No, Biden Did Not Order the FBI to Assassinate Trump at Mar-a-Lago

[Nevilledog]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-claim-fbi-kill-mar-a-lago-raid-1235025530/

No paywall link
https://archive.li/27PXe

Donald Trump’s attorneys recently argued in court that the former president should be shielded from all criminal prosecution — even if they order the assassination of a political opponent. While no president has yet to test that bold legal theory, Trump and his MAGA allies are now baselessly attempting to accuse Joe Biden of authorizing the assassination of Trump during the FBI’s 2022 raid of Mar-a-Lago.

Documents unsealed Tuesday revealed that more classified material was found at the former president’s Palm Beach estate after the FBI’s August 2022 raid. Republicans, however, have zeroed in on standard language in FBI search warrants authorizing the use of deadly force in appropriate circumstances, claiming Biden and the DOJ wanted Trump dead — even though he wasn’t even present on the property that day.

“WOW! I just came out of the Biden Witch Hunt Trial in Manhattan, the ‘Icebox,’ and was shown Reports that Crooked Joe Biden’s DOJ, in their Illegal and UnConstitutional Raid of Mar-a-Lago, AUTHORIZED THE FBI TO USE DEADLY (LETHAL) FORCE,” Trump wrote Tuesday of the FBI’s boilerplate authorization to use deadly force. “NOW WE KNOW, FOR SURE, THAT JOE BIDEN IS A SERIOUS THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. HE IS MENTALLY UNFIT TO HOLD OFFICE — 25TH AMENDMENT!”

In a campaign fundraising email, Trump further claimed that he “nearly escaped death” and that Biden was “locked & loaded ready to take me out.”

*snip*


Pure insanity

[Initech]

1. MAGA has gone so fucking off the rails insane.

Like anyone who believes this crap should get the straight jacket and padded cell treatment.

[underpants]

4. They are goading someone into acting

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3244338

We all know this and the "Unified Reich" thing is goading on his outer cult elements

They only need one to act and they become the new standard to show their true devotion. Think Ashli Babbitt or the guy living in the van with pipe bombs. The van guy has been forgotten at least in media we see but Ashli is almost a God to them.

[Initech]

10. Yeah that "unified reich" video is some scary shit.

It's definitely a "wink wink nudge nudge" dogwhistle aimed to stir up his most fanatical supporters into doing something horrible.

[wnylib]

13. Yes, these false claims are meant to goad some MAGA zealot into

attempting to assassinate Biden, or more likely, other Dem leaders since Biden's security is so tight

But, statements like this one also indicate a warning to the rest of us that MAGA leaders are willing to take power by force and are psyching up their followers for the need to do it.

[underpants]

24. That's a very good point

It looks like fealty but some % or individual are just doing it out of fear. Lots of them are quitting. Romney is paying $5,000 a day for security for him and his family.

[malaise]

2. The Slobfather is stark, raving

MAD
That is all

[rsdsharp]

3. If you "nearly escaped death" doesn't that mean you DIDN'T escape death?

Have the good grace to be dead, asshole.

[NBachers]

14. I've gotta rec this comment.

[peggysue2]

5. What the F is he talking about?

He wasn't even at Mar-a-Lago during the search. This is just another round of trying to incense the MAGA troops and get them to donate money.

What a poor excuse for a human being!

[wnylib]

17. Not trying to convince them to donate this time so much as

trying to get them incensed enough to believe that a violent overthrow of government will be necessary if Trump does not win in November.

Combined with promises to pardon and release J6 insurrectionists, this is meant to overcome any fear of taking violent action again this year.

[peggysue2]

23. Yup.

Unfortunately, that too. Although money drives Trump like crack. Along with power and the need to dominate others.

I do agree that all of this blathering and propaganda is to make Trump appear inevitable so that any loss in November is 'proof' of a stolen election.

We're in for some mighty rough waters, even as we push Trump and the MAGA crowd into the Deep Blue Sea.

Without life preservers.

[thucythucy]

6. Well, suppose for a moment that he did.

Aren't they arguing that the president has a right to do tbis?

[brooklynite]

7. The major point is that Trump wasn't at Mar-a-Lago when the FBI showed up.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

26. I think the major point is

IF Prez Biden and the FBI or DOJ or whoever were green lighted to assassinate that POS criminal, he'd be dead.

[Srkdqltr]

8. If Biden wanted Trump "taken out" he would be out. Without a trace.

Biden is professional not a thug.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

28. And it wouldn't be included in official orders.

JFC these idiots believe anything.

[Attilatheblond]

33. Yep. And there are probably more than a couple of trained agents who would quickly oblige considering human assets lost

during the years Trump was in the WH, supplying info Putin wanted.

edited cuz I hit post before doing a spell check.

[Bucky]

9. But if he did, Trump would support immunity for Biden

[jaxexpat]

18. True. Logically true, even. And that's why its false. Get it?

You see, the new and improved USSC only considers the patent outrage of immunity when the actor is a Republican. Democrats have reverse immunity in that they are certifiably guilty and subject to punishment for things they don't, didn't, couldn't or wouldn't do. For the lesser crimes of being falsely accused while publicly pilloried for shameless acts that never happened, Democrats are publicly pilloried. In order to maintain the balance and harmonious brilliance of our legal system, the DOJ has pretty much surrendered to insanity, entirely. Though hearings on the matter of this surrender have been scheduled for years, there has simply been no good time to actually hear them, what with the various objections and all. Concerned citizens could appeal this delay if they would be patient and wait, maybe, forever, certainly, 'til it's too late.

[KS Toronado]

11. Wish Biden would hurry up and assassinate The King of Babble-On

Thomas & Alito said he's got absolute immunity being President.

[Mr.Bill]

12. If only...

[Torchlight]

15. It's takes a willful, semi-hysterical ignorance for them to pretend standard FBI policy

is this week's reason to ignore trump's defeats and consistent humiliation in court everyday and expect anyone with even one-eighth of brain to buy it.

It's got as much weight as their little "standing back and standing by!” He-Man bumper stickers they plastered to the inside walls of their limbic cortex (right next to soft-porn swimsuit magazines and gun-calendars)

[Turbineguy]

16. So.... trump thinks he should be shot for what he did.

[Harker]

19. It's yet another call to arms.

Trumpsky had best prepare - he's overdue for his appointment in Samarra.

[calimary]

20. SOMEBODY PLEASE STOP HIM!!!

Yes. I’m shouting! But maybe somebody who can actually do something will get the message.

I wake up every morning wondering if THIS is finally the day he’s stopped, placed in custody, or hauled off to jail. Or AT LEAST somebody PLEASE unplug his mic and take his podium away!!!

[Mr. Ected]

21. Disinformation

His attorney argued in the Supreme Court that a president has the right to assassinate a political foe. They took a lot of shit for it. This is how they balance it all out with the rubes, by falsely accusing Biden of attempting to assassinate him.

Effing fascists.

[jaxexpat]

22. You know, the writers of our constitution, to the extent they ever considered immunity at all,

would have probably seen the current state of the union such that the executive would need be within the confines of immunity to perform "his duty" to save the country from the clutches of a madman, an express reason (on a painfully short list) wherein executive immunity should ever be employed.

"Alex, what could the executive do if some populist madman was turning the whole of our experiment into a dung heap for reasons only his disturbed mind could surmise?" asked Mr. Madison. "Well, James, he should suffer no prosecution were he to secure, in his time, the future of the country by whatever means, I think", Hamilton replied.*


* actual transcript of a conversation taped before a live audience in the winter of 1786. Found, along with 137 unmatched socks and gloves in my closet yesterday. Quite exciting. Don't you think? Anyone need a one-of-a-kind cuff link? People always ask for "link", could be handy.

[republianmushroom]

25. Now according to trumps attorneys that would have been OK to do away with trump.

It would of been protecting the US, the stolen doc' were classified. Presidential immunity.
Seems Moscow Mage and some others seem to forget that. Would work both ways.

40 months and counting (includes foot dragging)

[MorbidButterflyTat]

27. Wait a minute!

What's with this whiney crybaby behavior? I thought he was an "alpha male," a stud, Rambo-like as generated by CGI and AI.

He sounds like a deranged baby demanding his binkie.

[B.See]

35. Who??? The Bonespurs-in-Chief?

The guy who prefers American servicemen who aren't captured?

The guy who whined about a cold courtroom?

The guy who hid out in DER BUNKA for hours during a George Floyd protest?

[AllaN01Bear]

29. will somone please turn off that echo chamber?

[Maeve]

30. So he just finally got around to reading the search warrant and no one explaint they are ALL like that?

Sorry, the eyeroll emoji isn't strong enough for this crap anymore

[ProfessorGAC]

31. Really Dumb

If they wanted him dead, he'd be dead!
Plus, when they exercised that warrant, TFG was a thousand miles away.

[DFW]

32. If I were Joe Biden, I'd be deeply insulted by the insinuation

In my fantasy world, Biden would come out and say, "Trump thinks I would bother to assassinate him?? With so many evil guys around the world who are truly smart enough to plot some serious mayhem, Trump thinks I'm gonna order the killing of some dementia-addled old guy with the emotional makeup of an eight-year-old? I guess Donald Trump thinks I have the FBI and the CIA sitting around playing marbles all day. He would be mistaken in that assumption, but what else is new?"

[3catwoman3]

34. Thom Hartmann discussed this on his show this morning.

As mentioned in a post up thread, all FBI search warrants authorize the use of deadly force. It’s SOP.

[MOMFUDSKI]

36. And I say -

Why the hell not?

[dalton99a]

37. Biden should order the FBI to cut off his supply of diapers