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Senator Durban says no to hearings on Alito? (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater May 2024 OP
Any explanation? n/t SheilaAnn May 2024 #1
Hearings on what? TexasDem69 May 2024 #2
The flags at his house and summer house Eliot Rosewater May 2024 #3
We can't do anything at this point. Demsrule86 May 2024 #4
A "hearing" on Alito's flag preferences TexasDem69 May 2024 #6
Yeah, you're right. What was Eliot Rosewater May 2024 #12
I guess we just throw the rule of law by the wayside? TexasDem69 May 2024 #15
We would NOT be throwing out the rule of law by having hearings! You can give up; I and most Dems are NOT! tableturner May 2024 #17
A supreme court justice can absolutely never do anything like that Tribetime May 2024 #14
This is the approach that has caused Republican messaging to beat ours, even when we are right! tableturner May 2024 #16
Wrong. This is a justice of the Supreme Court budkin May 2024 #18
What's the point ? kacekwl May 2024 #5
Okay...just give up! Sheesh... tableturner May 2024 #19
We need to do it to draw attention to it budkin May 2024 #20
Link? NT Patton French May 2024 #7
Wasn't that hard to find, not sure why you didn't Google it yourself Eliot Rosewater May 2024 #8
I'm in the middle of grilling and preparing dinner for a bunch of rising seniors. Patton French May 2024 #9
All good Eliot Rosewater May 2024 #10
Simply unacceptable budkin May 2024 #11
Thank you, and I'm afraid the mainstream of our party in power Eliot Rosewater May 2024 #13
 

TexasDem69

(2,317 posts)
6. A "hearing" on Alito's flag preferences
Thu May 23, 2024, 09:17 PM
May 2024

Is fundamentally inconsistent with what Democrats should support, namely freedom of speech. Holding a hearing because Alito displayed flags that supported Trump or the insurrection smacks of McCarthyism to me. Democrats would rightly lose their minds if Congress held a hearing about a flag one of the liberal justices displayed at her private residence.

And even if a hearing wasn’t completely inappropriate, what’s the point? There’s zero chance Alito is impeached so this would just be wasting money and time that could be spent elsewhere.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,231 posts)
12. Yeah, you're right. What was
Thu May 23, 2024, 09:55 PM
May 2024

I thinking, we don’t need to do everything in our power to make sure the rest of the country realizes Supreme Court justices are part of the stop the steal movement, we aren’t in a severe, urgent, emergency situation where we are going to lose our democracy, we don’t need to make a lot of noise to make sure everybody knows what’s going on.



Either Democratic politicians start making tremendous noise at every opportunity and show fight to that half of the country that sees no reason to bother to vote or we are going to lose it all guaranteed.

We are months away from what the GOP has said we’ll be a united Reich or a new Nazi party. If we don’t see that now, then Jesus fucking Christ.

 

TexasDem69

(2,317 posts)
15. I guess we just throw the rule of law by the wayside?
Thu May 23, 2024, 10:07 PM
May 2024

Because we don’t like Trump or his supporters. No thanks. If you want to hold Congressional hearings because a Supreme Court justice flew a flag you dislike you’ll find no support from me. That’s exactly the sort of thing Trump would do. It’s pointless and unbecoming of Democrats. It’s the sort of abuse of power we should condemn, not condone.

tableturner

(1,739 posts)
17. We would NOT be throwing out the rule of law by having hearings! You can give up; I and most Dems are NOT!
Thu May 23, 2024, 10:34 PM
May 2024

tableturner

(1,739 posts)
16. This is the approach that has caused Republican messaging to beat ours, even when we are right!
Thu May 23, 2024, 10:31 PM
May 2024

This is how we let Republicans turn an almost nothing, or an actual nothing, into something big, while our surrogates turn something that is actually big into a nothing...because of messaging (or a lack thereof)...which is why we often lose the argument even when the facts are on our side.

Dick Durban's saying there is no point to holding hearings about Alito because he says there is nothing to be gained from that. There IS something to be gained from that!

If we did what the GOP does so often to make a nothing burger an actual issue in the minds of too many voters (and OUR issue in this case is legitimately a BIG issue), that would not only put pressure on the Court, but would also serve at least to some extent to inform low information voters about this, in lieu of their picking it up on their own, which many of them will not do. And THAT would add more pressure. We not only should push hearings, but Democratic surrogates should also be flooding the airwaves slamming Alito and the Court with the same zeal and alacrity as the GOP always does with their PHONY issues!

And don't forget: all of this will help our election prospects by clearly making our correct argument to the voters, but appeasement will most definitely NOT!

And it has NOTHING to do with McCarthyism! It has EVERYTHING to do with a guy who is a Supreme Court justice who is openly supporting the coup! My God! What more do you need?

How about we learn from the GOP? The approach shown in the post I am replying to is why we lose too often even when we are right! Some of you will blast me. I don't care. I'm tired of our passive efforts allowing scummy right-wing extremists to make progress that we could easily defeat if we fought hard!

budkin

(6,849 posts)
18. Wrong. This is a justice of the Supreme Court
Thu May 23, 2024, 10:36 PM
May 2024

They are not supposed to have an obvious political bias, nor should they be flying flags that openly support said bias while they are ruling on related cases.

kacekwl

(7,313 posts)
5. What's the point ?
Thu May 23, 2024, 08:45 PM
May 2024

We can't get rid of a treasonous criminal rapist former president running for president again no way we can rid ourselves of a SCJ.

budkin

(6,849 posts)
20. We need to do it to draw attention to it
Thu May 23, 2024, 10:39 PM
May 2024

Alito is literally flying his political bias in our faces.

Patton French

(1,055 posts)
9. I'm in the middle of grilling and preparing dinner for a bunch of rising seniors.
Thu May 23, 2024, 09:42 PM
May 2024

I’m truly sorry if I offended you.

budkin

(6,849 posts)
11. Simply unacceptable
Thu May 23, 2024, 09:52 PM
May 2024

This fascist needs to be hauled in front of the judiciary committee NOW. If Durbin doesn’t have the balls, then he needs to step down and let someone who does take over.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,231 posts)
13. Thank you, and I'm afraid the mainstream of our party in power
Thu May 23, 2024, 09:58 PM
May 2024

Still thinks this is the old days and that they have to act that way, and it is the death of us for certain.

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