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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:11 PM May 2024

Tennessee Homeowner Opens Fire on Pizza Delivery Driver After He Parks in the Wrong Driveway

https://atlantablackstar.com/2024/05/21/tennessee-homeowner-opens-fire-on-pizza-delivery-driver/

Initially, Ryan Babcock, 32, only faced one charge of aggravated assault after he allegedly fired seven shots at 18-year-old high school student and Domino’s Pizza employee Caiden Wheeler on April 29, according to local reports.

But a week later, on May 6, a Cheatham County grand jury handed down new charges against Babcock, including attempted second-degree murder, aggravated assault, three counts of reckless endangerment, and vandalism.


After pulling into the driveway, Wheeler proceeded to deliver the pizza, but before reaching the front door, he noticed the homeowner next door trying to flag him down, and that’s when he realized he was at the wrong place.

Wheeler quickly hustled over to the right house but left his truck in Babcock’s driveway for the time being.

After making the delivery, Wheeler walked back onto Babcock’s property to leave.


That’s when Babcock appeared with a gun, firing multiple times, police said.

Authorities said one bullet nearly hit Wheeler, who sped away and called police.
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Tennessee Homeowner Opens Fire on Pizza Delivery Driver After He Parks in the Wrong Driveway (Original Post) Demovictory9 May 2024 OP
RW response/solution - Wheeler should have been carrying a gun FHRRK May 2024 #1
Having a gun doesn't prevent one from catching bullets. Iggo May 2024 #16
What a great point. In fact, carrying a gun may make you a lead magnet. erronis May 2024 #19
An armed combatant at the least. littlemissmartypants May 2024 #26
Fuck with our pizzas Babdong, er Babprong, er Babcock and you fuck with America, buster! GreenWave May 2024 #2
"I swear to God, officer..the Ford truck was threatening me!" chouchou May 2024 #3
"it's coming right for us!!!" ret5hd May 2024 #5
"Stop Resisting" JoseBalow May 2024 #22
Babcock's actions are becoming more and more a standard Torchlight May 2024 #4
Shoot first, eat second. Or maybe bury the evidence depending. erronis May 2024 #20
Why did it take a grand jury to charge him properly? Mosby May 2024 #6
Yes, I also thought that was weird. mountain grammy May 2024 #34
It's a paperwork thing. NanaCat May 2024 #37
I'll say it: shooter white, victim big floppy afro lindysalsagal May 2024 #7
Geeze, how does he react when they screw up his order? Xavier Breath May 2024 #8
I'll bet he doesn't order pizza from them. No telling what special toppings will be added. erronis May 2024 #21
Tennessee gun humper Skittles May 2024 #9
MADGA B.See May 2024 #10
Egads, scared of a pizza delivery driver. Emile May 2024 #11
Yeah. When you're glued to some loudmouth on the radio yelling about how "they're coming to get everything you own!" peppertree May 2024 #18
Is Tennessee a stand your ground state? If so, I have to wonder how the jury will rule. Jim__ May 2024 #12
Even in stand your ground states you can't execute someone for breaking in your truck JohnnyRingo May 2024 #25
Especially if it isnt even your vehicle.... getagrip_already May 2024 #30
This guy shouldn't even be allowed to own a slingshot n/t JohnnyRingo May 2024 #31
Give an idiot a gun, don't be surprised when they do something stupid with it. Initech May 2024 #13
Gun nuts think society is a John Wayne movie. Oneironaut May 2024 #14
The solution to this problem is more guns, obviously IronLionZion May 2024 #15
Seven shots and the best he could do is one shot nearly hit Wheeler? keithbvadu2 May 2024 #17
Yes NanaCat May 2024 #38
He emptied the gun!!! JohnnyRingo May 2024 #23
Tennessee has a stand your ground law Diraven May 2024 #24
No one is more terrified than a white male gun owner Orrex May 2024 #27
Are you sure of that? JohnnyRingo May 2024 #28
In most cases the shooter has to claim that the "assailant" was terrifiyingly brown Orrex May 2024 #32
More like a gang of thoughts. Dude sounds paranoid. littlemissmartypants May 2024 #36
"his" car?? are you saying the owner did not know what his own car looked like before he riversedge May 2024 #39
He had every opportunity to asses the situation but chose not to, and from that Torchlight May 2024 #42
Guys like this spend a lot of time fantasizing about being able to shoot people with impunity. sop May 2024 #29
I don't spend all that money on guitars just so I can look at 'em. Iggo May 2024 #41
Our "well-regulated militia" again.... NM Grins May 2024 #33
Thoughts now qualify as proof of fact? littlemissmartypants May 2024 #35
Quick! Have the case tried in TX so Abbot can pardon you. keithbvadu2 May 2024 #40
He feared for his life. budkin May 2024 #43

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
16. Having a gun doesn't prevent one from catching bullets.
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:06 PM
May 2024

But they ain’t tryna hear that.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
4. Babcock's actions are becoming more and more a standard
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:22 PM
May 2024

And less and less a 'worst-case scenario.'

Later, when questioned by police, Babcock said he grabbed his gun when his Ring camera alerted him to a stranger on the property.

But instead of asking questions, Babcock said he assumed the delivery driver was breaking into his vehicle, so he opened fire.




Gonna guess this guy has often said, "but I eat everything afterwards, and never waste anything after I kill it for entertainment"
 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
6. Why did it take a grand jury to charge him properly?
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:28 PM
May 2024

What's up with the county atty? Weird.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
37. It's a paperwork thing.
Wed May 22, 2024, 06:25 PM
May 2024

First of all, the charges at time of arrest are often not the same as what grand juries indict for. The arrest charges are to get the accused into the system, get the paperwork going.

After that, the prosecuting attorney will usually wait for the police to finish an investigation before filing a full set of charges. If a prosecutor needs a grand jury to take a case to court, there's no sense doubling up on paperwork. Present what charges you think might fly for an indictment to the GJ, and let them decide what the trial will be about.

lindysalsagal

(22,916 posts)
7. I'll say it: shooter white, victim big floppy afro
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:56 PM
May 2024

Last edited Wed May 22, 2024, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Not sure how dark his skin is, or appeared at the time, but the afro might have been enough to spark the shooting on a racial basis.

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
8. Geeze, how does he react when they screw up his order?
Wed May 22, 2024, 04:05 PM
May 2024

You better not have forgotten the crazy bread this time, mother******!!!! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!

erronis

(23,882 posts)
21. I'll bet he doesn't order pizza from them. No telling what special toppings will be added.
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:26 PM
May 2024

I wouldn't want to suggest the specials such as "Microscopic Ground Tuscan Glass" or "Our own salmon sauce - Ella."

peppertree

(23,344 posts)
18. Yeah. When you're glued to some loudmouth on the radio yelling about how "they're coming to get everything you own!"
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:21 PM
May 2024

You tend to get a little antsy.

Jim__

(15,222 posts)
12. Is Tennessee a stand your ground state? If so, I have to wonder how the jury will rule.
Wed May 22, 2024, 04:50 PM
May 2024

Gun crime in the US is completely insane.

JohnnyRingo

(20,872 posts)
25. Even in stand your ground states you can't execute someone for breaking in your truck
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:53 PM
May 2024

You yourself has to feel threatened. Otherwise, UPS drivers would have to wear body armor.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
30. Especially if it isnt even your vehicle....
Wed May 22, 2024, 06:05 PM
May 2024

What are the odds these two had the same make, model and color, and his wife took his without telling him?

I'd say about zero percent.

Plus that dominoes pizza sign on the roof kinda gave it away.

Oneironaut

(6,300 posts)
14. Gun nuts think society is a John Wayne movie.
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:02 PM
May 2024

“You gotta be ready to draw yer pistol at a moments notice when marauders attack. Yeehaw!”

IronLionZion

(51,271 posts)
15. The solution to this problem is more guns, obviously
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:05 PM
May 2024

The delivery guy was wearing a Domino's uniform and carrying the insulated pizza bag, which can appear threatening to someone who is very paranoid, possibly racist, and has a gun. Heavily armed and stupid is no way to go through life.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
17. Seven shots and the best he could do is one shot nearly hit Wheeler?
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:09 PM
May 2024

Was he missing on purpose, drunk, or incompetent with a gun?

The lack of a sign on his truck is a valid complaint for the driver against Domino's.

JohnnyRingo

(20,872 posts)
23. He emptied the gun!!!
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:47 PM
May 2024

He could see there was no threat, but wasn't going to quit until he was out of ammo.
"Asshole" doesn't even begin to describe this guy. Fortunately, he should never be allowed to own a gun again.

Don't think he'll be able to order pizza ever again either. haha

Diraven

(1,904 posts)
24. Tennessee has a stand your ground law
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:50 PM
May 2024

Saying he was afraid his car was being broken into at his his home is enough to justify lethal force there. He won't be convicted.

Orrex

(67,115 posts)
27. No one is more terrified than a white male gun owner
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:57 PM
May 2024

To preempt the inevitable "not all white male gun owners" responses, let's stipulate that I'm talking about KKKonservatives.

JohnnyRingo

(20,872 posts)
28. Are you sure of that?
Wed May 22, 2024, 05:58 PM
May 2024

You'd think there'd be a lot of dead UPS drivers.
My understanding of SYG is that if you feel threatened you don't have to attempt escape.
The idea is if you're getting your ass kicked by a gang of toughs, you don't have to run away, even if they aren't armed. Stand your ground.

Of course this is Tennessee, so maybe it's like a 007 license to kill for any reason.

littlemissmartypants

(33,647 posts)
36. More like a gang of thoughts. Dude sounds paranoid.
Wed May 22, 2024, 06:24 PM
May 2024

He's clearly a danger to others and to himself by default due to his reckless gunslinging.

Good grief.

riversedge

(80,814 posts)
39. "his" car?? are you saying the owner did not know what his own car looked like before he
Wed May 22, 2024, 06:28 PM
May 2024

opened fire??

Reckless endangerment at the very least IMHO.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
42. He had every opportunity to asses the situation but chose not to, and from that
Wed May 22, 2024, 09:06 PM
May 2024

based the entirety of his actions and those action's consequences on the phrase "I assumed..." Closed doors, electronic surveillance, not his truck, yet he still manages to responds with a magnitudinal fuck up far beyond any normal, reasonable, rational measure.

That pretty much shoots in the back any good-faith arguments he might otherwise make.

sop

(18,626 posts)
29. Guys like this spend a lot of time fantasizing about being able to shoot people with impunity.
Wed May 22, 2024, 06:03 PM
May 2024

For many of them it's the real reason they own guns.

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
41. I don't spend all that money on guitars just so I can look at 'em.
Wed May 22, 2024, 09:00 PM
May 2024

I imagine Gunfuckers are about the same.

littlemissmartypants

(33,647 posts)
35. Thoughts now qualify as proof of fact?
Wed May 22, 2024, 06:20 PM
May 2024

I can think you are going to or are...and don't have to levy proof?

The pizza was not close to the perp's auto, I'll wager.

I wonder what the punishment will actually be for this gun nut?

Anyone willing to look up the charges?

They should throw a mandatory psychological assessment in there. The perpetrator sounds paranoid. Isn't mental health the going concern regarding gun violence these days?

Story with video of the victim here:
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/it-is-attempted-murder-in-my-opinion-young-pizza-delivery-driver-shot-at-7-times-after-driveway-mix-up

Information on the location here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheatham_County,_Tennessee

Poor, kid! I hope he gets justice.

❤️pants

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