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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI know EXACTLY why the Rethugs have pulled this Rice business...
but if I post it, all the anti-conspiracy folk here are going to come out, demand that the thread be locked, tell me to go to Creative Speculation, etc.
They are trying to forestall and divert from the TRUTH...and you know what? The truth will set you free, but first it will make you very miserable.
DURHAM D
(32,607 posts)Bok_Tukalo
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PCIntern
(25,491 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)x2 vancouverite
(89 posts)Same shit as with Bill Clinton: They couldn't keep him from getting reelected, so they spent the fall of '98 making a mockery of the Constitution by putting on a circus. Now they're getting ready for Act II.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)As I understand conspiracy, it is a small power group making decisions surreptitiously for or against a larger group...that primarily benefit the smaller group at the expense of the larger group.
siligut
(12,272 posts)It does take giving up ones illusions, but one would think those who follow politics would have already done that.
randome
(34,845 posts)It's just a relative handful of old, white men flailing about trying to maintain their relevance. There isn't much logic or strategy to it, IMO. It's 'fashionable' to be an old, white man against Rice.
On edit: okay, so Susan Collins is against her, as well. But, again, I don't see strategy, I see flailing.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)SOS, Kerry gives up his senate seat in Mass., then Scott Brown runs for Kerry's senate seat. Maybe yes, maybe no.
PCIntern
(25,491 posts)it has to do with the TRUTH of Benghazi and its root causes. They DARE not have this exposed. That's why they brought out what is left of their 'big guns', such as they are.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)More into foreign intrigue?
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)CIA and DoD SOC were running a major operation in Libya to collect and ship arms and Salafist fighters to Syria.
The Benghazi attackers obtained enough information in the CIA safe house to roll up the operation.
The four casualties at the embassy were only the tip of the iceberg, with a large number of hired Libyans, contractors from various places, and a number of SOC operators also killed and the rest fled the country. There may even have been information about other operations in North Africa and operations by US allies, especially the UK and Israel, that was also compromised.
It was a major defeat for US secret operations.
PCIntern
(25,491 posts)Good for an episode of MI-5 on BBC...
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)PCIntern
(25,491 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Does it have anything to do with succession?
PCIntern
(25,491 posts)what it is, I don't know...but it's there, so help me.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)ecstatic
(32,653 posts)people about Benghazi, which I know I'd never be able to post here (because of my sources). Hint: The real culprits are not in Egypt.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Everyone keeps mentioning theories and I'd like to hear them.
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)Keep screaming harder to get what you want for something completely unrelated...
Obama should not negotiate with toddlers.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)Just put your flack jacket on and shoot.
We wanna know.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)that the Benghazi attack was fomented by Republican-backed CIA forces in an attempt to embarrass Obama on the eve of the election. It isn't outside of the realm of possibilities, but is entirely not provable.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Why is this still going on then, you can't really embarrass a guy who never has to run again, and even if they were going the impeachments angle, 3... possibly 4 senators can't make that happen alone. Long term this is bad for those 4 senators since they are ignoring the fiscal bump. Also the people who are damaged by CIA/Ghazigate have been repubs so far.
Further up the post someone mentioned "Flailing" and I feel like this is exactly what is now going on. They are just trying to get the populous to bite on some issue and so far it's not working.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)I don't know, I'm not a subscriber to the many theories.
I am of the mind that this is the first weakness that this administration has shown that is even close to exploitable, so they are trying to exploit, first to win the election and now in an effort to weaken the President after an impressive victory. With McCain, I think it's personal.
PCIntern
(25,491 posts)malaise
(268,724 posts)It was just too neat - Obama's 9/11 my black ass.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)They want him out of that seat badly. However, he still may leave anyway to take Sec of Defense. Really kind of stupid.
The crap with Rice is really ridiculous since she did not have to give up classified info to begin with.
blm
(113,019 posts)They now have Obama cornered and have the Dems circling the wagons for Rice and the left media manipulated into going along and even smearing Kerry as an added bonus.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)as well. The speculation as to who would become the next SOS started before Benghazi ever happened. And Obama was pretty high on her then too.
blm
(113,019 posts)Anyone who believes this group of Republicans are being honest needs to have their heads examined.
dchill
(38,451 posts)The meeting between McCain, Graham and Qaddafi in
Libya? My money is there...