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NickB79

(19,555 posts)
Fri May 24, 2024, 07:52 PM May 2024

Three years of high temperatures will mean we have breached 1.5C

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2432614-three-years-of-high-temperatures-will-mean-we-have-breached-1-5c/

Three individual years of high global average temperatures will be enough for scientists to conclude the 1.5°C climate goal is lost, a new analysis reveals.

In the 2015 Paris Agreement, almost every nation in the world signed up to an international treaty promising to limit any rise in global average temperatures to “well below” 2°C above pre-industrial levels, and to aim for just 1.5°C of warming.
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0rganism

(24,527 posts)
2. It's already too late to avoid suffering direct consequences
Fri May 24, 2024, 08:26 PM
May 2024

I hope there's a global brain trust working on mitigation strategies for population displacement and geo-engineering to actively lower temps before the biosphere fries, although that doesn't seem to be a priority for the privileged. Maybe they think they're set up to prosper in the coming chaotic catastrophes, and maybe some are correct to think so.

The coming disaster and its causes need to be incredibly well-studied and documented so dominant species of the future don't make the same mistakes.

Shermann

(8,528 posts)
3. The only way to study the future is through simulations.
Fri May 24, 2024, 08:33 PM
May 2024

Even though much of the world's advanced technologies have been developed using simulations, when they run counter to your business agenda, they tend to be brushed off.

0rganism

(24,527 posts)
6. I think we'll get to study some relevant parts of what's currently called the future up close & personal
Fri May 24, 2024, 08:42 PM
May 2024

So far there's been a fair bit of "red finch" analysis and gaslighting of large population segments. I hope that, too, will be documented thoroughly.

cachukis

(2,515 posts)
4. Sadly, the economy of consumption will only
Fri May 24, 2024, 08:38 PM
May 2024

slow down when there are fewer consumers. The societies with little consumption, over all, will pay the price first, but that will be a sidebar, as the monied consumers will outsmart the rest of us.

Igel

(35,995 posts)
5. Does that mean they all think we die?
Fri May 24, 2024, 08:41 PM
May 2024

Of out self-interest and self-compassion, shouldn't the true believers take steps to mitigate their inevitable painful end?

I mean, that would be a big step to reducing carbon emissions. Imagine the reduction in air traffic to conferences and lectures by those saying to avoid air flights.

Or perhaps we should examine the models, the data, and how humanity can adjust to what's going to happen within the lifetime of our young-adult kids--those who have young-adult kids. (By "young-adult," I mean 18-29 years of age as of late May 2024.)

Dunno. I'm not an advocate or climate scientist. I'm just a chemist/physicist/linguist/violinist who's heard prognostications of imminent doom since I was a freshman in high school. Peak oil and famine. Overpopulation, over a billion dead in the '80s. The "Jupiter effect." Was insanely convinced to use my pitiful allowance and grocery-store stocker minimum wage to be a "survivalist," like 20 lbs of wheat and 20-30 lbs of other dehydrated foodstuffs would have lasted me and my parents for the years of privation expected. (Note that survivalists were (R), other others, (D) or (I)--idiotic party.) Then nuclear war, depression, fascism, internment camps for "libs", fascism, more "internment camps", more nuclear war. For a while we were going to ship many soldiers off to fight Iran. When? "It's set, next Monday." Then, Tuesday, "They learned we knew--so it's effing next ****Tue!sday!**!*." Rinse, repeat. And internment camps, oddly labeled in Croatian.

Go class of '77. While I await the apocalypse, I have a feline overlord to pet, a toxic substance that needs metabolic neutralizing (ethanol solution, dubbed "vodka" ), and mindless pablum to consume starring 30-something pretending to be 20 years old (and failing badly) while I learn WTH "half-double herringbone crochet" and "moss stitch" could possibly mean. Hey, I'm sure Butker half-double crochets and slip-stiches all the time.

NickB79

(19,555 posts)
7. People are already skipping children due to what's coming
Fri May 24, 2024, 10:57 PM
May 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/20/climate-change-affects-53percent-of-parents-decision-to-have-more-kids.html

53% of parents in India, Mexico, Singapore, the United States and the United Kingdom say climate change impacts their decision to have more kids.
The effects parents are particularly concerned about include rising temperatures (62%), water shortages (51%), sea levels changing (43%), and large weather events (43%).
Parents also said that they consider climate and sustainability in product choices and commitment to an employer.


But feel free to dismiss what the vast majority of the world's climate experts are saying. Maybe you can buy some coastal property in the meantime, a condo in Florida perhaps.

WarGamer

(14,926 posts)
9. controlling global emissions was always fantasy.
Sat May 25, 2024, 01:14 AM
May 2024

Hockey stick, baby... palm trees in Antarctica by 2100.


We finally really did it ... You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"

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