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PCIntern

(25,491 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:54 PM Nov 2012

I know EXACTLY why the Rethugs have pulled this Rice business...

but if I post it, all the anti-conspiracy folk here are going to come out, demand that the thread be locked, tell me to go to Creative Speculation, etc.

They are trying to forestall and divert from the TRUTH...and you know what? The truth will set you free, but first it will make you very miserable.

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I know EXACTLY why the Rethugs have pulled this Rice business... (Original Post) PCIntern Nov 2012 OP
Why? DURHAM D Nov 2012 #1
Does it have anything to do with the designated hitter rule? Bok_Tukalo Nov 2012 #2
No, Carlos Ruiz' suspension nt PCIntern Nov 2012 #9
Maybe it's reverse psychology to entice Obama into nominating an interventionist hawk. dkf Nov 2012 #3
They want to impeach Obama and they're laying the groundwork x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #4
Most all politics is a conspiracy...local, national, global...to one extent or other. libdem4life Nov 2012 #5
Exactly. How is it people can't believe other people can hatch a plan and keep it a secret? siligut Nov 2012 #8
There is very little coordination going on with this Benghazi business. Some, sure, but not much. randome Nov 2012 #6
If I can add to the mix. My thought is they want Sen. Kerry named life long demo Nov 2012 #7
It's much bigger than all that... PCIntern Nov 2012 #10
oops...didn't see this before posting. Going beyond the political futures of Americans? libdem4life Nov 2012 #14
Let me guess FarCenter Nov 2012 #15
I like that! PCIntern Nov 2012 #18
Anything significantly different than the run of the mill ones we have going? libdem4life Nov 2012 #11
Look up two posts... nt PCIntern Nov 2012 #12
Can you PM me your theory I seem to be missing it and I am genuinely interested? Agschmid Nov 2012 #13
There is a connection between the Rethug campaign and the Benghazi mess PCIntern Nov 2012 #19
Same with me. libdem4life Nov 2012 #20
I've heard some interesting theories from ecstatic Nov 2012 #16
Can you please PM me these. I am genuinely interested in knowing what you are referring to. Agschmid Nov 2012 #21
Toddler Negotiation Tactic... Evasporque Nov 2012 #17
Aw comeon PCIntern. Give it to us straight. Solomon Nov 2012 #22
I may be wrong, but I think the outline is LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #24
Okay so the election is over, we won. Agschmid Nov 2012 #25
To keep us all from finding out? LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #27
Ed Zachary! nt PCIntern Nov 2012 #29
I gave this a thought from day one malaise Nov 2012 #31
Part of this is about John Kerry. They are all willing to endorse Kerry for SOS. Jennicut Nov 2012 #23
That's pure dog and pony show. They know Rice is far more hawkish than Kerry. blm Nov 2012 #28
I think President Obama wanted Rice to begin with, though Kerry has been lobbying for the job Jennicut Nov 2012 #30
Kerry has NOT been 'lobbying for the job'. That's corpmedia repeating planted talking points. blm Nov 2012 #32
Hint, please? Does it have anything to do with... dchill Nov 2012 #26
 

x2 vancouverite

(89 posts)
4. They want to impeach Obama and they're laying the groundwork
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:00 PM
Nov 2012

Same shit as with Bill Clinton: They couldn't keep him from getting reelected, so they spent the fall of '98 making a mockery of the Constitution by putting on a circus. Now they're getting ready for Act II.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
5. Most all politics is a conspiracy...local, national, global...to one extent or other.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:02 PM
Nov 2012

As I understand conspiracy, it is a small power group making decisions surreptitiously for or against a larger group...that primarily benefit the smaller group at the expense of the larger group.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
8. Exactly. How is it people can't believe other people can hatch a plan and keep it a secret?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:13 PM
Nov 2012

It does take giving up ones illusions, but one would think those who follow politics would have already done that.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. There is very little coordination going on with this Benghazi business. Some, sure, but not much.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:08 PM
Nov 2012

It's just a relative handful of old, white men flailing about trying to maintain their relevance. There isn't much logic or strategy to it, IMO. It's 'fashionable' to be an old, white man against Rice.

On edit: okay, so Susan Collins is against her, as well. But, again, I don't see strategy, I see flailing.

life long demo

(1,113 posts)
7. If I can add to the mix. My thought is they want Sen. Kerry named
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:11 PM
Nov 2012

SOS, Kerry gives up his senate seat in Mass., then Scott Brown runs for Kerry's senate seat. Maybe yes, maybe no.

PCIntern

(25,491 posts)
10. It's much bigger than all that...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:33 PM
Nov 2012

it has to do with the TRUTH of Benghazi and its root causes. They DARE not have this exposed. That's why they brought out what is left of their 'big guns', such as they are.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
14. oops...didn't see this before posting. Going beyond the political futures of Americans?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:37 PM
Nov 2012

More into foreign intrigue?

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
15. Let me guess
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:42 PM
Nov 2012

CIA and DoD SOC were running a major operation in Libya to collect and ship arms and Salafist fighters to Syria.

The Benghazi attackers obtained enough information in the CIA safe house to roll up the operation.

The four casualties at the embassy were only the tip of the iceberg, with a large number of hired Libyans, contractors from various places, and a number of SOC operators also killed and the rest fled the country. There may even have been information about other operations in North Africa and operations by US allies, especially the UK and Israel, that was also compromised.

It was a major defeat for US secret operations.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
13. Can you PM me your theory I seem to be missing it and I am genuinely interested?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:36 PM
Nov 2012

Does it have anything to do with succession?

PCIntern

(25,491 posts)
19. There is a connection between the Rethug campaign and the Benghazi mess
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

what it is, I don't know...but it's there, so help me.

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
16. I've heard some interesting theories from
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:44 PM
Nov 2012

people about Benghazi, which I know I'd never be able to post here (because of my sources). Hint: The real culprits are not in Egypt.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
21. Can you please PM me these. I am genuinely interested in knowing what you are referring to.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:00 PM
Nov 2012

Everyone keeps mentioning theories and I'd like to hear them.

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
17. Toddler Negotiation Tactic...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:46 PM
Nov 2012

Keep screaming harder to get what you want for something completely unrelated...

Obama should not negotiate with toddlers.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
24. I may be wrong, but I think the outline is
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:12 PM
Nov 2012

that the Benghazi attack was fomented by Republican-backed CIA forces in an attempt to embarrass Obama on the eve of the election. It isn't outside of the realm of possibilities, but is entirely not provable.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
25. Okay so the election is over, we won.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:26 PM
Nov 2012

Why is this still going on then, you can't really embarrass a guy who never has to run again, and even if they were going the impeachments angle, 3... possibly 4 senators can't make that happen alone. Long term this is bad for those 4 senators since they are ignoring the fiscal bump. Also the people who are damaged by CIA/Ghazigate have been repubs so far.

Further up the post someone mentioned "Flailing" and I feel like this is exactly what is now going on. They are just trying to get the populous to bite on some issue and so far it's not working.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
27. To keep us all from finding out?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:36 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know, I'm not a subscriber to the many theories.

I am of the mind that this is the first weakness that this administration has shown that is even close to exploitable, so they are trying to exploit, first to win the election and now in an effort to weaken the President after an impressive victory. With McCain, I think it's personal.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
23. Part of this is about John Kerry. They are all willing to endorse Kerry for SOS.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:08 PM
Nov 2012

They want him out of that seat badly. However, he still may leave anyway to take Sec of Defense. Really kind of stupid.
The crap with Rice is really ridiculous since she did not have to give up classified info to begin with.

blm

(113,019 posts)
28. That's pure dog and pony show. They know Rice is far more hawkish than Kerry.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:04 PM
Nov 2012

They now have Obama cornered and have the Dems circling the wagons for Rice and the left media manipulated into going along and even smearing Kerry as an added bonus.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
30. I think President Obama wanted Rice to begin with, though Kerry has been lobbying for the job
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:00 PM
Nov 2012

as well. The speculation as to who would become the next SOS started before Benghazi ever happened. And Obama was pretty high on her then too.

blm

(113,019 posts)
32. Kerry has NOT been 'lobbying for the job'. That's corpmedia repeating planted talking points.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:51 AM
Nov 2012

Anyone who believes this group of Republicans are being honest needs to have their heads examined.

dchill

(38,451 posts)
26. Hint, please? Does it have anything to do with...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:33 PM
Nov 2012

The meeting between McCain, Graham and Qaddafi in
Libya? My money is there...

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