Secret Service notified as Trump aide brags about 'causing innocent people to be arrested'

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Secret Service notified as Trump aide brags about 'causing innocent people to be arrested'

David McAfee

May 12, 2024 9:14PM ET

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcentee-secret-service/

"SNIP...........

Donald Trump's former White House aide is under fire after a video showed him claiming to distribute fake money to homeless people so that they will be arrested when they spend it.

Johnny McEntee, formerly the White House Presidential Personnel Office under the former president, posted a video on TikTok in which he discusses the purported scheme to "clean up the community."

"So I always keep this fake Hollywood money in my car, so when a homeless person asks for money, and I give them like a $5 bill, I feel good about myself, they feel good," said McEntee, also a senior advisor to Project 2025. "And then when they go to use it, they get arrested, so I'm actually helping to clean up the community and get them off the street."

Law professor Orin Kerr responded to the video, "Causing innocent people to be arrested is good, according to Trump aide."

..........SNIP"

Applegrove:

Thanks to my cousin for the suggestion.


Here is video:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132222895

Applegrove:

After reading your responses I think this was performative to teach people, voters, to hate the poor. Psychopath teach their followers how to behave. It is part of grooming and giving them a vivid role in life so they finally have somewhere to belong (after years of being lost because the GOP gutted unions and government) and building an army of bullies.

[getagrip_already]

1. Yeah, what happens when you pay your dealer with counterfeit money?

Askin for a friend.

I'll bet it's not reported to the police though, at least not before they find your body again.

[True Blue American]

25. You go to jail?

[emulatorloo]

31. Google the legal definition of "unclean hands" if you get a chance.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. If he actually did it, the scheme was always going to trace back to him

because homeless people lack the expertise to counterfeit. Now he's given SS a leg up on the investigation.

[ProfessorGAC]

3. It Never Occurs To This Crowd...

...that might not get away with it. They're not that clever, but think they're the smart ones.
The consequences are never considered because they honestly they've outsmarted everyone.
The fact that this buffoon boasted about it online is proof of that

[Skittles]

42. dude was pandering to the cult

they often forget that kind of senseless cruelty does not appeal to others

[TheBlackAdder]

56. I was common that bank drive-thru tellers would pass fake bills back to customers.

Banks would often write-up or fire a teller if they accepted a fake bill because the bank has to eat that loss.

This pressured the tellers to just return the money through the drive-thru windows, because there is less chance that this fraud would be detected right away. Even then, it would be tough to prove the bank did it since the money leaves the view of the teller and bank cameras. They did not pull this in the lobby because if caught, they could not deny that a fake bill was given to a customer.

[Torchlight]

4. I'm thinking he made it up just to gain MAGA-cred

I can't see these guys interrupting their own self-absorbed existences for any one person that cannot immediately profit them, even for a reason as malignant as this hack asserts.

I doubt I'll go too wrong assuming every statement by every trumper is dishonest as well as cruel; and the few times I get it wrong, oh well, I can live with that.

[TexasBushwhacker]

10. Counterfeiters don't make $5 bills

They generally make $20s because that's what people get out of ATMs. It's easy to slip a bogus bill in with a stack that's fresh from the machine.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. He said "Hollywood money", meaning used in movies so it looks vaguely real. Still it is a crime

It is a crime to pass money as if it is real when it is not real.

"Homeless witness, did the Defendant give you the money?"

"Yes"

"Did you thank the Defendant, thinking it was real?"

"Yes"

I think it is not necessary for the defendant to get something in return for it to be a crime. (I'm not a lawyer, haven't read the law)

[markodochartaigh]

22. Of course in the real world

where 95% of people in prison didn't get a trial, the defendant would be told by their court-appointed attorney to take the plea deal, whatever it was.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

37. 95%? Is that made up? Source? What percent await trial? Include people who admitted guilt?

[markodochartaigh]

38. Here are some articles

In a criminal case, a plea bargain is an agreement between the prosecutor and an accused person in which the person facing charges is given the option to plead guilty to a lesser offense and, in doing so, avoid going to trial and facing a potentially harsher sentence. To date, more than 95% of felony convictions in the U.S. have been obtained through this method.


https://innocenceproject.org/coerced-pleas/

About 94 percent of felony convictions at the state level and about 97 percent at the federal level are the result of plea bargains

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/11/04/the-truth-about-trials

Guilty pleas account for about 95% of criminal convictions in state courts in the U.S., according to the U.S. Department of Justice. And in cases where a person was exonerated due to post-conviction DNA testing, almost 30% of people had falsely confessed to the crime, The Innocence Project reports.

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/03/12/as-innocent-people-often-plead-guilty-to-crimes-legislation-could-open-pathways-to-freedom/

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. Thank you! Good to know. . . . nt

[Solomon]

72. The system can't function without a high rate of guilty pleas. If everyone demanded a trial the system would break.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

5. This asshole needs to be arrested

[LiberalFighter]

6. He gave them monopoly money?

How would homeless people get arrested?

[Brother Buzz]

7. "Hollywood" prop money

On the surface, it looks genuine

[getagrip_already]

29. Not so much....

https://propmoney.com/collections/order-samples/products/all-denominations-new-series-prop-money-bills-mix

[Retrograde]

33. All the portraits look happier

than they do on the real bills! And of course there's the different issuing body

[SergeStorms]

43. I guess many people....

don't read other posts before posting.
I've seen the "prop" money many times in theater productions.
There's little chance anyone could mistake it for actual currency.

[Mopar151]

66. My friend the scrap dealer had a fake $100.

And it came from a big wholesale buyer!
Another was recently passed hereabouts at a seafood takeout.

[former9thward]

47. No it does not look genuine.

I have seen it and it looks fake. It only looks real on TV or a movie. No store would accept it.

[soldierant]

54. "No store would accept it" is the point.

He didn't wan t any stores to be fooled. Only the homeless - many of whom would not be homeless if they had been in a position to handle enough currency to catch the fine points.

[former9thward]

59. I will ask again, "Who has been arrested"?

The story comes up with no one. The homeless are not as naive as you think.

[soldierant]

75. As he thought.

However, statistically, many have been fooled by these. After all, who stares at money all day long? It is deliberately complex to make counterfeiting difficult, but for th average person that also makes it easy to miss details.

[PatSeg]

65. Until you really look at it

Hollywood money has clear markings indicating that it is not legal tender.

[Owens]

23. Counterfeit money is illegal

A homeless person would use it to buy something and then get arrested on the spot using counterfeit money

[getagrip_already]

27. Or if they were addicts and gave it to a dealer...

A lot worse.

[NanaCat]

34. You can get arrested for using counterfeit money

To make a purchase.

Contrary to what most people think, counterfeiters don't usually print up money for major purposes. What most of them do is plate up a bunch of smallish cash purchases to get real currency back. If you're careful and smart, you can amass a ton of real money that way.

Eventually, though, enough stores in one area will have a run of funny money showing up, and the feds will get involved. It's usually curtains for the counterfeiter after that, because nearly all of them make some dumb mistakes along the way.

[DiverDave]

35. Heard a story

When laser printers first came out, a Canadian guy rented one. Ran off a bunch of fakes. Returned the machine. Left a bunch inside the machine.
He was arrested.
I hope it's true.

[ProfessorGAC]

58. I'm Guessing There's Something To It

Perhaps not every detail, but there's a reason bills were changed in the 90s to have anti-counterfeitting features. (Micro printing & the plastic strip/filament).
1990 through 1996. Right around the time high resolution laser printers became readily available.

[yardwork]

68. George Floyd was murdered because he supposedly tried to pass a counterfeit bill.

I'm sure that thought is present in MAGA brains. Hating Black people is a big part of their daily lives.

[Midnight Writer]

9. They must really scrape the bottom of the barrel to find these evil, creepy people.

[MyOwnPeace]

14. Not tRump!

He hired ‘only the best!’

RECENT (as of 2021 - can’t keep up these days!) Administrations with MOST criminal indictments:

Trump (Republican) - 215
Nixon (Republican) - 76
Reagan (Republican) - 26

RECENT Administrations with the FEWEST criminal indictments:

Obama (Democrat) - 0
Carter (Democrat) - 1
Clinton(Democrat) - 2

‘nuff said?!?

[SomedayKindaLove]

51. Or as the Republicans like to call it

The Weaponization of the Justice Department

[edbermac]

11. Plugs an RW dating site on Instagram

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A smug little asshole with a face that’s just begging to be slapped

[progressoid]

12. " I feel good about myself,"

Always punching down to feel better. That's their MO.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Was McEntee in Minneapolis on May 25, 2020?

Bogel-Burroughs, Nicholas; Wright, Will (April 19, 2021). "Little has been said about the $20 bill that brought officers to the scene". The New York Times. Archived from the original on April 9, 2022. Retrieved August 9, 2022. "Nearly a year after Mr. Floyd's death, it remains unclear where the bill came from and whether Mr. Floyd committed the crime that brought police officers to the scene."

[MyOwnPeace]

16. Great catch!

Who wouldn’t be surprised?

[ShazzieB]

17. I hope he hasn't really done this to anyone.

But I'm so completely disgusted that he thinks this is funny that I couldn't think less of him if he did do it.

[DFW]

18. Ya gotta wonder about that counterfeiter story from 50+ years ago.

A group of counterfeiters had stolen all the proper cotton paper and ink, and had a master engraver to make the plates for the perfect $10 bills. The trouble was, the engraver was also an alkie to the third degree, and his cohorts had to makes sure he stayed off the sauce while he was working. They were successful up to a point.

Everything was going according to plan, but the engraver smuggled a bottle of Jim Beam into his studio as he was putting the last detail on his $10 bills--the denomination. Sure enough, his talent was unwavering, but in his drunken stupor, instead of engraving the number "10" and the words "Ten Dollars" he engraved the number "18" and the words "Eighteen Dollars." Unaware of this, the others fired up the presses and printed their bills. When they were done, they went to inspect their stash, and found they had printed themselves thousands of perfectly genuine-looking $18 bills.

Completely dejected, they wondered what they could do with them. One said, "all might not be lost. We'll just drive down south, through a few hundred hick towns, and spend them one by one. Those hillbillies will never know there's something wrong."

Figuring this was their only hope, they loaded the bills into a U-Haul and headed south. In some tucked-away one horse town in rural Alabama, they drove into the local gas station, saw am old man at the counter, and went up to him, respectfully asking, "excuse me, sir, would you be able to change an eighteen dollar bill for me?" The man looked up, smiled and said, "i sure can!" They rubbed their hands with glee until he asked them, "how would you like that, in sixes or in nines?"

[Mc Mike]

19. McEntee's entitled to do what he wants, he paid his dues.

As shilter's body man, he constantly had to wipe that copious orange derrier, when little donnie lost control of his bowels.

[Kid Berwyn]

40. Half Heydrich und Half Hess

Guy plans to make the federal bureaucracy to jump to attention.

Hope he gets locked up real soon.

[Mc Mike]

76. Agreed, 100%, Kid.

Lock that little asswipe up.

[erronis]

20. Doubt this is anything than spouting lies and steam.

They're all in this mode of just throwing words into the wind and then asking for donations.

Can't imagine what they were like as little brats.

[paleotn]

21. McEntee should really clean up the community.

by using one of the many firearms I'm sure he owns...on himself. That's really doing society a favor.

[Speaks2]

24. Secondary Effects

I haven't seen this.
Likely, the homeless person wouldn't be arrested. They deal with merchants who wouldn't catch it or would miss it in a small pile of the day's handouts.
The counterfeit nature wouldn't be revealed until its third (if it gets deposited) or more (if it's distributed as change on a future purchase) use.
IOW, the rationale ("clean streets" BS) doesn't even hold water.

[NanaCat]

36. They can be arrested thought

It happens when a clerk is suspicious and thorough. Some of them even have a spidey sense about funny money. Sort of like how Tim Linecum of the SF Giants knew when he got a baseball that wasn't quite right:

https://www.nbcsports.com/mlb/news/did-tim-lincecum-throw-out-a-juiced-ball-last-night

Funny... The Rockies became crap in the immediate aftermath of Tim calling them out for their 'juiced' balls. Which weren't juiced, technically. Let's say the Rockies were using baseballs stored in a way to hurt the visiting teams, and other baseballs stored in a way to benefit their own hitters, making them get more lift and go farther if they got a hit.

The point is that when you handle something all the time, your senses 'know' when something doesn't quite feel right.

[mn9driver]

26. Fascism is much admired in Trumpworld.

To them, innocent people going to jail is a feature, not a bug.

[Turbineguy]

28. Just the sort of scum that would be attracted to trump

Puts Cohen's recovery in more perspective.

[Chi67]

30. Wow

That is seriously shitty. Pretty sure that's not legal either.

[OMGWTF]

32. I recall a story about a woman who tried to cash a fake one million dollar bill at Walmart

and actually thought she could get away with it.

[BlueTsunami2018]

41. I'm guessing this is what passes for a "joke" on the right.

And everyone reporting him and being mad about it is being “owned”.

Than again, these people are really that mean and stupid. It could be real.

[Oneironaut]

50. This is quintessential Conservative humor.

They absolutely love punching down / picking on people who won’t fight back. They love and admire a bully. It’s also why they love Trump.

[Seinan Sensei]

44. Clean up the community?

Geez.
Why not give them tainted food?
Counterfeit money vs counterfeit food -- a difference only in degree, not in kind.
MAGATs' cruelty is their superpower
Assholes

[DemocraticPatriot]

45. It is my personal opinion that the SOB was actually LYING about this,

playing to the base (and VERY BASE) supporters....

but there could be unintended consequences even if it was a lie

[orange jar]

48. this.

there's no way in hell he actually gave homeless people fake cash. For one, Trumpers are scared of everyone and everything.

he's going to incite someone else to make homeless people's lives worse, though.

[RockRaven]

52. What's more likely: A) that known liars lie some more, or B) that known

lazy bullshitters do some very specific task.

Obviously A is more likely, imo.

[DemocraticPatriot]

55. Yup. "A"

[former9thward]

46. Has anyone been arrested for trying to use it?

I have seen Hollywood fake money and it is pretty fake. Maybe a step up from Monopoly money but no merchant would accept it. And it would not go through any machine. I think this is just a fake boast from some jerk.

[Martin68]

49. Total degenerate. And the Xians support him?

[dflprincess]

53. A reminder that police were called when George Floyd

Allegedly tried to use a counterfeit $20.

This ass has no idea or concern about the damage he could be doing.

[calimary]

57. Well, we certainly can tell who the lowlife is in this scenario.

[twodogsbarking]

60. Here's a tip. When you commit crimes don't post a video on the net.

[brooklynite]

62. Arguably not a crime.

If I handled you monopoly money, you couldn't claim I had counterfeited it.

[twodogsbarking]

63. Not a crime probably but still good advice, eh.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

61. Sick motherfucker

Like his boss he punches down.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

64. George Floyd was detained and ultimately murdered by police for passing a fake $20 bill.

Link to tweet

[dickthegrouch]

67. Shame he didn't give any campaign contributions to TFG.

Then there'd have been a *real* reason to lock him up

[WOLFMAN87]

69. Once again Repubs offer hate

Homeless is only the tip of their hate filled spear.
Add LGBT,
immigrants & foreigners in general,
women who don't know their place,
non Christians especially Muslims but Israelites are alright as long as the protect Jerusalem.
They've understood for a long time that hate & anger drive votes.

[IronLionZion]

70. George Floyd died for using a counterfeit $20 at a convenience store

WTF is wrong with these Republicans?



This is another reason many businesses like to go cashless. Because of BS like counterfeit bills, hollywood prop money, unsuspecting people who don't know they have these fake bills, etc. It's often low income or elderly people using cash. And the person arrested may be someone else who got the cash in some other transaction or trade. Cash can change hands several times before being checked for counterfeits.

[twodogsbarking]

73. Years ago I knew a banker who would go to the truckstop to instruct employee how to spot a fake twenty dollar bill.

The bank had been getting them in the truckstop's deposits. Weeks later he visited the truckstop and remarked that the bank
hadn't been getting fake 20's. The employess said, "well once you showed us how to spot them we give them back in change".
Problem solved.

[love_katz]

71. Building an army of bullies.

Perfect description of MAGAts. Stupid flunkeys who worship Orange Foolius and will happily take the fall for his directives.

[Dave Bowman]

74. What a mean pathetic little man.

People who make others suffer to get some pleasure out of it should seek professional help asap.