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Well, things were going seemingly quite poorly for Trump lawyer Todd Blanche this Thursday as questioning of former Trump ally Michael Cohen continued amid the ongoing New York City trial of the ex-president on charges of falsifying business records.
Legal expert Norm Eisen was among those providing updates. OMG, Blanche asks if can approach and discuss all the objections sustained, Eisen relayed after a series of objections from prosecutors received the judges backing. Judge: (quietly, shaking head) no.Smackdown. Blanche is not up for this.
Earlier portions of Cohens time under questioning specifically from Trumps defense team also went poorly for Donalds lawyers, with again Blanche being upbraided by the judge after some of his initial questions focused on alleged animosity from Cohen towards
Blanche, rather than the defendant (Trump). The judge put Blanche on the spot at the time, insisting that the questions needed to focus someplace other than alleged bias against the lawyers.
I did not think it could get worse that Tuesdays start to cross for Blanche, Eisen added. Maybe its not worse, but it aint much better. He needed to come out swinging, impose his will on Cohen, rattle him & make impression on jury. Not happening.
https://bipartisanreport.com/2024/05/16/trumps-lawyer-utterly-tanks-during-additional-questioning-of-michael-cohen-at-trial/
Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)Then Blanche does it again today.
And Blanche has been widely criticized for his bad cross examination
and he is doing the same thing again today.
There is something really wrong with Blanche.
I don't know what it is.
Johonny
(26,361 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)He is supposed to be a good attorney.
And he is deliberately doing the opposite of competent legal work.
Even when the judge keeps trying to help him.
ms liberty
(11,288 posts)Which is how he (the defendant) views this whole revolting mess. "They hit me, I hit back harder" isn't that his go-to shtick that he's bragged about for years?
Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)This is not what Trump would want.
ancianita
(43,313 posts)Last edited Thu May 16, 2024, 01:40 PM - Edit history (1)
testimony in this trial, based on his lies to Congress and elsewhere, is not to be believed.
But Blanche fails to disprove the smoking gun document.
If he tries to impugn Cohen's testimony, one can still suppose that the smoking gun document Cohen was maybe/maybe not present for, the document itself is still grounds enough for a common sense verdict of guilty.
Prosecution should be able to best judge whether or not Cohen's testimony will convince the jury of his honesty under oath.
chicoescuela
(3,132 posts)Seems to me that this might work for tsf.
Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)Hoping for just one wayward jury member.
It would have been a better strategy just to do a good job and
rebut the witnesses in a professional straightforward way.
chicoescuela
(3,132 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)by doing a good job refuting the prosecution witnesses.
They could have at least tried to create reasonable doubt.
Instead of looking like fools and humiliating themselves.
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)NanaCat
(2,332 posts){snip}
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/young-donald-trump-military-school/2016/06/22/f0b3b164-317c-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html
No paywall: https://archive.ph/xEkHC
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)Wonder Why
(7,145 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)NanaCat
(2,332 posts)Would take only cashier's checks from certain clients. You know, forgers, counterfeiters, confidence game hucksters, and so on.
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)Talitha
(8,086 posts)He's doing exactly what Dump tells him to?
That's all I can think of.
Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)A strong one.
But Blanche could at least pretend to give a good defense from time to time.
And the fact he keeps making the case personal looks like he is a flawed
human being and attorney.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,425 posts)Also Convictions can be overturned if there was bad legal representation
If there is a book of dirty legal tricks, they have it.
Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)Now that he has gone against specific judge instructions this theory is more plausible.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,425 posts)The whole country has learned how to cheat the law and Roy Cohn the heck out of our system. Crooks, cheats and thugs instead of asking what you can do for your country. And after the pandemic nearly destroyed our sanity and ability to discern good advice from bad, we are just spinning our wheels.
Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)Yes the US is descending into chaos, division, violence.
This is the result of a deliberate strategy on the part of the PutinGOP.
Putin of course wishes to weaken the US and is using a divide and conquer strategy.
The GOP is only too happy to help Putin, they want permanent power and access to all
US financial assets.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,425 posts)i.e. when purchasing a home for under $250,000 you qualify for no down payment.
https://www.usa.gov/buying-home-programs
Building under infrastructure bill (Build Back Better) noticeable in rural areas.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Build_Back_Better_Plan
As well as the IRA: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2023/08/20/the-inflation-reduction-act-gives-rural-america-renewed-faith-and-jobs/?sh=1da313eb21dd
And will it help change minds to stand up for democracy? Doubtful, as it's pure emotion, zero facts.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/05/white-rural-rage-myth-00150395
wnylib
(26,228 posts)Cohen said about Blanche?
I can only think of one reason, but it's far-fetched. Trump might claim that the "unfair" gag order prevented his attorneys from focusing on Trump. He might say, "The trial was rigged. My lawyer couldn't talk about what Cohen said about me or focus on how untrustworthy Cohen is because of the gag order." Then he might try to appeal by claiming that the judge handicapped his lawyers from giving a full defense, so the the conviction should be overturned (if he's convicted).
But Merchan is telling Blanche to focus on Trump, not himself, so that gag interference claim about in his defense wouldn't hold up.
johnnyfins
(3,849 posts)The fix is in?
Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)How the outcome could be tampered with.
But this is trump
So anything is possible.
Beartracks
(14,621 posts)====================
Rebl2
(17,837 posts)guilty (tfg) will appeal and say he had bad representation, in other words lousy lawyers.
Irish_Dem
(81,865 posts)His attorneys have been awful.
Many of us here with no legal training could have done a better job
and we despise Trump.
At the very least we would not be pissing off the Judge all the time.
haele
(15,467 posts)Problem with that, he needs to have lawyers standing by to be able to appeal immediately after, or he risks some time in jail. It's a strategy that might work in a mobster's mind.
I hope Blanche got his money in advance for being a fall guy; TFG never pays "losers", no matter how much work and reputation they give him.
Haele
EYESORE 9001
(29,815 posts)Perhaps shart blanche is wielding incompetence as a weapon.
onenote
(46,188 posts)Wednesdays
(22,826 posts)From CNN's Antoinette Radford
Donald Trump's defense has frustrated his former attorney, Michael Cohen, after questioning about his testimony in his own previous criminal trial.
Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison in December 2018 for crimes that included arranging payments during the 2016 election to silence women who claimed affairs with Trump after the Presidents onetime fixer attributed his offenses to my duty to cover up his dirty deeds.
On the stand today, Cohen called US District Judge William Pauley III "corrupt."
CNN legal analyst Elie Honig said Cohens frustration while discussing the charges against him are where he begins to come apart under questioning.
This is where he loses it. He goes off the rails. The fact that he plead guilty to tax and bank fraud makes him so angry. He cant hide it in his public appearances," Honig said.
Hes pretty calm and casual about the other stuff, but this sets him off.
CNNs Laura Coates also suggested that the jury may start to question Cohen as a result of this cross-examination.
Legal analyst Adam Kaufmann added that the defense was undermining how Cohen comes across to the jury.
Speaking to CNN, Kaufmann noted that Cohen was essentially saying everyone in the world. Everyone in this system was corrupt except me. The judge, the prosecutors, it was all out to get me. And thats not going to fly with the jury.
He said the tactic made Cohen come across as defensive, which "really undermines the I lied before, I was bad before but now Ive fessed up to everything Ive done, Ive owned it'" explanation.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-16-24/index.html
If the jury thinks Cohen is lying, the whole trial goes down the tubes.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)To believe Cohen is lying they would have to believe a number of other witnesses are also lying. I don't think that would happen. When ten people tell the same story you don't think well, one of them might be lying, so I don't believe any of them now.
meow2u3
(25,250 posts)or hang the jury.
Boomerproud
(9,326 posts)He's being "grilled".
Kaleva
(40,381 posts)Vinca
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checks Trump signed not being business records because they were from a personal account. It's not illegal to pay off porn stars and if the case hinges on the falsification of business records, doesn't the Great Orange Criminal ending up walking on this?
sybylla
(8,655 posts)This hid the fact that these payments were for the hush money scheme that were also hiding truth from the voting public, which is what the big legal issue is here.
It's business fraud. It's election interference. Trump, his accountant, and Cohen made this all happen. It's what Cohen already served time for (plus contempt).
The origin of the funds does not matter as NDAs are legally fine.
colorado_ufo
(6,259 posts)It doesn't matter if Trump reimbursed him with antique furniture. The intent was to cover it up to assist his campaign.
InstantGratification
(443 posts)That doesn't make it a personal account, that just makes it an account within the Trump Org that only he could access. (which was the testimony the 2 Trump Org accountants gave earlier in the trial) If it were an actual personal account, there would have been no need to account for it in Trump Org books.
ScratchCat
(2,750 posts)Where they are likely angling for a mistrial to delay a guilty verdict on Trump's record.
live love laugh
(16,429 posts)Blue Owl
(59,329 posts)a kennedy
(36,106 posts)🤬 🤬 🤬
captain queeg
(11,780 posts)You know TSF will appeal, but it would make statement that his guilt is so obvious.
Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)Boomerproud
(9,326 posts)Nt