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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLibertarian convention attendee:
I don't know what Trump was thinking coming to our convention. I could tell he was frustrated, he's never had a crowd of people like us. He absolutely deserved all of that hate for being a warmonger, the lockdown policies, not ending the deep state, printing trillions, and being just an overall liar. He absolutely will not get any votes from us.
Link to tweet
FalloutShelter
(14,707 posts)Dont tell me what to do crowd.
peppertree
(23,546 posts)Although they certainly wouldn't want to live under his "Mileise"...
https://buenosairesherald.com/business/argentinas-economy-shows-sharp-declines-across-the-board-as-parallel-pesos-weaken
snowybirdie
(6,766 posts)the incompetence of his campaign. Usually speeches and audiences are heavily vetted and the campaign knows exactly who the candidate is addressing.
magicarpet
(19,525 posts)... since 2016 and 2020.
He lost a lot of voters who died from trDUMP's Covid fuck up fiasco too.
The Libertarian voting block in trDUMP's column would be a big plus to replace the Never-trDUMPer voters lost.
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From the Guardian,
Donald Trump, the former US president, has suffered the rare humiliation of getting booed and heckled during a raucous speech to the Libertarian National Convention.
Trumps rocky ride at a Washington hotel on Saturday night, including cries of Bullshit! and Fuck you!, underlined the challenge that the Republican presidential nominee faces to broaden his appeal both left and right on the political spectrum.
More at link below,
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/26/no-wannabe-dictators-donald-trump-booed-at-libertarian-convention
hatrack
(65,308 posts)Kind of like a bonus - Elvis Hitler gets mocked and the Koch Party splits again.
TxGuitar
(4,372 posts)hatrack
(65,308 posts)Ocelot II
(131,660 posts)There's an overlap with the GOP on the Libertarians' objections to economic regulation and social welfare, but Libertarians oppose almost all government regulation - very much in opposition to the GOP's and especially Trump's authoritarianism with respect to just about everything. Trump is all for government regulation when he's the government.
maxrandb
(17,535 posts)as long as they get to pick the regulations and authoritarians.
Libertarians understand that authoritarians are good as long as they are on your side.
They have just never understood, that from the Greeks, to the Romans, to the Nazis, to the United Russia Party, to the Retrumplicans, they NEVER stay on your side for long.
magicarpet
(19,525 posts)... during his visiting speech at the Libertarian convention.
trDUMP had his goon squads storm the Libertarian convention with Young Republicans and extreme MAGA cult followers al la Brooks Brothers style. Team trDUMP inundated the Libertarian audience and tried to push them in the background so trDUMP's goons had front row seats to cheer trDUMP on all during his speech to this audience.
The Libertarians were having none of that Fascist garbage. Because of the aggressive behavior of the Young ReThugs and the MAGA cult goons to take over and over power the Libertarian convention - rather than win over the Libertarians as potential 2024 voters the Libertarians now hate trDUMP and his goon squad even more.
One thing about ReThug Fascists,... they always,.. always,.. over play the hand they have been dealt,.. and incessantly use tough guy tactics to strong arm their Fascist ways.
Often they are astoundingly insulting and offensive - ultimately flopping and failing in the end.
Rank and naked selfishness often explodes in your face - alpha macho male trDUMP goons are slow in the uptake when it comes to that reality.
RandomNumbers
(19,290 posts)these people:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218977956
... specifically, at least, on the subject of Trump being a warmonger vs. "more peaceful than Biden."
lonely bird
(3,097 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,290 posts)lonely bird
(3,097 posts)I meant to post what I posted the second time. Sigh. I need a diet caffeine free Pepsi.
lonely bird
(3,097 posts)They are just different kinds of stupid.
ProfessorGAC
(77,554 posts)Libertarianism requires a willingness to believe that simple theoretical concepts apply to highly complex systems with many interactive variables.
It's not X therefore Y. It's this bunch of X's result in Y and exactly how is not simple.
Also, the Pollyanna view that "survival of the fittest" is somehow compatible with the "invisible hand" is blindingly stupid.
hay rick
(9,790 posts)His complaints:
He absolutely deserved all of that hate for being a warmonger, the lockdown policies, not ending the deep state, printing trillions, and being just an overall liar.
warmonger: no defense of Ukraine?
lockdown policies: shout out to anti-vax and herd immunity.
deep state: clean air, safe water, crime prevention...
printing trillions: completed the Lego economic model with no leftover pieces in the bag.
and the lies
no_hypocrisy
(55,608 posts)reACTIONary
(7,377 posts).... He's right! They would have gone straight for Poland!
Skittles
(173,454 posts)just the kind of people who usually loves them some Donald Fucking Trump