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kpete

(72,898 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:03 PM Nov 2012

All of the Gulf of Mexico Just Got Sold.



TOMORROW: Obama Administration To Offer More Than 20 Million Acres in Western Gulf of Mexico for Oil and Natural Gas Exploration and Development

November Sale Will Offer All Available Unleased Areas in the Western Gulf of Mexico, Only Latest in a Series of Recent Major Offshore Oil and Gas Sales

11/27/2012

Contact: Blake Androff (DOI) 202-208-6416
John Filostrat (BOEM) 504-731-7815


WASHINGTON – Tomorrow, as part of President Obama’s all-of-the-above energy strategy to continue to expand safe and responsible domestic energy production, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) will hold an oil and gas lease sale that will make more than 20 million offshore acres available, and represents all unleased areas in the Western Gulf of Mexico Planning Area. The Western Gulf of Mexico Lease Sale builds on two major Gulf of Mexico lease sales in the past year alone, a 21 million acre sale held last December and a 39 million acre sale held in June.

“At President Obama’s direction, his Administration continues to implement a comprehensive, all-of-the-above energy strategy, expanding domestic production, reducing our dependence on foreign oil, and supporting jobs,” said Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. “Developing public energy resources in the Gulf of Mexico continues to generate much needed revenue for local communities while helping to power our nation and fuel our economy.”

The lease sale will be held on November 28, 2012 at 9:00 AM CDT, at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana—and supports the Administration’s goal of continuing to increase domestic oil and gas production, which has grown each year the President has been in office, with domestic oil production in 2011 higher than any time in nearly a decade and natural gas production at its highest level ever. Foreign oil imports now account for less than 50 percent of the oil consumed in America – the lowest level since 1995.

Tomorrow’s offshore lease sale will be the first held under the Administration’s new Outer Continental Shelf Oil and Gas Leasing Program for 2012–2017 (Five Year Program), which makes available for exploration and development all of the offshore areas with the highest conventional resource potential that together include more than 75 percent of the Nation’s undiscovered, technically recoverable offshore oil and gas resources. BOEM also recently announced that the next Central Gulf of Mexico lease sale, proposed Lease Sale 227, will take place on March 20, 2013, making 38 million acres available.

more:
http://www.doi.gov/news/mediaadvisories/tomorrow-obama-administration-to-offer-more-than-20-million-acres-in-western-gulf-of-mexico-for-oil-and-natural-gas-exploration-and-development.cfm
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/28/1165343/-All-of-the-Gulf-of-Mexico-Just-Got-Sold
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All of the Gulf of Mexico Just Got Sold. (Original Post) kpete Nov 2012 OP
Thank God Obama is taking global warming seriously! NickB79 Nov 2012 #1
I am afraid you are correct. russspeakeasy Nov 2012 #4
Energy efficiency standards across the board have been raised by Obama and are being raised more. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #66
+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #101
no fucking words. n/t Tansy_Gold Nov 2012 #2
You don't think corporations would allow two *fully* different choices for President, do ya? villager Nov 2012 #3
^ This, unfortunately. n/t susanna Nov 2012 #60
Not funny, but you made me laugh. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #91
I can certainly understand this nc4bo Nov 2012 #5
The big picture is global warming NickB79 Nov 2012 #8
Bye bye oceans newfie11 Nov 2012 #6
But not to BP, so we got that going for us. bluedigger Nov 2012 #7
Obviously a Republican forced him to do it. woo me with science Nov 2012 #9
Nah, Obama's got the Repubs right where he wants 'em! OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Nov 2012 #54
Obviously, 200 Million US drivers expected him do do this bhikkhu Nov 2012 #85
Mileage is going down tama Nov 2012 #102
He's not a dictator! Bonobo Nov 2012 #110
Why does America hate Earth? nt tama Nov 2012 #112
I AM SO DAMN ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!! dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #10
**** NCarolinawoman Nov 2012 #49
So is it ok to complain yet? SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #11
You missed your opportunity for redress (6:37 am - 6:40 am, November 7, 2012.) OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #16
You'll be sure to let me know SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #32
He's only been in office four years!!1111!1!11! morningfog Nov 2012 #25
Really. I held my nose while casting my vote for Obama the 2nd time, because I thought just Nay Nov 2012 #31
Good Floyd_Gondolli Nov 2012 #79
Out from where? tama Nov 2012 #105
Thoreau and Civil Disobedience tama Nov 2012 #103
*sigh* montanto Nov 2012 #12
No words left....... Paper Roses Nov 2012 #13
Disheartening Rider3 Nov 2012 #14
Shit. Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2012 #17
Its the Third Way... nt HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #18
I remember the first time.... azbillyboy Nov 2012 #19
I was born in and grew up in FL, so this whole thing was a visceral nightmare for me. I almost Nay Nov 2012 #48
You say that... azbillyboy Nov 2012 #81
The guilty DO escape relatively unharmed -- until the planet itself has too much damage and they Nay Nov 2012 #88
Oh yeah! azbillyboy Nov 2012 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #115
Inverse Fascism, like Chris Hayes keeps saying..... plethoro Nov 2012 #20
Disaster Capitalism, as Klein said. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #56
I think we're past flashpoint, dixiegrrrl. I think this stuff is plethoro Nov 2012 #67
+1 OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #68
the next step I am waiting for is dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #72
Uh oh. I hope none of McConnell's Morons are reading your post. They'll plethoro Nov 2012 #78
Thread Title FAIL - snooper2 Nov 2012 #21
Oh thank god it's only part of the GOM... SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #34
Looks like a lot more deep water drilling,, what could go wrong? bahrbearian Nov 2012 #35
Oh, well, everything's OK then WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #41
for the most part, yeah things are pretty good... snooper2 Nov 2012 #57
are we stockpiling all this oil? ibegurpard Nov 2012 #64
Like the Tar Sands...will we be assured the oil stays here? Or does it go to China, India KoKo Nov 2012 #73
the oil will go to Texas..which has seaports... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #76
Okay...ship it out and not that American People are Independent..but it's help to KoKo Nov 2012 #93
You are getting interest on your savings accounts and cds????????? dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #96
Yeah...Wopping 0.1%...If I yell like hell I can get 0.4% but have to call bank in 3 Months! KoKo Nov 2012 #97
droughts, flooding, wildfires, hurricanes, mass vegetative die-offs... antigone382 Nov 2012 #77
You missed the memo; five percent of something is the whole thing now, apparently Posteritatis Nov 2012 #42
Oh yes, that'll not hurt at ALL during the next explosion/spill....... socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #43
Endorsed by Sierra Club? Scurrilous Nov 2012 #44
So? n/t NCarolinawoman Nov 2012 #51
This threatens the Flower Gardens alarimer Nov 2012 #59
He alluded to this all along; doesn't make it any easier :-(((((((((((((((((((( patrice Nov 2012 #22
Thats Tombstone talk, bahrbearian Nov 2012 #36
There are such a thing as green Democrats. I worked for one recently. & What we do if we don't patrice Nov 2012 #38
Ain't it funny how all that stuff we THOUGHT the Democratic Party stood for........... socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #45
Some times I vote Green or even Socialist, because the Dems don't seem to get it. bahrbearian Nov 2012 #55
And that is not tombstone speech. tama Nov 2012 #106
That is not the only natuional resource on the Auction Block. bvar22 Nov 2012 #23
This sounds super important and should be it's own OP! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #30
I agree, bvar22 Nov 2012 #33
Obama was the top recipient of Newscorp campaign contributions. OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #63
Dems are cheaper? nt tama Nov 2012 #107
Nope. More expensive. OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #118
Makes Sense tama Nov 2012 #122
I wish you'd post that. I was going to but... KoKo Nov 2012 #74
and Germany is laughing at us.... Volaris Nov 2012 #24
All aboard the fast train to extinction. nt Speck Tater Nov 2012 #26
Elections are costly nineteen50 Nov 2012 #27
Disgusting. MoonRiver Nov 2012 #28
Holy shit. Speechless. n/t Aldo Leopold Nov 2012 #29
Next: Obama approves the Canadian tar sands pipeline byeya Nov 2012 #37
Yup. You know that's coming. MotherPetrie Nov 2012 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #116
Not a big deal...the Gulf has completely recovered...they said so in a joeybee12 Nov 2012 #40
Whoooeeeeeeeeeee, we're all going to die ReRe Nov 2012 #46
So the oil companies destroyed the gulf and rather than punishing them severely were rewarding them? Initech Nov 2012 #47
Yes. IOW, business as usual in the Corporate States of America. nt Nay Nov 2012 #50
Wilkommen to the new corporate oligarchy AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #52
But, but Alabama has nothing but white sandy beaches and fishing's rebounded along the Gulf. bulloney Nov 2012 #53
And here I thought I would not wake up to atrocities. Well I really didn't go to sleep. lonestarnot Nov 2012 #58
ugh. the pic of the wave is gnarly. Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #61
No it hasn't. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #62
How about photos Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #70
So glad I voted for a Democrat. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #65
Can't wait to see this added to The List. nt OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #117
Selling off the Gulf of Mexico offsets the Lilly Ledbetter Act just a lil bit. OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #119
Remember how the 2nd term Obama was going to unleash the deep-seated liberal? Doctor_J Nov 2012 #71
Fully expected this, MadHound Nov 2012 #75
I assume everyone complaining about this only ever travels by bike or on foot. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #80
Or give up cheap food. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #98
What could possibly go wrong? progressoid Nov 2012 #82
I'd be against it, but I haven't noticed anyone giving up their cars bhikkhu Nov 2012 #83
It doesn't matter what the president does whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #84
Yup!!!!11!!! He has a BLUE suit! woo me with science Nov 2012 #114
Because when it is "non-speculative outrage", it is too late. nt Bonobo Nov 2012 #86
+whole kit and caboodle n/t whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #87
There is a way to cut the use of oil Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #90
Whats the problem? Oil and gas are bridge fuels to the green energy future. Agony Nov 2012 #92
Good Point....that's exactly what the Propagandists will paint this as.. KoKo Nov 2012 #94
Plus! We need more atmospheric CO2 cuz it makes the plants grow bigger better! Agony Nov 2012 #100
unbelievable! nydem14499rsgx Nov 2012 #95
What pisses me off the most is that the companies then sell the oil to other countries. Marrah_G Nov 2012 #99
Don't blame me, I voted for Kucinich. flvegan Nov 2012 #104
And they made sure tama Nov 2012 #108
So far, yes they did. flvegan Nov 2012 #109
Just remember tama Nov 2012 #111
My sigline is old here. flvegan Nov 2012 #113
Spare Me The Outrage, OK? Paladin Nov 2012 #120
"Obama can't waive a magic wand" OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #121

NickB79

(20,304 posts)
1. Thank God Obama is taking global warming seriously!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:05 PM
Nov 2012

See, it's only bad for the environment if we burn OTHER people's oil. Our own American oil emits fairy dust and daisy farts when burned in a Hummer.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
66. Energy efficiency standards across the board have been raised by Obama and are being raised more.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:56 PM
Nov 2012

What Obama realizes that you don't is that the economy can't get shut down while those standards take hold. To some of you complaining, did you complain when Nader handed Bush Florida in 2000 and the Presidential election with it? Fuck the Supreme Court stole the election argument, 97,000 people in Florida that voted for Nader gave the Court that chance. Bush presided over one of the most damaging administrations in history in regards to global warming damage, Obama has run his ass off to start reversing policies that were implemented by Bush - including the Bush administration's outright hostility to green energy production. If you are of the mindset of the 97,000 in Florida, blame yourselves for the increase in global warming because you are significantly responsible.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
3. You don't think corporations would allow two *fully* different choices for President, do ya?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:08 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:25 AM - Edit history (1)

It's all one "sponsor-approved" corporate spectrum, from "Republican lite" to "Crazed Fascist Dingbat."

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
5. I can certainly understand this
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:17 PM
Nov 2012

GOM is fucked up beyond all possibility of repair anyway, might as well make the shit officially condemned.

Of course there's no real changes on how big oil does a damn thing; how they drill or maintain drills, wells and platforms, no new technology to clean up the oceans and shorelines and certainly no new improved way to prevent the poisoning of wildlife, sea life or our food supply or *gulp* humanbeings. It's all collateral damage to them.

Drill Baby Drill, the ocean's just fine - Come on down!!!





NickB79

(20,304 posts)
8. The big picture is global warming
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:42 PM
Nov 2012

The GOM is damaged, but that damage pales in comparison to what we're already seeing from global warming's impacts.

bluedigger

(17,429 posts)
7. But not to BP, so we got that going for us.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:35 PM
Nov 2012

Selling "all of the Gulf" seems like the corollary to being "a little bit pregnant" - it's an all or nothing proposition.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
9. Obviously a Republican forced him to do it.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:47 PM
Nov 2012

He has had the exact same problem with his Justice Department. Remember when they were escalating the war on marijuana and letting criminal bankers off the hook and defending Telco spying and going all the way to the Supreme Court to argue FOR warrantless wiretapping and strip searches for any arrestee? All against his deeply held principles?

We have *got* to figure out how these Republicans keep making his administration do all these things, even when no voting is involved.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
15. Nah, Obama's got the Repubs right where he wants 'em!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:26 PM
Nov 2012

It's N-dimensional rope-a-dope with chess pieces, I tell ya!

Brilliant!

Response to woo me with science (Reply #9)

bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
85. Obviously, 200 Million US drivers expected him do do this
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012

...as they just keep on racking up the miles. How do you separate producing the fuel from burning the fuel, and how do you think a president would be viewed who made unavailable something that the majority depend on?

I'd like to think that things will change, but I don't see people changing.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
102. Mileage is going down
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:18 AM
Nov 2012

In US and other OECD nations after 2008 people are driving less and less.

Of course what is left unconsumed by that progress, is taken up by Chindia...

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
110. He's not a dictator!
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:43 AM
Nov 2012

He can only NOT sell the Gulf of Mexico if he has a super majority in Congress!

Oh, wait... errr, it's called bipartisanship. Why do you hate America?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,156 posts)
10. I AM SO DAMN ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:56 PM
Nov 2012

I am sure I am not the only one here who has tears of anger and disgust at this announcement.

I am angry that my sons and grandkids will never ever know what it is like to eat fresh clean shrimp from the Gulf
or to grab trout with a net from fresh clean rivers in the Pac. NW
or to breathe non radiated air on the West Coast.

More and more each day I totally get that last scene in Soylent Green when edger G. Robinson's character voluntarily agrees to be euthanized to wall size pictures of clean landscapes, crystal clear rivers, etc.
(if you have never seen the movie, now is the time)

Those fuckwads won't be happy until the entire Gulf is blazing from one end to the other.
Then they will want to sell tickets to the world's largest BBQ.
which reminds me..how is that last well fire doing out by Louisiana?


SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
11. So is it ok to complain yet?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

Now that Obama is in office for another 4 years am I allowed to bitch about this? Or will someone come along and explain to me how this is a good thing since a Democratic administration is doing it?

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
16. You missed your opportunity for redress (6:37 am - 6:40 am, November 7, 2012.)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

There's the midterms to worry about now, and that kind of talk is going to cost us the Senate.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
32. You'll be sure to let me know
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:52 PM
Nov 2012

if another window of opportunity is coming up? I would certainly appreciate it

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
25. He's only been in office four years!!1111!1!11!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:23 PM
Nov 2012

Give him time to fix all of this!!!11111!1!1!1

Nay

(12,051 posts)
31. Really. I held my nose while casting my vote for Obama the 2nd time, because I thought just
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:44 PM
Nov 2012

this exact thing would happen.

He's a Republican, folks. Might as well get used to it. He'll use lube while he fucks us, and the lunatic Pubs wouldn't. Hell of a difference there, ladies and gentlemen.

I have to say I have totally lost any interest in politics. I no longer feel that my vote means a goddamn thing, and frankly, I don't give a shit what happens in the midterms.

All those dems "holding Obama's feet to the fire" -- how's that working out for you? Your 'fire' is about as hot as day-old mashed potatoes. The heat from the plutocracy, though, seems to be singeing Obama's ass daily.

Just disgusting. I'm done.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
105. Out from where?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:24 AM
Nov 2012

Who is leaving? This is our planet, our only home and we belong to it. Fictious corporate and government persons have no right to spoil our home.

azbillyboy

(56 posts)
19. I remember the first time....
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:34 PM
Nov 2012

....I got to go to Fort Walton Beach. I was a little tad with a full head of hair and unbridled optimism about life. Fort Walton Beach had to be one of the most beautiful places I had ever seen. The sand was sparkling white, not like the yellowish sand on the E. Coast. The water was stunningly clear and free of debris (unlike the beaches in CA).

Having grown considerably older and jaded since those days, I would never go back to Florida again. But it really pisses me off that the OPTION of going back to those wonderful, pristine beaches no longer exists. Then to top that injury off, I hear a constant barrage of phucking BP ads on the radio - all day long - telling me how the Gulf is open and just fine.

Like sprinkling some clean sand on a pile of shite is gonna cover up the stink?

What's the point? We have passed the tipping point in saving this planet. I give us maybe 10 years before things really start going to hell. And you know what? Arseholes on the Reich will still be thumping their gnarled little fists on the Corporate Media telling us everything is just f-ing fine!

Nay

(12,051 posts)
48. I was born in and grew up in FL, so this whole thing was a visceral nightmare for me. I almost
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:45 PM
Nov 2012

had to go on meds during the poisoning of the Gulf. I felt gutshot.

All I can say is that a lot of people are going to get what they richly deserve, and a bunch of innocents are going to suffer just as badly.

azbillyboy

(56 posts)
81. You say that...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

...a lot of people are going to get what they deserve. Really? It seems to me like the guilty often skate through unharmed while the innocents pay the price.

I remember pulling up Ft. Walton and Destin on google earth when BP was pumping zillions of gallons of filth into the Gulf and I cried for the loss.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
88. The guilty DO escape relatively unharmed -- until the planet itself has too much damage and they
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:00 PM
Nov 2012

cannot escape either. There's no other planet to go to -- yet. And if there ever is one, the rich folks will be going first while the rest of us fry.

azbillyboy

(56 posts)
89. Oh yeah!
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:45 PM
Nov 2012

There's a big "adjustment" coming when the Earth says "Enough!" Where will the rich hide?

Response to azbillyboy (Reply #89)

 

plethoro

(594 posts)
20. Inverse Fascism, like Chris Hayes keeps saying.....
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:35 PM
Nov 2012

Boy, the emails to Congress will be devastating....

dixiegrrrrl

(60,156 posts)
56. Disaster Capitalism, as Klein said.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:41 PM
Nov 2012

BP got away with destroying a huge chunk of the gulf, so now the rest of it is up for sacrifice.

It's not like we couldn't be pushing on a national effort to create non-oil forms of transportation and energy or anything, right?

Plus the fuckers get a gov't subsidy for drilling in OUR back yard!!!!!!!!!!

 

plethoro

(594 posts)
67. I think we're past flashpoint, dixiegrrrl. I think this stuff is
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:52 AM
Nov 2012

being done to keep us solvent so the banksters have something to write derivatives against.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,156 posts)
72. the next step I am waiting for is
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:06 AM
Nov 2012

a decision to fill the Grand Canyon with nuclear waste.
then cement it over.
After all, it is just a big hole in the ground sitting around not being put to productive use, right?

 

plethoro

(594 posts)
78. Uh oh. I hope none of McConnell's Morons are reading your post. They'll
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

think that is a great idea.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
21. Thread Title FAIL -
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:18 PM
Nov 2012

Since people are too lazy to actually research what the "Western Planning Area" consists of-




 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
57. for the most part, yeah things are pretty good...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:36 PM
Nov 2012

As our President continues to plan for all energy sources to meet immediate needs, become energy independent, and invest in future technology,

We are all doing pretty good. That's why we voted for the smart guy remember!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
73. Like the Tar Sands...will we be assured the oil stays here? Or does it go to China, India
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:14 AM
Nov 2012

and elsewhere like TarSands Keystone will do? Of course the decision about Keystone Pipeline will be made by Susan Rice if she is confirmed as SOS. Since she has huge holdings in KeyStone and oil companies along with Canadian Banks who fund the pipelines I'm sure she will be fair about this.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,156 posts)
76. the oil will go to Texas..which has seaports...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:38 AM
Nov 2012

which is why they want to create that damn long pipeline.
We have been selling oil from this country to other places for decades.
Can't make any money if you just store it for future use in American, don'tcha know.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
93. Okay...ship it out and not that American People are Independent..but it's help to
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:44 PM
Nov 2012

our Exports so that Ben Bernanke can squeeze those who depend on Savings Account and CD interests to get by once again...Shafting Us Savers?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,156 posts)
96. You are getting interest on your savings accounts and cds?????????
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:11 PM
Nov 2012

You are doing good.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
97. Yeah...Wopping 0.1%...If I yell like hell I can get 0.4% but have to call bank in 3 Months!
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:44 PM
Nov 2012

Hurts a lot of folks who depend on safe income in their older years, though. I can wait...but, they can't and it sucks.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
77. droughts, flooding, wildfires, hurricanes, mass vegetative die-offs...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:44 AM
Nov 2012

declines in agricultural productivity, ocean acidification, rising sea levels, and the triggering of positive feedback loops such as melting permafrost and the decline in reflective sea ice at the poles are not doing pretty good. We are on a track to mass death of the human race. Every single ounce of fossil fuel that we extract ensures the doom of billions. None of that is smart.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
42. You missed the memo; five percent of something is the whole thing now, apparently
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:22 PM
Nov 2012

Marvel as any responses you get (other than this one) either dodge that point or claim it straight up.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
43. Oh yes, that'll not hurt at ALL during the next explosion/spill.......
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:31 PM
Nov 2012

I'm sure it will be confined to that one little area. I mean it's only from south Texas to south Alabama. Right?

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
44. Endorsed by Sierra Club?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012

Oh my!!1!

<snip>

"GULF LEASE SALE TODAY: The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management will hold an oil and gas lease sale today made up of more than 20 million acres in the Western Gulf of Mexico Planning Area. Building on two other sales in December and June, today’s is the first under the administration’s five-year plan. The 3,873 blocks up for grabs today range from depths of 16 feet to 10,975 feet (a little over two miles) and could yield 116 to 200 million barrels of oil and 538 to 938 billion cubic feet of natural gas, according to BOEM. The sale takes place at 9 a.m. CDT at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans.

Sale as indicator of future: The National Ocean Industries Association expects the sale to be “interesting.” As the first sale under the five year plan, NOIA President Randall Luthi said in a statement, “the level of activity in this sale will be a good indicator of industry’s confidence not only in the remaining resources of the Western Gulf of Mexico, but also in the Administration’s willingness to allow those resources to be developed in a timely fashion.”

Greens not happy: Several environmentalists took to Twitter yesterday to bash the sale. “Obama, endorsed by Sierra Club, LCV, NRDC, MoveOn, opens 20 million offshore acres in Gulf of Mexico for drilling,” Brad Johnson of Forecast the Facts wrote. “Black Fri., Cyber Mon., now All of the Above Wed.” blogger R.L. Miller wrote of the sale.

http://www.politico.com/morningenergy/1112/morningenergy9555.html?hp=l6_b6

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
59. This threatens the Flower Gardens
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:14 PM
Nov 2012

One of the few reef systems in the Gulf. Unique habitat that attracts corals, lots of fish, whale sharks, all of which are not threatened.

How many times do I have to say that we cannot trust Obama?

patrice

(47,992 posts)
22. He alluded to this all along; doesn't make it any easier :-((((((((((((((((((((
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:19 PM
Nov 2012

Means we're going to have to commit more fully to get NEW green candidates in during the mid-terms and plan for what happens if we don't succeed.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
38. There are such a thing as green Democrats. I worked for one recently. & What we do if we don't
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:04 PM
Nov 2012

succeed encompasses an extremely wide variety of activities, many of which could be about putting pressure, actually, increasing pressure that is, on Democrats in the same fashion that the Tea Party did to the Repubican'ts.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
45. Ain't it funny how all that stuff we THOUGHT the Democratic Party stood for...........
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:33 PM
Nov 2012

now is IMMEDIATELY confused with a third party?

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
106. And that is not tombstone speech.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:30 AM
Nov 2012

Glad the election hysteria is over, at least for a while.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. That is not the only natuional resource on the Auction Block.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:19 PM
Nov 2012
What if I told you the Obama administration's first major post-election policy move was a big, fat gift for Rupert Murdoch?

<snip>

Word is that Murdoch now covets the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune — the bankrupt-but-still-dominant newspapers (and websites) in the second- and third-largest media markets, where Murdoch already owns TV stations.

Under current media ownership limits, he can't buy them. It's illegal ... unless the Federal Communications Commission changes the rules.

But according to numerous reports, that's exactly what FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski plans to do. He's circulating an order at the FCC to lift the longstanding ban on one company owning both daily newspapers and TV stations in any of the 20 largest media markets.

And he wants to wrap up this massive giveaway just in time for the holidays.
<more>

http://www.freepress.net/blog/2012/11/19/why-obama-fcc-plotting-massive-giveaway-rupert-murdoch



Looks like our airwaves are on the block....AGAIN.
Get ready for another round of Media Consolidation

It just keeps getting worse.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,591 posts)
30. This sounds super important and should be it's own OP!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:39 PM
Nov 2012

Murdock controls way too much US media all ready

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OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
63. Obama was the top recipient of Newscorp campaign contributions.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:47 PM
Nov 2012

Along with eight other Democrats (and Sen. Bob Corker.)

The only difference between Democrats and Republicans is the price to buy them.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
118. Nope. More expensive.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:42 AM
Nov 2012

Go to Open Secrets and look at the oil industry's lobbying expenses during the Bush administration. It was steady for the whole eight years. Beginning in 2008, it tripled.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
122. Makes Sense
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 04:19 PM
Nov 2012

Bush was oil man. Thanks for the info, gotta be connection to what I just learned, that Susan Rice and John Kerry are now big investors in Tar Sands and that way in Keystone pipe and what not. Who else?!?!?! There's a more than whiff of a big story here, you got more info? Or can you do investigative reporting to shed more light on how oil industry bought Dems? Those corrupt motherfuckers (literally) need to be publicly exposed.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
74. I wish you'd post that. I was going to but...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:18 AM
Nov 2012

you will get more views if you post it. I was so disgusted by it and the fact that it's not getting widespread attention I didn't think I could post without comments that would get me thrown off here...

Volaris

(11,645 posts)
24. and Germany is laughing at us....
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:23 PM
Nov 2012

WTF. Why can't we just build a damn tax-payer owned, GOVT. OPERATED clean energy company, put a branch office in every damn state, start making solar panels at cost (i.e., not for profit) and start calling home and business owners and asking if they want them stuck on their damn roofs for FREE?

How hard IS this?

And FUCK the incomming argument from the other side about how "thats a job for For-Profit Private Markets", if it were, they would have DAMN-WELL DONE IT ALREADY.

The Public Option isn't JUST applicable to HealthCare Delivery...and if the 'Baggers and Paulbots had ANY damn sense of the executables of their own ideas, they would have HAMMERED Congress not ONLY to let the banks go under, but seen to it beforehand that the Public Sector had been built up to such extent that the Big Banks could be ALLOWED to fail, and NOT drag the rest of the economy down with them when they fell. You want a reversal of Too Big To Fail? Make sure the Public Economy is adequatley supported ON IT'S OWN so the NEXT time wall st. does this ('cause they WILL do it again) you can just say, "Fuck you, we dont HAVE to help you, and the Randian Philosophy we all live by is that you shouldn't even be ASKING us for assistance; WE are FINE. We SAW to that already, by making sure we didn't NEED you to survive."

OMG I'm making Republican arguments for increasing the usefulness of the Public Sector, on behalf of the Public Good...(is that allowed here lol)...which begs the question..if WE can figure out their arguments FOR them, how is it that they CAN'T...

MoonRiver

(36,975 posts)
28. Disgusting.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:30 PM
Nov 2012

I only supported Obama because the other choice was so horrendous. I don't expect much from the next 4 years, unfortunately.

Response to byeya (Reply #37)

ReRe

(12,183 posts)
46. Whoooeeeeeeeeeee, we're all going to die
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:33 PM
Nov 2012

...is this what some rich SOB oil baron calls his "infrastructure"? Let me see... "deep water oil wells surrounding our country. 'Terrorist' kamikaze pilots take aim at each and every well around us on some date, like any 9/11. NORAD says stand down, but a few brave pilots defy orders and take a few of them out before the terrorist hits his target. Terrorist crashes into the water.".... someone finish this scenario. I'm sick to my stomach...
I'm new. I don't know how to link youtube clips... Someone run over and get "The END" by the Doors.

Initech

(108,498 posts)
47. So the oil companies destroyed the gulf and rather than punishing them severely were rewarding them?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:39 PM
Nov 2012
 

AldoLeopold

(617 posts)
52. Wilkommen to the new corporate oligarchy
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:50 PM
Nov 2012

I for one welcome our new Council of CEO's (the Senate)

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
53. But, but Alabama has nothing but white sandy beaches and fishing's rebounded along the Gulf.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:55 PM
Nov 2012

Didn't you see the TV ads?

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
58. And here I thought I would not wake up to atrocities. Well I really didn't go to sleep.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:41 PM
Nov 2012

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
62. No it hasn't.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:45 PM
Nov 2012

Selling of oil leases don't mean that other functions regulating oil drilling, energy efficiency and energy use aren't enforced. The federal government encompasses more than one function.

BTW. Why do you post a months old photo to raise hackles? Try posting a wave photo from the Gulf taken today.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
70. How about photos
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:38 AM
Nov 2012

Of all the dead dolphins or reports of the increased death rate of their young. Perhaps interviews with oyster farmers, or maybe small businesses that lost everything. The photo posted is entirely appropriate imo. Peace, Mojo

Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #69)

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
75. Fully expected this,
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:18 AM
Nov 2012

After all, those corporate masters have to be paid back. And if there were people out there operating under the misconception that Obama would be more liberal in his second term, this should be an early wake up call that no, he won't.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
80. I assume everyone complaining about this only ever travels by bike or on foot.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:04 PM
Nov 2012

I support President Obama's policy on this issue.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
98. Or give up cheap food.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:53 PM
Nov 2012

Let's just ban all drilling, and the use of refined petroleum products in this nation, today.

In six months, there would be massive starvation.

And that is not a guess, that would be a dead certainty.

bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
83. I'd be against it, but I haven't noticed anyone giving up their cars
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:24 PM
Nov 2012

...and the only reason we keep having to drill more oil is that people keep using so much, primarily driving cars. Simple cause and effect. There's many reasons to be against drilling for more oil, but its easy to demonize the providers, and ignore that we are, as a people, all users, who have largely not lifted a finger toward change.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
84. It doesn't matter what the president does
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:25 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:37 PM - Edit history (1)

DU taught me that.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
90. There is a way to cut the use of oil
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:05 PM
Nov 2012

This country needs to make the growing of hemp legal
Hemp can be used to make biodegradable plastic
Just think how much this alone would cut the use of oil and the price of oil would go down

Agony

(2,605 posts)
92. Whats the problem? Oil and gas are bridge fuels to the green energy future.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:02 PM
Nov 2012

I figured I might as well be first to catapult the propaganda...

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
99. What pisses me off the most is that the companies then sell the oil to other countries.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:56 PM
Nov 2012

They aren't required to sell it here. They make massive profits of our resources. They then use parts of those profits to purchase our politicians so the cycle can continue.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
111. Just remember
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:52 AM
Nov 2012

manipulating Kucinich out of Congress speaks of their weakness, how afraid they are of those who speak the truth to power, not of their strength.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
120. Spare Me The Outrage, OK?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:54 AM
Nov 2012

The Gulf of Mexico has been one gigantic oil and gas reservoir for the U.S. for generations. OCS sales have been going on for years and years, and the coastal scenery of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama has been speckled with vast numbers of production rigs for as long as I can remember---and this fat, dumb and happy country has been glad to live off the cheap fuel, just as long as the "pretty" coastal areas of the nation weren't impacted. Alternate fuels are generations away from attaining up-and-running status---Obama can't waive a magic wand and make it otherwise. So spare me the whining, particularly those of you who regularly use fossil fuels in your vehicles or homes. Work towards changing the energy situation, but understand that it will take a long time to accomplish something worthwhile.
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