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Media Matters For America delivers a bombshell analysis of news coverage and how its missing from Trump's offer to prostitute himself and the Constitution.

National TV news, with the exception of MSNBC, failed to cover Trump's scandalous Big Oil proposition
Nearly 40% of all TV news coverage appeared on Ali Velshis program
WRITTEN BY ALLISON FISHER
Media Matters For America, 05/14/24
On May 9, The Washington Post published an exclusive story on a dinner at Mar-A-Lago in which former President Donald Trump promised to reverse President Joe Biden's actions on climate change as he asked oil executives to raise $1 billion for his presidential campaign, assuring them that they'd be getting a deal due to the taxation and regulation they would avoid thanks to him.
Subsequently, Reuters, The New York Times, Politico, and The Atlantic, among other digital news sites, covered the new revelation, which The Atlantics David A. Graham acknowledged may not have been illegal, but described as undeniably scandalous. The Philadelphia Inquirers Will Bunch posted on X (formerly known as Twitter), You won't read a more important story today.
Unfortunately, over a four-day period, TV news broadcast and cable networks with the exception of MSNBC did not cover Trumps proposition to oil executives. From May 9 through May 12, MSNBC spent 48 minutes discussing Trumps proposition to Big Oil, with nearly 40% of the coverage airing on Velshi.
Big Oil and industry allies have already poured millions of dollars into Trump's joint fundraising committee to help cover his legal fees, all the while also drafting their wish list for his day one agenda, including ready-to-sign executive orders, according to Politico. Now, with this new revelation from The Washington Post, it appears the price has been set for getting the oil industrys wish list done, making it even clearer whats at stake for the climate in the outcome of the 2024 election.
SNIP...
During the May 10 edition of All In with Chris Hayes, host Chris Hayes interviewed New York Times climate reporter Lisa Friedman about Trumps proposition to Big Oil, which he pointed out was not prosecutable under current law, but in common parlance
is a political quid pro quo.
CONTINUES...
https://www.mediamatters.org/msnbc/national-tv-news-exception-msnbc-failed-cover-trumps-scandalous-big-oil-proposition
The truth hurts as Corporate McPravda wants to keep the fascist boot on our faces for ever.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)It's like that time in 2016 where every news organization had the story Putin was helping Team Trump, but they decided to go with the story about Hillary's email server.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)GreenWave
(12,140 posts)A pollster last night on MSNBC said that the polling done by NYT et alia disproportionate;y excludes too many African Americans and Latinos.
Jakes Progress
(11,213 posts)NanaCat
(2,332 posts)FBaggins
(28,612 posts)Its useful rhetorically, but there is no there there.
It cant be a quid pro quo if the politician isnt offering to change his stance on something in exchange for something else. Saying (effectively) this is what Ill do if elected - so you should support me doesnt come close.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)And it was journalists from Media Matters For America who explained the WOGAS -- Who Gives A Shit? -- for the nation:
" (Trump) is basically saying he's going to destroy the planet that our children... are growing up on just if these guys will write him a check." -- Ben Rhodes, former National Security Advisor to President Obama
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)But apparently you don't consider dozens of newspaper articles to be "mainstream" because you don't read or something.
Keep up the conspiracy theories though.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)So please show where all the coverage is on television.
PS: Really appreciate you working in the conspiracy theory smear.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)And you're the one pedaling the idea that it wasn't reported to benefit TFG.
That's a conspiracy theory.
And also false.
But keep trying.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)No conspiracy. Just fact.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)And it contradicts your headline:
"Mainstream Media Refused to Report Trump's Bombshell Quid Pro Quo Offer to Big Oil Execs"
Sorry you don't understand what "mainstream media", "broke a story" and "refused to report" mean.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Nearly 40% of all TV news coverage appeared on Ali Velshis program
WRITTEN BY ALLISON FISHER
Media Matters For America, 05/14/24
On May 9, The Washington Post published an exclusive story on a dinner at Mar-A-Lago in which former President Donald Trump promised to reverse President Joe Biden's actions on climate change as he asked oil executives to raise $1 billion for his presidential campaign, assuring them that they'd be getting a deal due to the taxation and regulation they would avoid thanks to him.
Subsequently, Reuters, The New York Times, Politico, and The Atlantic, among other digital news sites, covered the new revelation, which The Atlantics David A. Graham acknowledged may not have been illegal, but described as undeniably scandalous. The Philadelphia Inquirers Will Bunch posted on X (formerly known as Twitter), You won't read a more important story today.
Unfortunately, over a four-day period, TV news broadcast and cable networks with the exception of MSNBC did not cover Trumps proposition to oil executives. From May 9 through May 12, MSNBC spent 48 minutes discussing Trumps proposition to Big Oil, with nearly 40% of the coverage airing on Velshi.
Big Oil and industry allies have already poured millions of dollars into Trump's joint fundraising committee to help cover his legal fees, all the while also drafting their wish list for his day one agenda, including ready-to-sign executive orders, according to Politico. Now, with this new revelation from The Washington Post, it appears the price has been set for getting the oil industrys wish list done, making it even clearer whats at stake for the climate in the outcome of the 2024 election.
SNIP...
During the May 10 edition of All In with Chris Hayes, host Chris Hayes interviewed New York Times climate reporter Lisa Friedman about Trumps proposition to Big Oil, which he pointed out was not prosecutable under current law, but in common parlance is a political quid pro quo.
CONTINUES...
https://www.mediamatters.org/msnbc/national-tv-news-exception-msnbc-failed-cover-trumps-scandalous-big-oil-proposition
PS: So if you don't like my title, write your own OP.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)You wrote a blatantly innacurate title.
Refuse to acknowledge it's wrong.
Refuse to acknowledge that in fact the media was all over this story when it happened.
Refuse to change the title.
Accuse others of not reading your title/post (hint, I did - otherwise I wouldn't know that what you wrote was bullshit)
Then say I should write an OP to correct your mistakes.
Gotcha, yoou have no responsibility for spreading misinformation and peddling conspiracy theories.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)"Gotcha, yoou have no responsibility for spreading misinformation and peddling conspiracy theories."
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Odd hill to die on. Especially for someone who professes to care so much about newspapers. But keep on kicking the thread that shows your willful ignorance.
It's a strange thing that you value defending your attacks on print media rather than editing your title to say "television stations have ignored this story" (which also isn't true, but is at least closer than "mainstream media is ignoring this".
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Posters on this thread have pointed to some YouTube videos from cable shows, but apart from that, where are the clips and articles from NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN or Fox?
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Real news reporting is suspect. You need propaganda from people you hold in contempt.
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FBaggins
(28,612 posts)The mainstream media covered the news - they just didn't spin it as an illegal quid pro quo.
Because it isn't.
CrispyQ
(40,567 posts)Remind people that Donald Trump & the Republican Party have no plan to do anything about global warming.
Every negative thing this guy says should be reported on. The media gives him a pass. The justice system gives him a pass. If we're not careful we'll be stuck with this fucker until he dies.
Botany
(76,152 posts)
and in making trillions as the planets ecosystems collapse so be it. Lets be honest
Trump was asking for a billion dollar bribe so he can if he gets back into office we can
all watch the slugs of salt water from raising oceans work their way upstream in the
Mississippi River from the Gulf of Mexico or floods inland killing hundreds of acres of
cedar forests in New Jersey.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)That's the story when it comes to the Black Gold and mineral extraction. The latest I can find on petrodollars from SA working media magic on the minds of 'Merka is from 2022:
Saudi Arabia ramped up U.S. influence operations during Bidens presidency
By Taylor Giorno and Anna Massoglia
Open Secrets, October 7, 2022
Saudi Arabia ramped up spending on foreign lobbying and influence campaigns targeting the U.S. during the first year of President Joe Bidens administration, an OpenSecrets analysis of Foreign Agents Registration Act filings found.
The kingdom spent tens of millions of dollars since January 2021 to build up power on the international stage and clean up its image amid mounting allegations of human rights abuses and heightened tensions around oil and arms sales.
During the first year of the Biden administration, Saudi foreign agents disclosed more than $25 million in payments for foreign influence operations and lobbying targeting the United States. That exceeds any prior year other than the unprecedented sum of about $39 million it spent in 2018, the bulk of which came as foreign agents worked to rehabilitate Saudi Arabias image in the weeks after Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed at Saudi Arabias consulate in Turkey on Oct. 2, 2018.
Saudi interests have spent over $142 million on lobbying and influence operations in the U.S. since 2016, and foreign agents have already reported millions in 2022 payments.
SOURCE: https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/10/saudi-arabia-ramped-up-foreign-influence-operations-in-the-us-during-bidens-presidency/
And thanks to old-soaked, spy-riddled monopoly press, We the People are left to wonder who always puts the brakes on electric cars and renewable energy.
Botany
(76,152 posts)In Ohio our Governor signed a bill that recognized natural gas from fracking as green
energy even though it creates methane and CO 2 which are powerful greenhouse gases.
America and the World needs to end the fossil fuel industries grip on the power to create
a media and governments that will do its bidding.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,605 posts)so they dont want to annoy one of their best customers.
All the news our advertisers say its ok to print
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)A study found that five of the major oil companies - ExxonMobil, Shell plc, Chevron Corporation, BP plc, and ConocoPhillips Company - spent nearly $3.6 billion combined on advertising between 1986 and 2015, trying to clean up their appearance. Notably, higher years of spending matched up with years of congressional activity on climate change and high media coverage of the issue.
Source: https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/big-oil-trying-sell-false-narrative-about-its-sustainability#:~:text=A%20study%20found%20that%20five,to%20clean%20up%20their%20appearance.
---==---
Corporate promotion and climate change: an analysis of key variables affecting advertising spending by major oil corporations, 19862015
Abstract and Figures
Advertising by fossil fuel companies is a ubiquitous element of modern political life. Promotional campaigns in the service of a corporations position toward environmental issues such as climate change are prevalent in the oil and gas sectors, where corporate image is seen as a valuable asset in managing risk, controlling negative media attention, and overcoming resistance by antagonistic civil society groups. This article assesses advertising expenditures by five major oil and gasoline companies for the time period 1986 to 2015. We examine four major factors that may influence spending on advertising by the oil and gas sectors: (1) the overall reputation of the oil and gas sector; (2) congressional attention to climate change; (3) media attention to climate change; and (4) a series of control variables including major oil spills, the publication of major climate change reports, overall public concern about climate change, GDP, and oil prices. We find that the factors that most influence corporate promotional spending are media coverage and congressional attention to the issue of climate change.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert-Brulle-2/publication/337909380/figure/fig1/AS
41575693680686@1601500547933/Corporate-promotion-spending-by-major-oil-corporations-1986-2015-in-constant-2015.png
Source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337909380_Corporate_promotion_and_climate_change_an_analysis_of_key_variables_affecting_advertising_spending_by_major_oil_corporations_1986-2015
jalan48
(14,914 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)I wonder if the framers of the Constitution thought that?
I don't think so, going by the First Amendment, which calls by name the only business mentioned in the entire Constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Everyone who believes in democracy should understand how that applies to our current situation, where the Supreme Court has ruled that money is speech, giving the wealthy and their corporations a helluva lot more power than the average citizen.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)CrispyQ
(40,567 posts)Slavery is the fiction that people are property;
corporate personhood is the fiction that corporations are people.
That's somewhere on their site. No other paper entity has personhood rights. Not civics groups, not labor unions, no other artificial entity has personhood rights.
Here's a timeline of human personhood rights vs corporate personhood rights, when we get them, when we get them taken away.
https://reclaimdemocracy.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/personhood_timeline.pdf
At the very least we need to go back to stakeholder rights not shareholder rights.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)What have you done to advance the cause of journalism, AZSkiffyGeek?
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)I was laid off because people decided that getting news for free was better than paying for it. People who share archive links and tell others to use VPNs so they can avoid paying for their news.
So yeah, I have done plenty to advance the cause of journalism.
As a reporter for a daily newspaper, I'd think you'd know how to do a tiny bit of research to see that the headline you put on your post was false. But for someone who worked as a staff writer, apparently you don't value newspapers or consider them valid, otherwise you wouldn't have claimed that mainstream media wasn't covering a story that was BROKEN by one of the biggest mainstream media outlets in the country.
hay rick
(9,284 posts)MSNBC has been praised for reporting the story, but in fairness, they spent more time that weekend speculating about if Michael Cohen was going to testify on Monday. Collectively, American media consistently "fails" in ways that serve the care and feeding of oligarchy.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)The rest of the cable news pretty much ignored the story. The print media covered it, to a degree. However, to get millions of people aware of a news story, requires the participation of ABCNNBCBSFoxNoise.
Let me ask those who doubt that:
Do you subscribe to a daily newspaper?
If so, did your newspaper report that Trump asked representatives of Big Oil for a billion dollars and on what page did it run?
Have you discussed, or heard the report discussed, with your family, neighbors and associates at work and in the community?
dchill
(42,660 posts)Completely discredited.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Finding our way out of the post-truth era
BY WILLIAM S. BECKER, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR
The Hill - 04/01/23
Thomas Jefferson repeatedly wrote that democracy depends on a well-informed citizenry. He called it the best defense against tyranny. Moreover, he believed that if democracies go off the rails, well-informed citizens may be relied on to set them to rights.
Unfortunately, many Americans are well-duped rather than well-informed today, and millions of citizens, apparently, are okay with that.
SNIP...
We have entered the post-truth era. Truth and facts have been devalued even at the highest levels of government. Former President Donald Trump made more than 30,500 false or misleading statements during his time in office and continued his Big Lie about the 2020 election after he left. His followers demonstrated how dangerous lies can be. The Jan. 6 insurrection resulted in 1,000 assaults on federal officers and police, injuries to more than 130, as well as the deaths of five others in the following days, including four by suicide. Afterward, Trump called the rioters great patriots.
SNIP...
So, what can we do? First, we must restore transparency and responsibility as fundamental to our social contract. This deserves attention from Congress, think tanks, educational institutions, foundations and a presidential commission. The goal is to defend truth and facts without violating the First Amendment. For example:
* Should the developers of technologies like fakeware be required to include features to prevent misuse? For example, manufactured images and vocalizations could include a disclaimer identifying them as fake. Images and vocalizations without that disclaimer would be subject to prosecution as identity theft.
* Should art and writings mainly produced by AI be clearly identified so they cannot be copyrighted or claimed as human creations?
* Should social media reject anonymous postings so abusive users are identified and held accountable? Could AI help trace the origins of false and abusive speech more quickly? The First Amendment does not protect fraud, defamation, death threats, fighting words or speech integral to imminent lawless action. Perhaps social media could extend its standards to bar speech thats racist, sexist, antigay, bullying, meant to terrorize or to express hostility to a religion, plus any content that compromises national security or violates the privacy rights established by Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution.
* Should we reconsider the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) roles in policing fake news?
CONTINUED...
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3928988-finding-our-way-out-of-the-post-truth-era/
Where does all the disinformation lead? Chaos. And we know who loves to see the United States in chaos.
liberalgunwilltravel
(1,044 posts)It was front page news on the Washington Post.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)From the OP:
National TV news, with the exception of MSNBC, failed to cover Trump's scandalous Big Oil proposition
Nearly 40% of all TV news coverage appeared on Ali Velshis program
https://www.mediamatters.org/msnbc/national-tv-news-exception-msnbc-failed-cover-trumps-scandalous-big-oil-proposition
The story was largely ignored by NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and Fox News -- in both their broadcast news programs and on their cable subsidiaries' news shows.
As for the major national newspapers, are they still pursuing the story? I just ran a search on Google news: "trump oil billion." Most of the print press returns are from a week back. The latest in the Washington Post was about a possible Democratic inquiry into Trump's meeting with the Big Oil execs from two days back.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/05/14/trump-oil-executives-investigation-democrats/
But on TV? Still waiting.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)But then any time someone whines that "mainstream media is ignoring this!", you can go on Google and find dozens of articles from mainstream media about the story.
mahatmakanejeeves
(67,899 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)About 5-percent of Americans prefer to get their news from print media.
SOURCE: https://www.prdaily.com/where-americans-get-their-news-new-data-from-pew-research/#:~:text=Pew%20Research%20found%20that%2062,turn%20to%20digital%20sources%20first.
For print journalists, that's sad.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)And now that has been proven wrong, you've moved the goalposts to "nobody reads the news".
Is that easier than saying, "I was wrong, it's been widely covered by mainstream media, I just can't be bothered to put any effort into finding out what's going on?"
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Show where ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox covered trump asking Big Oil for a billion dollars in exchange for deregulation and whatever hand-outs they want.
Show.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)You wrote that, didn't you?
You've been proven wrong multiple times yet still insist that television is the only "mainstream media".
I'm sorry you have trouble reading newspapers. They generally provide more in depth coverage than a 30-second story on a news program.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)"Your friends should know that Trump would sell out their kids' future to oil execs.
The media isn't telling them, so it's up to you. "
Link to tweet
"Be the media," she said.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Or that more people get their news from digital sources (Hint, this means social media shares, google searches, and browser recommendations - things you've dismissed) than from television.
Keep on pining for that right-wing spin from "Corporate McPravda".
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Where is it?
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)And ignore all the others who have.
I guess you only want to hear right-wing spin?
I'm not sure why you are here if you only want news from right-wing sources.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)I've visited every single link on this thread, including those alleging to have evidence.
As I wrote, they have shown nothing to support the idea they have covered the Media Matter story of Trump offering Big Oil whatever they want in terms of policy in exchange for a billion dollars.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)You even shared a story from yesterday covering this story, from the mainstream media at that!
Here, I'll even copy it for you:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/16/donald-trump-big-oil-executives-alleged-deal-explained
The fundraising dinner held last month at Mar-a-Lago with more than 20 executives, including from Chevron, Exxon and Occidental Petroleum, reportedly involved Trump asking for large campaign contributions and promising, if elected, to remove barriers to drilling, scrap a pause on gas exports, and reverse new rules aimed at cutting car pollution.
Congressional Democrats have launched an investigation into the ethical, campaign finance and legal issues raised by what one Democratic senator called an offer of a blatant quid pro quo, while a prominent watchdog group is exploring whether the meeting warrants legal action.
But the analysis shared with the Guardian shows that the biggest motivation for oil and gas companies to back Trump appears to be in the tax system, with about $110bn in tax breaks for the industry at stake should Joe Biden be re-elected in Novembers election.
As you can see, it is a story from yesterday (see the date in the URL -that's the http website link) and it is a story about Donald Trump offering a deal to oil executives about a $1B campaign donation (that's in the first graf - that's a journalism ref to a paragraph).
Glad to help out!
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Seeing how Corporate McPravda ignore the story, if it wasn't for me you wouldn't know about the coverage in The Guardian.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)I mean you posted an article that completely undercut your entire argument!
So obviously you must not have understood what the article said. I was just trying to explain that to you, since you obviously missed the date, what with saying it was being ignored, and the fact that it was reporting what you said wasn't being reported.
And you're still wanting to get your news from "Corporate McPravda".
I guess you only trust news from Putin approved sources?
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)You didn't find it.
And you never said how many people you know who subscribe to The Guardian.
Newspapers need subscribers, you know.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)And just so you know, people are able to multitask. And web browsers can have more than one window open. So when you were insisting that no one was covering it, I used this wonderful thing called "Google" - which returned a big list of stories from the mainstream media. The first one was a story from "The Guardian" and wow, you shared that story as well - completely disproving your insistence that the story was being ignored by the mainstream media.
But I guess you only want to hear the Republican/Putin spin from "Corporate McPravda."
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)From the Helpful Professor

Readers are leaders!
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)I'm not sure who the helpful professor is, and I'm not sure how this explains that newspapers and websites aren't mainstream media.
Or is the helpful professor mainstream media? I'll grant that your graphic has no reference to Trump's $1B oil deal meeting.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)I understand your opinion.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Your argument seems to be that NBC, CBS, Fox, ABC, CNN, or "Corporate McPravda" as you so cleverly put it, aren't covering a story, therefore it isn't being covered. I really don't understand why you are upset that "Corporate McPravda" isn't covering the story, since you obviously respect them so much.
You then dismiss reporters doing actual work to cover this story, the ones actually doing the investigative journalism, because nobody reads papers, you question the bonafides of someone who spent two decades in as a reporter, you divert attention from your failed argument with 50-year-old non-sequiturs, try to pretend that another widely reported story wasn't widely reported, and double down when multiple people in the thread who have pointed out that your are, in fact, badly misinformed.
So I'm sure you understand my opinion, you understand everything else in this thread so well...
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Which is why I don't think much of your analysis or writing.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)I see that discussion as a clear example of attempting to divert the attention away from the subject at hand with a detour into petty arguments about, something.
Thank you for sticking to the point despite despite the personal attacks.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)I also wonder how someone who doesn't read the news or the Internet finds out about stories that are buried...
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)The personal insults are telling, as well.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Im sorry you arent in control of your DU account. If someone from Media Matters has hijacked your DU account you should probably contact the mods, they can help get this hijacked account situation sorted.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)The point: you still have failed to show even a single example of coverage of the Media Matters story by NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN or Fox.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Your post said "MAINSTREAM MEDIA".
You refuse to acknowledge that the story was extensively covered outside of TV stations, which you dismiss as "Corporate McPravda."
So what do you want, a bunch of corporatist Republicans on Putin's payroll spoonfeeding stories to the public, rather than in-depth coverage from reputable media sources? Because it sounds like that's what you're arguing.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Coverage of the story is nowhere to be found in Corporate McPravda -- the six big players in the mainstream news media that create about 90-percent of the content created and, thus, provide most of the news that Americans "consume."
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Did you copy/paste incorrectly?
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Those companies own NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and Fox News.
Still await you submitting their coverage of the story.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)That's what spammers and phishers do to get personal info - hide links behind fake names.
I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge that the story was widely covered by everyone except your "Corporate McPravda" (although if you actually read the list I put on another post, you will see a pair of links to stories from NBC and CBS).
How odd that you hate the MSM so much you give them a stupid nickname, yet you want them to cover the story.
It's also strange that you could have avoided this whole thing by not editing your thread title, but hey, you got a whole bunch of posts and recs out of it...
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)That you prefer to discuss my limitations as a human being instead of Trump apparently offering Big Oil whatever they want in exchange for a billion dollars.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)I thought it was about the mainstream media not reporting on that. That's what your title says. Of course, you've proven time and time again in this post that you really don't care about accuracy. So I can see you misunderstanding what your post was about and thinking my responding to what you posted was an insult.
I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt. But again, had you said Television stations, or even your little "Corporate McPravda" then the whole misuderstanding would have been avoided.
Of course, you could edit your OP back to the way you orginally posted if you really cared about accuracy. But you obviously don't. You'd rather be the victim than be right.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Yet, you find fault with my headline.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)And if the Post and MSNBC are covering it, Haberman isnt employed by either, so where is her coverage?
Id suggest you reread your OP before boldly stating its about her.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)If a tree falls in the forest...
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Details, courtesy of Greenpeace:
The Lewis Powell Memo: A Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracy
The Powell Memo (also known as the Powell Manifesto)
The Powell Memo was first published August 23, 1971
Introduction
In 1971, Lewis Powell, then a corporate lawyer and member of the boards of 11 corporations, wrote a memo to his friend Eugene Sydnor, Jr., the Director of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The memorandum was dated August 23, 1971, two months prior to Powells nomination by President Nixon to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The Powell Memo did not become available to the public until long after his confirmation to the Court. It was leaked to Jack Anderson, a liberal syndicated columnist, who stirred interest in the document when he cited it as reason to doubt Powells legal objectivity. Anderson cautioned that Powell might use his position on the Supreme Court to put his ideas into practice in behalf of business interests.
Though Powells memo was not the sole influence, the Chamber and corporate activists took his advice to heart and began building a powerful array of institutions designed to shift public attitudes and beliefs over the course of years and decades. The memo influenced or inspired the creation of the Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute, the Cato Institute, Citizens for a Sound Economy, Accuracy in Academe, and other powerful organizations. Their long-term focus began paying off handsomely in the 1980s, in coordination with the Reagan Administrations hands-off business philosophy.
Most notable about these institutions was their focus on education, shifting values, and movement-building a focus we share, though often with sharply contrasting goals.* (See our endnote for more on this.)
So did Powells political views influence his judicial decisions? The evidence is mixed. Powell did embrace expansion of corporate privilege and wrote the majority opinion in First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, a 1978 decision that effectively invented a First Amendment right for corporations to influence ballot questions. On social issues, he was a moderate, whose votes often surprised his backers.
CONTINUED...
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/
Additional important history to know...
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy
The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.
John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.
Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.
This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.
Source: TUC Radio
Part 1: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-one-of-two/
Part 2: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-two-of-two/
John Shaft
(808 posts)The United States is filthy with corruption and injustice. It always has been. None of this is new.
What do you expect from a nation founded on genocide, slavery, and theft?
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)A phrase thats not heard on TV, coined by the late Ben Bagdikian:
The Media Monopoly
Ben Bagdikian, Visionary
Jeff Cohen
Fairness and Accuracy In Media FAIR, March 12, 2016
EXCERPT...
Before almost anyone else, Ben warned about the impact of the modern wave of media mergers that accelerated during the Reagan years (and accelerated further during the Clinton administration). In the first years of FAIR, I heard from various sympathetic journalists in mainstream media who said they were thrilled that, finally, a proworking journalist media watch group had formed . . . but that we were off-base to emphasize the impact of corporate ownersthat the problem was in the newsroom far more than the boardroom. A few years and a few mergers later, these same journalists told us that wed been right, almost propheticthat boardrooms were undermining journalism, often quite nakedly.
But we werent the visionaries. It was Ben Bagdikian who was the seer.
Ben was a journalists journalistfrom his years as a local reporter to his years at the Washington Post (where he played a crucial role in publishing the Pentagon Papers and went undercover as an inmate in a maximum-security prison). He served the public, not the boardroomand luckily for him, he got out of corporate media before the conglomerate era.
SNIP...
Bens motto through all these decades could have been: Tell the Truth and Stand Strong.
The New York Times obit for Ben (3/11/16) quotes his message to his journalism students at UC Berkeley:
Never forget that your obligation is to the people. It is not, at heart, to those who pay you, or to your editor, or to your sources, or to your friends, or to the advancement of your career. It is to the public.
SOURCE: http://fair.org/home/ben-bagdikian-visionary/
Additional info on corporate owned news:
http://www.corporations.org/media/
https://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaMonopoly_Bagdikian.html

Media Monopoly: Great for the Billionaires, another disaster for Democracy.
PS: What you wrote is true true. Still, Ive tried my best and expect the same from other citizens.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)So you think they are Putin's mouthpieces, but you want them reporting your news?
Do you even see the irony in complaining you aren't getting propaganda?
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)I don't.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)But if you want to get your news from people you don't think are covering the president fairly, then good on you and enjoy your Republican spin on things.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)For those who are interested:
The mainstream media are a lot like the National Enquirer when it comes to ignoring bad stories about Trump and broadcasting bullshit about Biden.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Sounds like you really DON'T want this "IMPORTANT STORY" being covered. Because you say the people you want covering it are favorable to Trump. An odd take on a Democratic board.
Odder than pretending that newspapers and social media don't exist.
KS Toronado
(22,705 posts)I hope so.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Did find a mention from the Ragin Cajun that loops irritatingly on the YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/atKsWGkjU5s
Yet, from the oil-soaked media monopoly, nothing.
KS Toronado
(22,705 posts)If there is a recording . Biden will be taking that to the first debate.
live love laugh
(16,132 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, and our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of
. It is they who pull the wires that control the public mind. Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda, published 1928.

Heres the history. First, details and a GOP legal memo from a guy Nixon later tapped for SCOTUS:
The Lewis Powell Memo: A Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracy
Additional important history to know...
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy
The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.
John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.
Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.
This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.
Source: TUC Radio
Part 1: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-one-of-two/
Part 2: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-two-of-two/
Heres what political reporters care about, and its not you
By Dan Froomkin
Press watchers.org - November 17, 2022
Its a mystery to a lot of folks how political reporters who seem so smart and accomplished consistently get the big things wrong.
The reason is that political reporters are human beings. Human beings respond to incentives. And in the case of the elite Washington press corps, those incentives are skewed.
These reporters respond to four core constituencies: Their editors, their sources, their peers, and right-wing trolls.
SNIP
Your Editors
You will never get scolded by your editors for talking trash about Democrats. That proves your independence. By contrast, if you express an even slightly negative common-sense view about the Republican Party, that is liberal editorializing that sets off alarms throughout the newsrooms glass offices. You get rewarded for scoops incremental tidbits of no lasting significance not edification. Your safest place is always in the middle, pointing fingers at both sides. You are rewarded for unflappability, and looking like you care too much about something is the quickest way to lose your job.
Your Sources
If your sources dont return your calls, your editors will find someone else to do your job. Democrats will never cut you off, no matter what you write. Democratic operatives will even admire how you play the game. Republicans will cut you off if they conclude youre biased against them. As long as you dont stray from the conventional wisdom, youll be OK.
CONTINUES
https://presswatchers.org/2022/11/heres-what-political-reporters-care-about-and-its-not-you/
When Plausible Deniability infected the news room.
THE CIA AND THE MEDIA
How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up
BY CARL BERNSTEIN
Rolling Stone, October 20, 1977
In 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of Americas leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA.
Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty‑five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters. Some of these journalists relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine servicesfrom simple intelligence gathering to serving as go‑betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without‑portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested in the derring‑do of the spy business as in filing articles; and, the smallest category, full‑time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of Americas leading news organizations.
The history of the CIAs involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception for the following principal reasons:
■ The use of journalists has been among the most productive means of intelligence‑gathering employed by the CIA. Although the Agency has cut back sharply on the use of reporters since 1973 primarily as a result of pressure from the media), some journalist‑operatives are still posted abroad.
■ Further investigation into the matter, CIA officials say, would inevitably reveal a series of embarrassing relationships in the 1950s and 1960s with some of the most powerful organizations and individuals in American journalism.
Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were Williarn Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Time Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the Louisville Courier‑Journal, and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps‑Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, the Miami Herald and the old Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald‑Tribune.
By far the most valuable of these associations, according to CIA officials, have been with the New York Times, CBS and Time Inc.
Continues
https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-stone-10-20-1977
The Right has been at war with Democracy in the USA since FDR introduced the New Deal. They hate a free press that holds the comfortable to account and a public education system because it creates thinking people, in short, our democracy
mahatmakanejeeves
(67,899 posts)But who's ever heard of them?
The story was picked up, of course, by this obscure outfit called "Google" and spread far and wide:
https://news.google.com/search?q=Trump%20promised%20oil%20CEOs%20as%20he%20asked%20them%20to%20steer%20%241%20billion%20to%20his%20campaign&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
https://news.google.com/search?q=Trump%20promised%20oil%20CEOs&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
It seems I really do need to add that you are free to believe anything you want, but that doesn't make it true.
At DU, though, I know which version will be the one that lasts.
Thu May 9, 2024: WP EXCLUSIVE What Trump promised oil CEOs as he asked them to steer $1 billion to his campaign
What Trump promised oil CEOs as he asked them to steer $1 billion to his campaign
Donald Trump has pledged to scrap President Biden's policies on electric vehicles and wind energy, as well as other initiatives opposed by the fossil fuel industry.
By Josh Dawsey and Maxine Joselow
May 9, 2024 at 6:00 a.m. EDT
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https://wapo.st/3UBf4Fy
As Donald Trump sat with some of the country's top oil executives at his Mar-a-Lago Club last month, one executive complained about how they continued to face burdensome environmental regulations despite spending $400 million to lobby the Biden administration in the last year.
Trump's response stunned several of the executives in the room overlooking the ocean: You all are wealthy enough, he said, that you should raise $1 billion to return me to the White House. At the dinner, he vowed to immediately reverse dozens of President Biden's environmental rules and policies and stop new ones from being enacted, according to people with knowledge of the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private conversation.
Giving $1 billion would be a "deal," Trump said, because of the taxation and regulation they would avoid thanks to him, according to the people. ... Trump's remarkably blunt and transactional pitch reveals how the former president is targeting the oil industry to finance his reelection bid. At the same time, he has turned to the industry to help shape his environmental agenda for a second term, including the rollbacks of some of Biden's signature achievements on clean energy and electric vehicles.
{snip}
Trump vowed at the dinner to immediately end the Biden administration's freeze on permits for new liquefied natural gas (LNG) exports -- a top priority for the executives, according to three people present. "You'll get it on the first day," Trump said, according to the recollection of an attendee. ... The roughly two dozen executives invited included Mike Sabel, the CEO and founder of Venture Global, and Jack Fusco, the CEO of Cheniere Energy, whose proposed projects would directly benefit from lifting the pause on new LNG exports. Other attendees came from companies including Chevron, Continental Resources, Exxon and Occidental Petroleum, according to an attendance list obtained by The Post.
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John Muyskens contributed to this report.
By Josh Dawsey
Josh Dawsey is a political enterprise and investigations reporter for The Washington Post. He joined the paper in 2017 and previously covered the White House. Before that, he covered the White House for Politico, and New York City Hall and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for the Wall Street Journal. Twitter https://twitter.com/jdawsey1
By Maxine Joselow
Maxine Joselow is a staff writer who covers climate change and the environment. Twitter https://twitter.com/maxinejoselow
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Digital sources continue to grow while everything else shrinks but there are still some surprises.
A massive 86% of Americans get their news from smartphones, tablets or computers at least some of the time, according to new data released by Pew Research. Thats a 4% increase since last year.
Additionally, Americans prefer to get their news from digital sources. The numbers are smaller, with 58% choosing apps and websites over any other kind of news. Just 27% tap TV as their first pick but even those numbers are generous compared to the dismal 6% who prefer radio and 5% who prefer print.

SOURCE: https://www.prdaily.com/where-americans-get-their-news-new-data-from-pew-research/#:~:text=Pew%20Research%20found%20that%2062,turn%20to%20digital%20sources%20first.
Readers are leaders. Which is why billionaires bankroll conservative politicians who promise to eliminate the federal Department of Education and de-fund public education in the 50 states and however many territories the nation colonizes.
mathematic
(1,601 posts)You've gone around saying nobody reads the newspapers to justify your LIE that mainstream media did not report this. This story was first reported in the washington post. That's about as mainstream media as you can get.
You say TV media didn't report it and we should all be super mad about that. Now you post that fewer and fewer people are actually getting news from TV and more and more people are getting news from "digital sources".
How do you not realize that people that read stories originating from the washington post are doing so on "digital sources"? The poster you're responding clearly shows how the story was spread far and wide on digital sources.
Frankly, how is your judgment so bad that you simply accept Media Matters framing on this so uncritically?
underpants
(194,394 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)
Thinking in familiar terms makes things more eh clearer.
LetMyPeopleVote
(173,912 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)On the May 12 edition of Ayman, host Ayman Mohyeldin interviewed Kim Lane Scheppele, professor of sociology at Princeton University, and Michelle Goldberg, analyst and columnist at The New York Times. Scheppele pointed out that in many ways this proposition notwithstanding Trump has already hurt our chances of addressing climate change by packing the courts with judges that are already in the process of dismantling environmental regulations, adding:
So I'm afraid that, while the election is crucial to keeping America not for sale, weve already got in place a court thats been dismantling regulations. And here were seeing the decrease in checks and balances, packing of courts, and a president who announces the price tag for policies that really should be in the public interest and not in the private interest.
Source: https://www.mediamatters.org/msnbc/national-tv-news-exception-msnbc-failed-cover-trumps-scandalous-big-oil-proposition
Beartracks
(14,276 posts)"Reporting on Trump's crimes and corruption could be seen as 'picking sides,' and so we must maintain the appearance of impartiality by 1) not reporting on Trump's negatives, while also 2) not reporting on Biden's positives. Yeah, that's the ticket!!1!"
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Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)McGonigal, Trump, and the Truth about America
Timothy Snyder
January 26, 2023
We are on the edge of a spy scandal with major implications for how we understand the Trump administration, our national security, and ourselves.
On 23 January, we learned that a former FBI special agent, Charles McGonigal, was arrested on charges involving taking money to serve foreign interests. One accusation is that in 2017 he took $225,000 from a foreign actor while in charge of counterintelligence at the FBI's New York office. Another charge is that McGonigal took money from Oleg Deripaska, a sanctioned Russian oligarch, after McGonigals 2018 retirement from the FBI. Deripaska, a hugely wealthy metals tycoon close to the Kremlin, "Putin's favorite industrialist," was a figure in a Russian influence operation that McGonigal had investigated in 2016. Deripaska has been under American sanctions since 2018. Deripaska is also the former employer, and the creditor, of Trump's 2016 campaign manager, Paul Manafort.
The reporting on this so far seems to miss the larger implications. One of them is that Trumps historical position looks far cloudier. In 2016, Trump's campaign manager (Manafort) was a former employee of a Russian oligarch (Deripaska), and owed money to that same Russian oligarch. And the FBI special agent (McGonigal) who was charged with investigating the Trump campaign's Russian connections then went to work (according to the indictment) for that very same Russian oligarch (Deripaska). This is obviously very bad for Trump personally. But it is also very bad for FBI New York, for the FBI generally, and for the United States of America.
Another is that we must revisit the Russian influence operation on Trumps behalf in 2016, and the strangely weak American response. Moscows goal was to move minds and institutions such that Hillary Clinton would lose and Donald Trump would win. We might like to think that any FBI special agent would resist, oppose, or at least be immune to such an operation. Now we are reliably informed that a trusted FBI actor, one who was responsible for dealing with just this sort of operation, was corrupt. And again, the issue is not just the particular person. If someone as important as McGonigal could take money from foreigners while on the job at FBI New York, and then go to work for a sanctioned Russian oligarch he was once investigating, what is at stake, at a bare minimum, is the culture of the FBI's New York office. The larger issue is the health of our national discussions of politics and the integrity of our election process.
For me personally, McGonigal's arrest brought back an unsettling memory. In 2016, McGonigal was in charge of cyber counter-intelligence for the FBI, and was put in charge of counterintelligence at the FBI's New York office. That April, I broke the story of the connection between Trump's campaign and Putin's regime, on the basis of Russian open sources. At the time, almost no one wanted to take this connection seriously. American journalists wanted an American source, but the people who had experienced similar Russian operations were in Russia, Ukraine, or Estonia. Too few people took Trump seriously; too few people took Russia seriously; too few people took cyber seriously; the Venn diagram overlap of people who took all three seriously felt very small. Yet there was also specific, nagging worry that my own country was not only unprepared, but something worse. After I wrote that piece and another, I heard intimations that something was odd about the FBI office in New York. This was no secret at the time. One did not need to be close to such matters to get that drift. And given that FBI New York was the office dealing with cyber counterintelligence, this was worrying.
The reason I was thinking about Trump and Putin back in 2016 was a pattern that I had noticed in eastern Europe, which is my area of expertise. Between 2010 and 2013, Russia sought to control Ukraine using the same methods which were on display in 2016 in its influence operation in the United States: social media, money, and a pliable candidate for head of state. When that failed, Russia had invaded Ukraine, under the cover of some very successful influence operations. (If you find that you do not remember the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2014, it is very possibly because you were caught in the froth of Russian propaganda, spread through the internet, targeted to vulnerabilities.) The success of that propaganda encouraged Russia to intervene in the United States, using the same methods and institutions. This is what I was working on in 2016, when a similar operation was clearly underway in the United States.
Continues
https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-specter-of-2016
By Jove, I think youve got it! Putin put Trump in power and some in the national security establishment were corrupted and lied about it. And the story is known by a number of MSNBC viewers, followers of Dr. Snyder, and readers on DU. If our mainstream news media were honest, every citizen (and voter) would already know.
waterwatcher123
(443 posts)If the oil executives offered Trump one billion dollars in exchange for changing or eliminating a host of rules and regulations, it would be considered public bribery. The only difference here is Trump initiated the process in public by asking for a specific amount (one billion dollars) in exchange for changing laws and policies. It seems to me all the elements of the federal bribery statute are satisfied by this latest move by the brazenly corrupt former president (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201). Whether he is charged is another matter entirely.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Very much appreciate clear writing. Spot-on analysis. Thank you.
Trump declared he was open for business as President to the highest bidder. And there is no bigger bidder than the oil bidness. FWIU, all the worlds governments annual budgets amount to less than one years oil revenues.
What CREW wrote about the Supreme Court decision to let the insurrectionist stay on the presidential ballot:
After the Supreme Court ruled in Trump v. Anderson, the case brought by 6 Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters seeking to bar Trump from the ballot under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington President Noah Bookbinder released the following statement:
While the Supreme Court allowed Donald Trump back on the ballot on technical legal grounds, this was in no way a win for Trump. The Supreme Court had the opportunity in this case to exonerate Trump, and they chose not to do so. Every courtor decision-making bodythat has substantively examined the issue has determined that January 6th was an insurrection and that Donald Trump incited it. That remains true today. The Supreme Court removed an enforcement mechanism, and in letting Trump back on the ballot, they failed to meet the moment. But it is now clear that Trump led the January 6th insurrection, and it will be up to the American people to ensure accountability.
MineralMan
(150,469 posts)I mean...really...
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Please show where the coverage is on television.
Better yet, tell me about all the people you know, who are not on DU, who are discussing this.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Or where you mentioned television in your subject.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Show where ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox covered the story.
Show.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)When I can read an in-depth article about it?
Again, sorry you don't have the attention span to get your news from anything other than television. But that doesn't mean it's not getting covered.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Somehow, coming from you, that does not surprise me.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)But keep digging, maybe your reporter instincts will find the truth somewhere...
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)So why bring up a sideshow? The point is the mainstream media are ignoring Trump shaking down Big Oil for a billion dollar campaign contribution.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)The mainstream media broke the story.
What part of The Washington Post is mainstream media dont you get?
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Because if they did, everyone who does not read the Washington Post, would know that Trump offered Big Oil the keys to a petroleum polluted future in exchange for a billion dollars.
That's the story the American people aren't getting. The reason: The Washington Post has a Sunday circulation of about 400,000 and a million online subscribers. While that's a lot for a newspaper these days, that's not many in comparison to a country with 300,000,000 people. In order to inform a majority would require the national press to cover the story.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)And a simple google search revealed the article which I was able to read.
Just because you need your news spoon-fed to you by people you call "Corporate McPravda" doesn't mean that a story isn't being reported.
And since you are such an expert on this story, perhaps you can tell us what has happened since it broke a week ago. I'm not sure what editor would think that a week-old story with no new developments was newsworthy.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Besides social media, no where in mainstream media.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)How many times can you repeat that absurdity?
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Who else besides the Washington Post, MSNBC and Media Matters for America has covered the story of Trump selling official access to Big Oil for a billion dollars?
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)It's in this thread.
Here, I'll link it for you!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18956745
And a few more since your Google doesn't seem to work:
Politico: (Right wing, but that shouldn't bother someone who wants Fox to cover the story)
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/09/trump-asks-oil-executives-campaign-finance-00157131
and another!
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/power-switch/2024/05/10/trump-the-oil-barons-and-the-1b-question-00157373
Oh look, The Hill is on it too! This is even from this week!
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4662616-raskin-democrats-probe-trump-request-campaign-cash-big-oil/
It's a follow-up from their initial reporting last week.
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4654557-trump-big-oil-1b-campaign-cash-request/
How about Mother Jones?
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/05/corruption-deal-donald-trump-offered-oil-executives-mar-lago-billion/
New York Times mainstream enough for you?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/climate/trump-oil-gas-mar-a-lago.html
What's this, network news covering it?
https://www.kpvi.com/news/political/raskin-opens-probe-into-trump-s-1-billion-request-to-oil-executives/video_909fba30-fcb3-58e2-83e2-15921faffa2a.html
https://www.klax-tv.com/news/national/raskin-opens-probe-into-trump-s-1-billion-request-to-oil-executives/video_e57c5e90-9741-5d00-b0cd-1266c606d726.html
And I bet more people learned about it on the Tonight Show...
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MineralMan
(150,469 posts)I see no need to pursue it further.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Which is the point: The mainstream media are ignoring Trump shaking down Big Oil for a billion dollar campaign contribution.
So, any news reports from ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox News on the story?
pwb
(12,436 posts)Try searching it on You Tube?
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)"Your friends should know that Trump would sell out their kids' future to oil execs.
The media isn't telling them, so it's up to you. "
Link to tweet
Gee. Like there was a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" or something.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)The headline said "TV News" not "mainstream media"
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Where are the television news articles? I just searched "trump oil billion" on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox News.
Apart from MSNBC popping up on NBC, and that's only on cable, no where.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Media Matters has a tendency to be hyperbolic. This is one of those times.
Claims that "Mainstream Media isn't covering (insert topic here)" are almost always hyperbolic and quite often patently false. They're often born out of either laziness or intentional ignorance.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Ive searched their web sites, including their search functions using the terms: Trump oil billion.
Nothing came back.
nakocal
(624 posts)which is why the media gives them such good coverage and does not report on them factually.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Ex-president at Mar-a-Lago last month hosted more than 20 executives, including from Chevron, Exxon and Occidental
Oliver Milman and Dharna Noor
The Guardian, Thursday 16 May 2024
A deal allegedly offered by Donald Trump to big-oil executives as he sought $1bn in campaign donations could save the industry $110bn in tax breaks if he returns to the White House, an analysis suggests.
The fundraising dinner held last month at Mar-a-Lago with more than 20 executives, including from Chevron, Exxon and Occidental Petroleum, reportedly involved Trump asking for large campaign contributions and promising, if elected, to remove barriers to drilling, scrap a pause on gas exports, and reverse new rules aimed at cutting car pollution.
Congressional Democrats have launched an investigation into the ethical, campaign finance and legal issues raised by what one Democratic senator called an offer of a blatant quid pro quo, while a prominent watchdog group is exploring whether the meeting warrants legal action.
But the analysis shared with the Guardian shows that the biggest motivation for oil and gas companies to back Trump appears to be in the tax system, with about $110bn in tax breaks for the industry at stake should Joe Biden be re-elected in Novembers election.
Biden wants to eliminate the tax breaks, which include long-standing incentives to help drill for oil and gas, with a recent White House budget proposal targeting $35bn in domestic subsidies and $75bn in overseas fossil fuel income.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/16/donald-trump-big-oil-executives-alleged-deal-explained
When it comes to capitalism: pocketing petrodollars beats civic duty, let alone democracy, all day.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)How many people do you know who subscribe to The Guardian?
Tell the truth. LOL!
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)See, you don't need to subscribe! It's kinda cool, it allows stories to be shared VIRALLY! That means that you see the story posted somewhere, and you can share it with others. That's probably what contributes to the Internet being the main source of news, as opposed to TV, which requires an antenna or a cable subscription.
pwb
(12,436 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)The problem is reach. The United States of America has about 250,000,000 people in the electorate.
That's why this story is so important: The voters need to know that the presumptive Republican candidate is willing to bargain away the planet's environmental future to the same people largely responsible for its deteriorating condition.
The only way to reach them is through coverage by the nation's largest news organizations, meaning the TV broadcasters.
live love laugh
(16,132 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Here's another story media supporters might want to consider:

Seeing how this happened when Trump ordered a mob to attack the Congress and stop the certification of the Electoral College, the editors who knew about this in January, 2001, had a responsibility to publish it at the time.
I very much appreciate that you grok why, live love laugh.
vapor2
(3,584 posts)the republicans in NY squealing about the trial being shameful blah blah blah
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Here's who they ALL will serve -- and it's not "We the People":
Oil & Gas Summary
from Open Secrets
Led by the oil and gas industry, this sector regularly pumps the vast majority of its campaign contributions into Republican coffers. Even as other traditionally GOP-inclined industries have shifted somewhat to the left, this sector has remained rock-solid red.
Since the 1990 election cycle, more than two-thirds of this sectors contributions to candidates and party committees has gone to Republicans. Besides oil and gas, the electric utilities industry is another big donor in this sector. Less generous, but even more partisan, is the mining industry. [Read more Background]
Source: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus?ind=E01
Little Sister, "the antidote to Big Brother," has a wonderful database of Who's Who and how they connect. For instance:
Pennsylvania Politicians Attend Lavish Fossil Fuel, Anti-Union Party in Manhattan
https://littlesis.org/news/pennsylvania-politicians-attend-lavish-fossil-fuel-anti-union-party-in-manhattan/
Until now, I never knew Jeff Yass had so much money and so many friends.
LetMyPeopleVote
(173,912 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)Thank you for posting her communication, LetMyPeopleVote! Her quote makes an excellent summation:
"Unfortunately, over a four-day period, TV news broadcast and cable networks -- with the exception of MSNBC -- did not cover Trump's proposition to oil executives. From May 9 through May 12, MSNBC spent 48 minutes discussing Trump's proposition to Big Oil, with nearly 40% of the coverage airing on Velshi.
What's really weird is how much the world has changed since she made it -- with near-all of those changes favoring the oligarchs, fascists, bigots and anti-American detritus who make up the VRWC.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Had you not decided to change your title from "Cable News" to "Mainstream Media" you wouldn't have had to flail around arguing that the Washington Post, the Guardian, and the dozens of other news orgs that covered this weren't "mainstream."
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)It's like you're obsessed or something.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)You seem to be obsessed with conspiracy theories about Corporate McPravda not reporting on a story (which they had reported on).
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)
Zambero
(9,913 posts)to all the other crimes, individually and collectively, that were also never reported.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)President Trumps staggering record of uncharged crimes
by Conor Shaw and Brie Sparkman
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington / September 27, 2022; Updated May 16, 2023
As of April 2023, Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 56 criminal offenses since he launched his campaign for president in 2015. That total only reflects allegations relating to his time in or running for office and omits, for instance, Trumps criminal exposure for fraudulent business dealings.
The twelve offenses we have added since we published the first version of this table in March 2022 include three criminal offenses relating to the investigation of election fraud and related crimes in Fulton County, Georgia; one offense relating to potential wire fraud stemming from fraudulent representations made to solicit PAC contributions after the 2020 election; one perjury offense relating to Trumps legal efforts to overturn the 2020 election; three offenses relating to Trumps unlawful possession of government records at Mar-a-Lago after leaving office; and four offenses in Manhattan, NY, related to his involvement in the payment of hush money to Stormy Daniels (a.k.a. Stephanie Clifford), who said she had an affair with him (Trump was officially charged in New York and pleaded not guilty to 34 felony charges of falsifying business records on April 4, 2023). The updated tracker likely understates Trumps legal exposure because the high volume of sensitive records discovered at Mar-A-Lago suggests that he could be indicted for multiple counts of willfully retaining without authorization government records containing national defense information, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 793(e)), even though it is only listed once on CREWs tracker.
Federal and state prosecutors are at an important crossroads with respect to accountability for the former president. On the one hand, the deadline has already passed or will soon pass for charges relating to several extremely serious offenses. That includes offenses relating to Trumps 2016 presidential campaign as well as his obstruction of the FBIs investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election and the subsequent special counsel investigation. The investigation of both matters was terminated by the Department of Justice at the direction of former Attorney General Bill Barr. While there is substantial evidence that Trump committed several felonies, he is unlikely to face consequences for that conduct.
While adherence to the rule of law requires that prosecutors pursue criminal indictments only where the facts, law, and principles of prosecution support such action, it is also critical that no individual be insulated from accountability simply because they are a national political figure, a former president, or a candidate for public office. Choosing not to pursue accountability for fear of political criticism or consequences is itself a deeply political act.
Failing to deter Donald Trump from engaging in further criminal misconduct would have profoundly damaging consequences for our democracy. Criminal law is designed to punish individuals for criminal offenses to discourage these individuals and others like them from engaging in the same conduct in the future. If President Trump avoids criminal prosecution for attempting to retain power despite being voted out of office or for compromising some of the countrys most sensitive national security secrets, the message to him and others who hold power will be clear: you can commit crimes that threaten the future of our democracy with impunity.
SOURCE: https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/president-trumps-staggering-record-of-uncharged-crimes/
There are great links and graphs at CREW on the various high crimes and sundry treasons which have escaped prosecution. C'mon, Justice! Keep the heat on the Orange Turd!
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)There is only one business mentioned by name in the Constitution: the Press, in the First Amendment. The founders understood the importance of an informed electorate for the nation to thrive. That is why, as pee-resident, Trump did all he could to keep the people from learning how he used the powers of government to enrich and empower himself and his cronies.
For instance, where was the mainstream media coverage when Trump invited Russia's foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and Russia's ambassador to Washington Sergey Kislyak into the Oval Office without any American press or national security officials. He did invite TASS, the old official Soviet news agency, now owned by the Russian government, though. I cannot find if this meeting was written down in the public logs. I understand that we only know the meeting happened because Trump posted a TASS photo on his social media.
That all happened May 10, 2017. How many people do you know whove seen this picture?

I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to The Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off.
"I'm not under investigation," he added.
I don't remember ANY coverage of it on the TV or broadcast radio. Perhaps one day we will hear it discussed in a Trump focused criminal trial for espionage.
Sources:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/10/527755991/trump-meets-with-russias-lavrov-at-the-white-house-today
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nut-job-james-comey-russia-2017-5
The polls indicating the 2024 Presidential Election currently is a dead-heat demonstrates the power of propaganda and the corrupt nature of Americas profit-driven news media. Were it otherwise, most Americans would know Trump hosted Russias top spies in the Oval Office.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)And cite an NPR report the day it happened. Your hyperbole keeps getting more and more comical.
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)
Or this?
liberalla
(10,757 posts)Still as shocking as when I first read this 2 months ago.
smh
Thanks
Kid Berwyn
(22,610 posts)The late Sherman Skolnick, an all-time curmudgeon and Cook County Illinois court gadfly, coined the phrase:
"Oil-soaked, spy-riddled monopoly press" to describe our nation's free press. Going from what gets and doesn't get coverage, Mr. Skolnick really was correct.
As for public policy, Big Oil likes to take the uncertainty out of Washington, D.C., specifically, and elections, in general. Take the Safari Club, please:
How a Deep State Plot Sank Jimmy Carter
PETER DALE SCOTT
WhoWhatWhy.Org, 11/02/14
The Safari Club was an alliance between national intelligence agencies that wished to compensate for the CIAs retrenchment in the wake of President Carters election and Senator Churchs post-Watergate reforms. As former Saudi intelligence chief Prince Turki bin Faisal once told Georgetown University alumni,
In 1976, after the Watergate matters took place here, your intelligence community was literally tied up by Congress. It could not do anything. It could not send spies, it could not write reports, and it could not pay money. In order to compensate for that, a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the Safari Club. The Safari Club included France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Iran. (1)
After Carter was elected, the Safari Club allied itself with Richard Helms and Theodore Shackley against the more restrained intelligence policies of Jimmy Carter, according to Joseph Trento. In Trentos account, the dismissal by William Colby in 1974 of CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton,
combined with Watergate, is what prompted the Safari Club to start working with [former DCI Richard] Helms [then U.S. Ambassador to Iran] and his most trusted operatives outside of Congressional and even Agency purview. James Angleton said before his death that Shackley and Helms began working with outsiders like Adham and Saudi Arabia. The traditional CIA answering to the president was an empty vessel having little more than technical capability.(2)
Trento adds that The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations. With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed . . . the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine.(3) Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who had been forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by Theodore Shackley:
Shackley, who still had ambitions to become DCI, believed that without his many sources and operatives like [Edwin] Wilson, the Safari Cluboperating with [former DCI Richard] Helms in charge in Tehranwould be ineffective. . . . Unless Shackley took direct action to complete the privatization of intelligence operations soon, the Safari Club would not have a conduit to [CIA] resources. The solution: create a totally private intelligence network using CIA assets until President Carter could be replaced. (4)
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https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/the-deep-state-plots-the-1980-defeat-of-jimmy-carter/
Big Oil, the Saudi Roils and global Petroligarchs HATE democracy. They want to get every last penny this extracted mineral can yield, even if it kills us. That's why they bought all the politicians.
Most importantly: You are most welcome, liberalla!
