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kpete

(72,904 posts)
Sun May 26, 2024, 09:33 AM May 2024

Libertarian convention attendee:

“I don't know what Trump was thinking coming to our convention. I could tell he was frustrated, he's never had a crowd of people like us. He absolutely deserved all of that hate for being a warmonger, the lockdown policies, not ending the deep state, printing trillions, and being just an overall liar. He absolutely will not get any votes from us.”


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FalloutShelter

(14,631 posts)
1. No kidding. He is the LAST candidate to appeal to the
Sun May 26, 2024, 09:41 AM
May 2024

“Don’t tell me what to do” crowd.

snowybirdie

(6,750 posts)
2. This shows
Sun May 26, 2024, 09:55 AM
May 2024

the incompetence of his campaign. Usually speeches and audiences are heavily vetted and the campaign knows exactly who the candidate is addressing.

magicarpet

(19,422 posts)
3. trDUMP is desperate to replace the Never-trDUMPers he lost,...
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:12 AM
May 2024

... since 2016 and 2020.

He lost a lot of voters who died from trDUMP's Covid fuck up fiasco too.

The Libertarian voting block in trDUMP's column would be a big plus to replace the Never-trDUMPer voters lost.

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From the Guardian,

Donald Trump, the former US president, has suffered the rare humiliation of getting booed and heckled during a raucous speech to the Libertarian National Convention.

Trump’s rocky ride at a Washington hotel on Saturday night, including cries of “Bullshit!” and “Fuck you!”, underlined the challenge that the Republican presidential nominee faces to broaden his appeal both left and right on the political spectrum.

More at link below,

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/26/no-wannabe-dictators-donald-trump-booed-at-libertarian-convention

hatrack

(65,149 posts)
4. Could this lead to (shocked intake of breath) friction w/i the Libertarians?!?!?
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:15 AM
May 2024

Kind of like a bonus - Elvis Hitler gets mocked and the Koch Party splits again.

Ocelot II

(131,242 posts)
5. Which of Trump's "best people" thought this was a good idea?
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:31 AM
May 2024

There's an overlap with the GOP on the Libertarians' objections to economic regulation and social welfare, but Libertarians oppose almost all government regulation - very much in opposition to the GOP's and especially Trump's authoritarianism with respect to just about everything. Trump is all for government regulation when he's the government.

maxrandb

(17,500 posts)
8. Oh, Libertarians believe in "gubmint regulation" and "authoritarianism" alright
Sun May 26, 2024, 11:11 AM
May 2024

as long as they get to pick the regulations and authoritarians.


Libertarians understand that authoritarians are good as long as they are on your side.

They have just never understood, that from the Greeks, to the Romans, to the Nazis, to the United Russia Party, to the Retrumplicans, they NEVER stay on your side for long.

magicarpet

(19,422 posts)
6. trDUMP used the old Roger Stone playbook
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:51 AM
May 2024

... during his visiting speech at the Libertarian convention.

trDUMP had his goon squads storm the Libertarian convention with Young Republicans and extreme MAGA cult followers al la Brooks Brothers style. Team trDUMP inundated the Libertarian audience and tried to push them in the background so trDUMP's goons had front row seats to cheer trDUMP on all during his speech to this audience.

The Libertarians were having none of that Fascist garbage. Because of the aggressive behavior of the Young ReThugs and the MAGA cult goons to take over and over power the Libertarian convention - rather than win over the Libertarians as potential 2024 voters the Libertarians now hate trDUMP and his goon squad even more.

One thing about ReThug Fascists,... they always,.. always,.. over play the hand they have been dealt,.. and incessantly use tough guy tactics to strong arm their Fascist ways.

Often they are astoundingly insulting and offensive - ultimately flopping and failing in the end.

Rank and naked selfishness often explodes in your face - alpha macho male trDUMP goons are slow in the uptake when it comes to that reality.

RandomNumbers

(19,263 posts)
7. For all the well-deserved derision of the Libertarian "platform", at least they are smarter than
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:55 AM
May 2024

these people:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218977956

... specifically, at least, on the subject of Trump being a warmonger vs. "more peaceful than Biden."

lonely bird

(3,035 posts)
14. Thanks
Sun May 26, 2024, 12:25 PM
May 2024

I meant to post what I posted the second time. Sigh. I need a diet caffeine free Pepsi.

ProfessorGAC

(77,291 posts)
19. I'm Going With Your Take
Sun May 26, 2024, 09:06 PM
May 2024

Libertarianism requires a willingness to believe that simple theoretical concepts apply to highly complex systems with many interactive variables.
It's not X therefore Y. It's this bunch of X's result in Y and exactly how is not simple.
Also, the Pollyanna view that "survival of the fittest" is somehow compatible with the "invisible hand" is blindingly stupid.

hay rick

(9,724 posts)
10. Libertarians, LOL. Moral bankruptcy without the lies.
Sun May 26, 2024, 12:20 PM
May 2024

His complaints:
He absolutely deserved all of that hate for being a warmonger, the lockdown policies, not ending the deep state, printing trillions, and being just an overall liar.

warmonger: no defense of Ukraine?
lockdown policies: shout out to anti-vax and herd immunity.
deep state: clean air, safe water, crime prevention...
printing trillions: completed the Lego economic model with no leftover pieces in the bag.

and the lies

reACTIONary

(7,300 posts)
17. With TSF, says one, "Russia would never have invaded Ukraine"....
Sun May 26, 2024, 02:18 PM
May 2024

.... He's right! They would have gone straight for Poland!

Skittles

(172,892 posts)
18. so essentially Libertarians are delusional assholes
Sun May 26, 2024, 08:54 PM
May 2024

just the kind of people who usually loves them some Donald Fucking Trump

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