Why aren't these speeches against

[EndlessWire]

Judge Merchan's daughter and the witness Cohen blatant violations of the gag order? And these are from Congress Critters summoned by the criminal Trump. It is so obvious what Trump is doing. I don't know why Trump isn't sent to lockup. It was shocking to see those people standing there making speeches against the trial process. They are against the rule of law. Where on G-d's green earth did these traitors come from?

It is disgusting and shameful what Johnson is doing. Utterly disgraceful. It is hard to believe that all of them do not privately think that he is guilty. Fortunately, we have 12 people to make that decision, and we don't need the Congressional Sycophants down there trying to defeat the way our courts work. The utter disrespect they are showing is just cringeworthy, and calls into question how their very brains work. They can never change those images. They're stuck with what we saw.

Gawd, I hope those jurors are tough and uncompromising as they weigh the evidence. Donald better stop trying to run the show and let his lawyers put up a defense. So far I don't see one. His defense consists of standing at the Courtroom door and demeaning the Court, the witnesses, and whoever pops into his head. He must feel his freedom slipping, because his rat weasels in the Congress have rushed down to speak for him when no other defense is appearing after the facts.

Michael Cohen isn't my cup of tea, but I appreciate his testimony and think that there's not much Trump can do about the truth. And, there it is, a class E felony which is on the books and is not made up. It is pretty plain what it says is a crime. Trump's claim that somebody else did it and he didn't know doesn't pass muster. It's one of those basic tenets of the law that your personal ignorance of what is a crime doesn't matter. You did it, it's your ultimate fault, so get ready for the mantle of felony.

I think the judge needs to act. Not sure what he can do, except maybe order the broadcasts to occur on the next block. But, something.

[orange jar]

1. Johnson sucks.

But what he's doing isn't criminal. It would be a violation of the order if Trump was the one giving speeches, but he isn't.

Even though we, understandably, see it as Johnson et al. speaking on behalf of Trump, a courtroom is a very different audience and there probably wouldn't be sufficient reasoning to use the law against Johnson… at least for the time being.

edit: typo

[EndlessWire]

2. Well

maybe the Dems won't be so quick to pledge to save his ass when he next needs to run from Marge. He's disgusting.

[orange jar]

3. Agreed.

Dems shouldn't save him, imo. He'd just stab us in the back.

[Lars39]

4. "...or directing others..."

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24514876-ny-v-trump-merchan-gag-order-20240326

[Irish_Dem]

5. 100% certain they know Trump is guilty as sin.

They simply don't care.

Their gods are money and power.
They will do anything to get them.

[onenote]

6. What do you expect the judge to do? The prosecution hasn't filed a motion accusing Trump of directing the comments

And I'll be surprised if they do. It would simply take up time from the ongoing trial since it would require a separate hearing and the chances that the judge could find "beyond a reasonable doubt" that Trump directed the comments are slim and none given that there is no evidence to support that conclusion and Trump and/or those making the comments could testify that there was no direction from Trump.

[EndlessWire]

8. That's why I said

"Not sure what he can do, except maybe order the broadcasts to occur on the next block. But, something."

I posted because I am supremely frustrated. I'm on the Judge's side. I've said so all along. It's not a matter of what I want so much as I was looking for comments on what he could do, if anything. Thank you for your comment.

I don't know if he has to allow Trump to hold his own court outside of the Judge's courtroom. Maybe he doesn't? How much can he control of the physical courtroom?

Here's a link to a pdf from the UNC School of Government, 2012. A little dated.

https://www.sog.unc.edu/sites/default/files/additional_files/Free%20speech%20rights%20in%20courthouses%20Nov%2012.pdf

It says that the Courtroom and Lobbies, etc, are nonpublic forums. Likewise, a parking lot next to the Court is or could be considered nonpublic. But, the streets in front of the Courthouse are public forums areas, unless there exists a law which changes that. Maybe they would need a permit? Maybe this jurisdiction has a law?

This trial is almost over. It went stunningly fast. But, other trials will come up, and Trump will famously repeat his bad behavior. So, it would be good to know.

I think that Judge Merchan can order the area outside of the Courtroom doors to be kept cleared without infringing on Free Speech rights. There are many, many people clogging up that area, and purely because it is a nonpublic area, he could do that. You probable heard that little wimp Johnson mention that they won't allow them to comment inside the Courthouse. Why is Trump allowed to do so?

I'm just saying, if the Judge wants to react, he could do that. I don't think that Trump can yet claim that area. Judge doesn't need to wait for a Prosecutor; it's his Courtroom. Even if Trump wants to complain, it will be too late pretty quick here. The Judge has power.

This trial is OUR trial. Power to the People.

[Zeitghost]

7. The gag order does not effect anyone not involved in the case

They still retain their right to free speech and give their opinion on the case, just as you or I can.

[EndlessWire]

10. In general, yes

but there are areas that are considered nonpublic, where they cannot just set up a press conference. I'd make them move back as far as legally possible. It just depends on what their law says.

As stated above, I'd make an order to clear the area outside the Courtroom based on whatever would fly (fire regulations, safety, whatever) and prevent Trump from spewing forth his poison. Protecting the jury and courtroom personnel is paramount.

[brooklynite]

9. Answer: they're not made by the Defendant.

You can say accusatory things about Trump, and that's not presumed to be prejudicial because you're not a Party in the case. Neither is Eric, Don Jr or any of the Republican Legislators.