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malaise

(296,821 posts)
Fri May 24, 2024, 12:34 PM May 2024

There is something seriously fucked up about M$Greedia presenting

the made up Hunter Biden bullshit as if it were comparable to Smelvis’ criminality and as if Hunter Biden is the US President.

In fact it is beyond fucked up when you think of the Trump family’s suspect financial dealing with the planet.

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There is something seriously fucked up about M$Greedia presenting (Original Post) malaise May 2024 OP
Very much so. 2naSalit May 2024 #1
And then there's Ana Cabrera: "Smelvis wanted to testify, but 'relented' to his lawyers to not testify" AnotherMother4Peace May 2024 #2
THI# malaise May 2024 #11
... but she photographs well... calimary May 2024 #14
suggestion...no MSNBC before 4:00 est.. agingdem May 2024 #21
Or tune to BBC World Service News. mwooldri May 2024 #33
I'd like to hear from Lanny Davis. triron May 2024 #3
Huge corporations do not give a shit about democracy Voltaire2 May 2024 #4
beyond indifferent Paul-EM May 2024 #10
They would think differently Mr.Bill May 2024 #17
Oops. Paul-EM May 2024 #20
You wouldn't believe my learning curve when I started. card-carrying Luddite! Evolve Dammit May 2024 #35
Nailed it malaise May 2024 #12
bothsiderism RANDYWILDMAN May 2024 #5
If it were anyone else Bettie May 2024 #6
I am out right now so can't link but read Empty Wheel Bev54 May 2024 #7
Will find it malaise May 2024 #13
Many recent EmptyWheel posts - all excellent. erronis May 2024 #37
Yes it appears she is one of the only who is fully covering the Hunter Biden story, not just Bev54 May 2024 #38
It is so hard, and perhaps purposefully so, to follow the webs they weave. erronis May 2024 #40
Yes her and Heather and Allison Gill is another. I wish I had the ability to put pieces in place like she does. Bev54 May 2024 #41
k and r BoRaGard May 2024 #8
Recommended. H2O Man May 2024 #9
Absolutely this!! Perfect analogy. MontanaMama May 2024 #15
Nailed it malaise May 2024 #22
The gorge rises. It remains to be seen if the walls of the aortae will hold, Captain, jaxexpat May 2024 #16
One of the great Melville malaise May 2024 #24
Not Melville. NanaCat May 2024 #32
Good spot malaise May 2024 #34
K&R Hiawatha Pete May 2024 #18
Kick oasis May 2024 #19
This bothsideserism false equivalency has been McGeedia's go-to horseshit Bundbuster May 2024 #23
It's sickening malaise May 2024 #25
That fucking M$M has really outdone itself with the whole tRump disaster Blue Owl May 2024 #26
Get thee to the front pages of all media! GreenWave May 2024 #27
Uh, yes. malthaussen May 2024 #28
Sad but true malaise May 2024 #42
I'm sure someone from a borough of New York will be along soon FoxNewsSucks May 2024 #29
Ugh Lemon Lyman May 2024 #30
ONE MILLION PERCENT spanone May 2024 #31
What I can't figure out - can't the journalists involved actually LOOK AHEAD a teeny, teeny bit RandomNumbers May 2024 #36
Apparently they will morph into whatever is reqyured malaise May 2024 #43
See if they report on Russian disinformationists' role during trial. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #39

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,157 posts)
2. And then there's Ana Cabrera: "Smelvis wanted to testify, but 'relented' to his lawyers to not testify"
Fri May 24, 2024, 01:08 PM
May 2024

Paraphrased (the Smelvis was mine). No MSNBC Ana, Smelvis DIDN'T want to testify, had no intention to testify, was SCARED to testify - He did not relent to his lawyers. That was him blaming others and that's YOU parroting his bullshit. Get a clue.

agingdem

(8,914 posts)
21. suggestion...no MSNBC before 4:00 est..
Fri May 24, 2024, 03:19 PM
May 2024

Mitchell/Tur/Cabrera/Jansing...Mitchell..rambling non-sensical questions...Tur..deep concern for Trump's "feelings"...Cabrera...bad for Biden/good for Trump garbage...Jansing..both-sides-do-it bullshit...

and when Ari Melber does his rap schtick, hit mute button...






mwooldri

(10,820 posts)
33. Or tune to BBC World Service News.
Sat May 25, 2024, 04:54 AM
May 2024

Go a whole day without hearing the words "Donald Trump" together. You will hear some important news that comes out of the United States but not about the dog and pony show that is DJT.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
4. Huge corporations do not give a shit about democracy
Fri May 24, 2024, 01:19 PM
May 2024

all they care about is ever increasing profits.

Paul-EM

(34 posts)
10. beyond indifferent
Fri May 24, 2024, 02:28 PM
May 2024

To me, corporations go beyond not giving a shit about democracy or indifference to democracy. Corporations are outright hostile to democracy because democracy involves regulation, oversight, an orientation toward the public good, etc.

Evolve Dammit

(21,798 posts)
35. You wouldn't believe my learning curve when I started. card-carrying Luddite!
Sat May 25, 2024, 07:00 AM
May 2024

Welcome to DU! I still have issues.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,166 posts)
5. bothsiderism
Fri May 24, 2024, 01:23 PM
May 2024

is alive and profitable. I hate this crap
Trump and his family are true losers. Hunter is not great but not really any worse then Roger Clinton.

Billy Carter
Neil Bush
Jeb Bush
Jared Kushner
Eric and JR Trump
real potential financial crimes and should have been taken much more seriously then they were

Hunter
Roger Clinton
Not great people but not hurting anybody with the crap they did. More embarrassing than anything else

Bettie

(19,780 posts)
6. If it were anyone else
Fri May 24, 2024, 01:23 PM
May 2024

they'd be screaming about the gun charge.

And he paid his taxes and the fine, which is more than most Republicans would do.

Bev54

(13,462 posts)
7. I am out right now so can't link but read Empty Wheel
Fri May 24, 2024, 01:58 PM
May 2024

This am article. There is some real ratfuckery going on with the prosecutors. The form for the gun has 3 different colours of ink and writings, that it should be thrown out. Others filled in areas after it went to ATF.

erronis

(24,064 posts)
37. Many recent EmptyWheel posts - all excellent.
Sat May 25, 2024, 09:56 AM
May 2024

I don't know how she does it but she (and many of the great commentators) uncover all sorts of BS.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/05/24/derek-hines-disappearing-three-colors-of-ink/
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/05/22/david-weiss-maintains-he-can-use-hunter-bidens-diversion-statements-at-failed-plea-hearing/
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/05/22/leo-wise-aspires-to-the-be-the-james-comer-of-john-durhams/

EmptyWheel has been all over this for many months. Hard to follow all the twists that the prosecution (US Gov't) is making to try to nail Hunter Biden.

Bev54

(13,462 posts)
38. Yes it appears she is one of the only who is fully covering the Hunter Biden story, not just
Sat May 25, 2024, 11:37 AM
May 2024

occasional articles like most media who just gloss over the real facts of this case. I cherish Marcy and Empty Wheel, she is a treasure for her research and facts and common sense. She really should be read by all, because so many people do not know the facts of this case and others and therefore themselves spout misinformation. This includes Marcy's facts of the DOJ investigations and Garland's work that so many discount as do nothing but she has the facts that are all in public but scattered, she brings them together so we can see the full picture. She absolutely called the Durham cases and provided the proof for her assessments. She is concerned that with Hunter Biden's two Trump appointed Judges, he may well be found guilty but likely will be overturned on appeal.

erronis

(24,064 posts)
40. It is so hard, and perhaps purposefully so, to follow the webs they weave.
Sat May 25, 2024, 12:23 PM
May 2024

As some have remarked, she must have a huge whiteboard covered with notes and colored threads. But still, bringing this all together in cogent articles is amazing. Her and Heather Cox Richardson.

Bev54

(13,462 posts)
41. Yes her and Heather and Allison Gill is another. I wish I had the ability to put pieces in place like she does.
Sat May 25, 2024, 12:48 PM
May 2024

Even Abbe Lowell is following her and has mentioned her in one of his filings. I also get a lot of info in the comments section as many of her followers are lawyers.

H2O Man

(79,122 posts)
9. Recommended.
Fri May 24, 2024, 02:08 PM
May 2024

One won't find lobster at McDonald's. They don't serve that. Instead, they serve shit. The media tends to serve processed shit. There are a very few exceptions. I've always liked Lawrence, and think that he has been great this week at serving up serious journalism.

MontanaMama

(24,731 posts)
15. Absolutely this!! Perfect analogy.
Fri May 24, 2024, 02:40 PM
May 2024

MSM is, for the most part, like McDonald's, is shit. They happily serve it disguised as facts and hope we come back for more. What a racket.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
16. The gorge rises. It remains to be seen if the walls of the aortae will hold, Captain,
Fri May 24, 2024, 02:41 PM
May 2024

"we've done all we can, and I don't know how much longer she'll stay together, engine room out."

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
32. Not Melville.
Sat May 25, 2024, 04:39 AM
May 2024

The 'engine-room' part gives it away, because the Pequod in Moby Dick was a sailing vessel, not engine-powered.

The quote is from Star Trek. Scotty was always whinging about the beating the Enterprise would take whenever Kirk wanted to do some outlandish maneuvre.

Bundbuster

(4,018 posts)
23. This bothsideserism false equivalency has been McGeedia's go-to horseshit
Fri May 24, 2024, 04:38 PM
May 2024

since the rise of Limpballs, if not before. And hordes of murcans are still buying it.



Blue Owl

(59,292 posts)
26. That fucking M$M has really outdone itself with the whole tRump disaster
Fri May 24, 2024, 05:01 PM
May 2024

Still trying to portray that morally and financially bankrupt fat fuck loser as some kind of legitimate contender -- please, you motherfuckers, give it a rest already!

malthaussen

(18,589 posts)
28. Uh, yes.
Fri May 24, 2024, 10:17 PM
May 2024

In fact, it's sort of awesome. They have totally given up the appearance of impartiality, and really do seem to be rooting for a Fascist dictatorship. It's almost like the news sources are, I dunno, owned by billionaires or something.

-- Mal

FoxNewsSucks

(11,790 posts)
29. I'm sure someone from a borough of New York will be along soon
Fri May 24, 2024, 10:33 PM
May 2024

to remind us why corporate establishment media is always right. And we should always "baaaah" while lining up behind them.

Always.



.....or is it....

spanone

(141,808 posts)
31. ONE MILLION PERCENT
Sat May 25, 2024, 12:11 AM
May 2024

They are disgraceful.
They know this is nothing but ratfucking Hunter Biden/Joe Biden.
They have no shame.

RandomNumbers

(19,200 posts)
36. What I can't figure out - can't the journalists involved actually LOOK AHEAD a teeny, teeny bit
Sat May 25, 2024, 09:40 AM
May 2024

and imagine what is going to happen to them - or at least their careers - if Trump wins? What decent journalist would want to continue openly in their profession under the "new reich" that Trump promises?

There's a chilling thought lurking there. As it gets closer to the election, do some of the heretofore reasonably sane (-ish) and decent (-ish) journalists decide to cave to what they perceive to be their best interests?

Kid Berwyn

(24,675 posts)
39. See if they report on Russian disinformationists' role during trial.
Sat May 25, 2024, 11:49 AM
May 2024
Former U.S. spies warned in 2020 that the Hunter Biden scandal had Russian fingerprints. They feel vindicated now.

The Justice Department said this week that informant Alexander Smirnov invented a story about $5 million bribes paid to Joe and Hunter Biden and is also "peddling new lies."


by Ken Dilanian
NBC News, February 24, 2024

The Justice Department’s assertions this week that a longtime FBI informant was seeking to “spread misinformation” designed to hurt President Joe Biden after speaking to Russian intelligence operatives has put a new spotlight on an old debate:

To what extent, if any, has the Russian government manufactured or amplified unproven allegations of corrupt Ukraine dealings by Joe and Hunter Biden?

In a request to revoke his bail, prosecutors said that former informant Alexander Smirnov, charged last week with lying to the FBI in 2020 when he said Joe Biden had received a $5 million bribe, “is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections after meeting with Russian intelligence officials” as recently as last fall.

The allegation that Smirnov was spreading new falsehoods about Joe Biden with an election looming hearkened back to an episode from the 2020 election, when the question of whether Russian spies were trying to smear Joe Biden was first raised.

Derogatory information, purportedly from Hunter Biden’s laptop, had surfaced in a New York Post article. Soon afterward, 51 former intelligence officials signed and blasted to the media a letter warning that the laptop story “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

Continues…

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/former-us-spies-warned-2020-hunter-biden-scandal-russian-fingerprints-rcna140240
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