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Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
Mon May 13, 2024, 09:50 AM May 2024

Does anyone trust the right-wing New York Times anymore?

Motherfucker in his morning press gaggle touted the rag's recent polls showing him ahead of President Biden in several states. I no longer trust my former hometown paper since its conversion to being a megaphone for said motherfucker.

Just before court today, Donald Trump touted the latest New York Times-Siena polling showing him ahead of President Biden
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Does anyone trust the right-wing New York Times anymore? (Original Post) Aviation Pro May 2024 OP
I haven't trusted them mercuryblues May 2024 #1
I havenot trusted them since judith miller and the other liar (forgot niyad May 2024 #2
Nope. Canceled my subscription Bettie May 2024 #3
Nope. Happy Hoosier May 2024 #4
They do have a history.. mountain grammy May 2024 #16
Wow... so apologetics for fascism is a tradfition! NT Happy Hoosier May 2024 #19
Indeed, but there were a few who never gave the maniac an inch mountain grammy May 2024 #22
Yup Lemon Lyman May 2024 #34
What's that...like a newspaper or something? Iggo May 2024 #5
Well, considering the NY Times didn't DO a poll... brooklynite May 2024 #6
RSO rso May 2024 #10
Ha! did you see the Philadelphia Inquirers coverage... Think. Again. May 2024 #17
Polls are used for propaganda gab13by13 May 2024 #7
Who is "they"? Silent3 May 2024 #35
Shot the messenger? n/t Jacson6 May 2024 #8
Not a messenger Aviation Pro May 2024 #9
No. MOMFUDSKI May 2024 #11
Saw that this AM bluestarone May 2024 #12
As much as any other non-infotainment news org. Jirel May 2024 #13
Now the NYT is right wing? former9thward May 2024 #14
Every publication is right wing Seeking Serenity May 2024 #23
Nope. Think. Again. May 2024 #15
Not since Judith Miller. Golden Raisin May 2024 #18
I haven't trusted the NY Times for decades RAB910 May 2024 #20
Nope Rebl2 May 2024 #21
The Times is not right-wing. ificandream May 2024 #24
Past performance does not reflect present day Aviation Pro May 2024 #25
And the KKK were Democrats in 1924 n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 May 2024 #30
Trust but verify the Times Flatrat May 2024 #26
It's still one of the best newspapers in the country bif May 2024 #27
I don't *trust* NYT any more than I trust any single news source. Ocelot II May 2024 #28
Their cooking section is good. FoxNewsSucks May 2024 #29
I totally trust that they are fake news. czarjak May 2024 #31
The NYT is trying to get TFG re-elected LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #32
NYT is a rag duckworth969 May 2024 #33

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
3. Nope. Canceled my subscription
Mon May 13, 2024, 09:55 AM
May 2024

a while ago.

Though, I'm sure a particular someone will be along to scold about this post before long.

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
4. Nope.
Mon May 13, 2024, 09:57 AM
May 2024

They believe they are entitled to a position of respect given the storied history of the paper. The plain truth is that they have embraced a "both sides" narrative and betrayed their mission.

mountain grammy

(29,035 posts)
22. Indeed, but there were a few who never gave the maniac an inch
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:57 AM
May 2024
Dorothy Thompson Expelled from Germany
August 26, 1934


https://newspapers.ushmm.org/events/dorothy-thompson-expelled-from-germany#:~:text=Dorothy%20Thompson%20was%20the%20first,met%20and%20interviewed%20Adolf%20Hitler.

Thompson worked for the New York Herald Tribune which no longer exists.
The New Yorker and Vanity Fair are two more publications who never published a "favorable" article about Hitler.

Lemon Lyman

(1,594 posts)
34. Yup
Tue May 14, 2024, 03:52 AM
May 2024

That and they're pissed PJB won't give them sit-downs. Also, they miss the chaos and book deals and want their ratings azzhole back.

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
5. What's that...like a newspaper or something?
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:03 AM
May 2024

I remember those from the twentieth century.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
6. Well, considering the NY Times didn't DO a poll...
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:04 AM
May 2024

As much as you may not like the Times, they don't do polling, rigged or otherwise. They commission polling from a reputable institution (in this case Siena College), which isn't in the business of rigging polls to help Republicans.

nb: this poll was co-sponsored by the Philadelphia Inquirer. Another right wing rag?

rso

(2,673 posts)
10. RSO
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:17 AM
May 2024

Except that polling in the last couple of years has consistently overestimated republicans and underestimated democrats, as demonstrated by special elections nationwide.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
17. Ha! did you see the Philadelphia Inquirers coverage...
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:32 AM
May 2024

...of the New Jersey trump rally?

gab13by13

(32,323 posts)
7. Polls are used for propaganda
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:05 AM
May 2024

I can guarantee they need to keep the polls close so that TSF can claim the election was rigged.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
35. Who is "they"?
Tue May 14, 2024, 04:16 AM
May 2024

And "they" are fudging the numbers across multiple polling organizations, without any employees, or students in the case of college-sponsored polls, catching on and spilling the beans?

This is up there with the same kind of conspiratorial thinking Republicans use to claim "Trump won" in 2020 for the implausibility of pulling it off.

bluestarone

(22,179 posts)
12. Saw that this AM
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:20 AM
May 2024

They are so full of shit. 10 points i some states. Total fucking lies (my thinking)

Jirel

(2,369 posts)
13. As much as any other non-infotainment news org.
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:25 AM
May 2024

I’m actually pretty tired of the “OMG, you can’t trust ______ any more” cries. We know what’s a tabloid infotainment/propaganda source (Faux, OAN, etc.) and what’s a news source that runs honestly. Newsflash: those respectable news sources are run by humans with different opinions, life experiences, and politics, and that is going to color choices in covering the news and what gets more attention. Big whoop. The answer is not to “trust” a specific source, but to sip from many. Some days a story on NYT will knock it out of the park. Sometimes BBC. Sometimes CNN. Sometimes Agence France. Sometimes Reuters. Some days they’ll all get it right, and others they’ll all get it wrong.

So what? We have never been able to “trust” a single news source in the entire history of humanity. So yes, I trust NYT as much as I trust any other often-reliable “real” news org, and I will be following up stories I see there with others from other decent sources. Somewhere in the mess the main thread of what happened comes into focus. That’s literally all you can expect.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
14. Now the NYT is right wing?
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:26 AM
May 2024

Before it was the WaPost is right wing. Is there any publication, anywhere, which is not "right wing"? Wow...

Seeking Serenity

(3,322 posts)
23. Every publication is right wing
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:59 AM
May 2024

Whenever it publishes information or opinions I don't like.

Simple as.

Golden Raisin

(4,755 posts)
18. Not since Judith Miller.
Mon May 13, 2024, 10:32 AM
May 2024

Still glance at the front page online as I'm a Manhattan resident and the Times is sort of my hometown paper.

Flatrat

(176 posts)
26. Trust but verify the Times
Mon May 13, 2024, 11:13 AM
May 2024

They still have good reporters.

Dont read the op eds, pure garbage/

Never trust the polls,especially this far out. They are nothing but headline fodder and clickbait

bif

(27,000 posts)
27. It's still one of the best newspapers in the country
Mon May 13, 2024, 11:15 AM
May 2024

We get it every Sunday and have for years.

Ocelot II

(130,537 posts)
28. I don't *trust* NYT any more than I trust any single news source.
Mon May 13, 2024, 11:19 AM
May 2024

It does have an infuriating tendency toward milquetoast bothsidering but I wouldn't call it right-wing. I would call it timid and often unwilling to stick its neck out. It does, however, have some excellent reporters and opinion writers, e.g., Jamelle Bouie, Michelle Goldberg, Paul Krugman and Charles Blow, plus a few that aren't so good, like Ross Douhat and the always-annoying Maureen Dowd. As with other media sources, I'll evaluate for myself which wing it is trying to fly with.

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