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Richard Dreyfuss Slammed for Sexist, Transphobic Rant at 'Jaws' Screening (Original Post) edhopper May 2024 OP
brain worms. ForgoTheConsequence May 2024 #1
yeah, he's a product of his generation FirstLight May 2024 #2
Oh, please. That generation had plenty of incredible liberals too (who remained so) hlthe2b May 2024 #7
solid post and points..... democratsruletheday May 2024 #8
Plus, ehem, our current president. Misery Business May 2024 #30
You flipped Hawn and Russell's ages, and your list contains 2 different Gens (granted most are close in terms of birth) Celerity May 2024 #33
They are of the cohort that includes the a'hole mentioned. And I quickly googled and the ages were hlthe2b May 2024 #34
Their ages are their ages. It is not a thing up for debate. Celerity May 2024 #37
Did you google to prove to yourself that it was NOT my error despite your claim that it was? hlthe2b May 2024 #41
I never said you bothered me. This entire exchange is strange to me. Celerity May 2024 #43
Give it a fuckin rest. Brenda Jun 2024 #47
Ageism isn't nice. Oopsie Daisy May 2024 #32
He hasn't had a movie career in at least 15 years FakeNoose May 2024 #3
He might not have had a leading man role NanaCat May 2024 #22
Yeeeesh. TSExile May 2024 #4
It has gotten to the point... Think. Again. May 2024 #5
Ah a Stupid Blow Hard Bigot.. Idiot. Cha May 2024 #6
said he "didn't listen to her because she is a woman and women shouldn't have that power." Bundbuster May 2024 #16
ONe of those most Idiotic utterances Cha May 2024 #18
Honestly, based on descriptions angrychair May 2024 #42
Damn he's made some good movies. What a shitty person. mjvpi May 2024 #9
I found it to be very sexist even at the time. spooky3 May 2024 #27
How bizarre: "Dreyfuss--who was clad in a housedress and waving a cane" Incanus May 2024 #10
Dementia? DET May 2024 #11
It's hard to know when dementia is unmasking nastiness that was always there, but better hidden... Silent3 May 2024 #13
No, he has always been a known jerk, including a sexist, homophobic one obamanut2012 May 2024 #25
Was, or became? Silent3 May 2024 #12
I actually checked him out yesterday BigmanPigman May 2024 #14
If he sounds, looks and acts like a Repuke....j democratsruletheday May 2024 #15
He was on that fucking Bill Maher podcast looking like a slap-fool sliding from the chair and almost laying on the floor SoFlaBro May 2024 #17
After decades of not paying attention to him... this is how he surfaces?! UTUSN May 2024 #19
When he 'finally' won the Oscar for Best Actor NanaCat May 2024 #23
I never could figure out why I did not like him. Now I know. niyad May 2024 #20
Same. Goddessartist May 2024 #29
;just sad so many tarnishing their legacies with crazy ZonkerHarris May 2024 #21
He is always been a known ass -- people do not like working with him obamanut2012 May 2024 #24
I have yet to see an article that details exactly what he said. BlueTsunami2018 May 2024 #26
From the above article: shrike3 May 2024 #35
So when Richard Dreyfus played Sen Munson in The American President, he wasn't really acting, he was just being himself. surfered May 2024 #28
I don't judge him. He's obviously got Alzheimers or something else that is affecting him. Doodley May 2024 #31
Nah, he has always been like this obamanut2012 May 2024 #40
He's never ranted like this in public wearing a dress. He's never even been seen in a dress before. Doodley May 2024 #44
Wow Mad_Machine76 May 2024 #36
Whoa, that's disturbing PatSeg May 2024 #38
He's bipolar jcboon May 2024 #39
Two decades ago he said he was bi-polar. This behavior is something new. Doodley May 2024 #45
I think we're seeing why Bill Murray threw a ceramic ash tray at his head during What About Bob BannonsLiver Jun 2024 #46
He is an asshole. Dreyfuss once compared kissing Bette Midler to kissing a dog...they were in the Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #48
Bette Midler is a National Treasure edhopper Jun 2024 #49

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
2. yeah, he's a product of his generation
Mon May 27, 2024, 06:34 PM
May 2024

like my parents...at some point you know they just refuse to learn or grow or change.

I think I've heard he's an asshole to other actors, directors, etc many years ago so not surprising.

hlthe2b

(113,947 posts)
7. Oh, please. That generation had plenty of incredible liberals too (who remained so)
Mon May 27, 2024, 06:48 PM
May 2024

Dreyfuss is 76. Steven Spielberg is 77. Alan Alda is 88. Michael Douglas is 79. George Lucas is 80. Goldie Hawn is 73 and Kurt Russell is 78. Are any of those other than Dreyfuss asshole bigoted "products of their generation" who refuse to "learn, grow, or change?" Really?

(The list are just a few that come to mind as long-term Hollywood liberals of that generation).

democratsruletheday

(1,880 posts)
8. solid post and points.....
Mon May 27, 2024, 07:52 PM
May 2024

Too bad, he was a solid actor way back when. Now he's a seething, bitter, asshole of an old man. Pity....

Celerity

(54,404 posts)
33. You flipped Hawn and Russell's ages, and your list contains 2 different Gens (granted most are close in terms of birth)
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:29 AM
May 2024

Kurt Russell is 73 - Boomer
Dreyfuss is 76 - Boomer
Steven Spielberg is 77 - Boomer

-----------------

Goldie Hawn is 78 - Silent Gen
Michael Douglas is 79 - Silent Gen
George Lucas is 80 - Silent Gen
Alan Alda is 88 - Silent Gen

hlthe2b

(113,947 posts)
34. They are of the cohort that includes the a'hole mentioned. And I quickly googled and the ages were
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:37 AM
May 2024

as cited for Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell. VERY FIRST entry on Google (firefox browser) under the search
"Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell// age" :
73 years 78 years
March 17, 1951 November 21, 1945

Google just as I state and prove to yourself. If it is wrong, complain to google. I posted what came up.



I'm sorry to hear you are having a bad morning and need to lash out at me for reasons that are totally unclear. The point was made regardless.

Celerity

(54,404 posts)
37. Their ages are their ages. It is not a thing up for debate.
Tue May 28, 2024, 12:07 PM
May 2024

Goldie Jeanne Hawn (born November 21, 1945) is an American actress. She is 78.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldie_Hawn

Kurt Vogel Russell (born March 17, 1951) is an American actor. He is 73.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Russell


As for this:

I'm sorry to hear you are having a bad morning and need to lash out at me for reasons that are totally unclear. The point was made regardless.


1. I am actually having a great day.

2. It is not morning here, it is 6 PM.

3. I was not 'lashing out' out at you in any way. That is pure hyperbole. All I did was list the correct birthyears and Gens. Zero ill intent and certainly no lashing out.

Cheers
🍻

hlthe2b

(113,947 posts)
41. Did you google to prove to yourself that it was NOT my error despite your claim that it was?
Tue May 28, 2024, 12:17 PM
May 2024

You continue to insinuate that I am trying to claim otherwise--so prove it to yourself. I am glad you are having a good day and hopefully will not respond to others' posts in such an accusatory manner. Again, with the "hyperbole" accusation, belying any claim of a sincere apology, as I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Such a small matter, yet, you felt compelled to respond as you did. Put me on ignore if I bother you so much. It is uncalled for.

Celerity

(54,404 posts)
43. I never said you bothered me. This entire exchange is strange to me.
Tue May 28, 2024, 01:14 PM
May 2024

I hope you have a good day and evening.

FakeNoose

(41,622 posts)
3. He hasn't had a movie career in at least 15 years
Mon May 27, 2024, 06:35 PM
May 2024

Remember when he played Dick Cheney in the movie "W"? That's the last thing I remember him in. It must have gone to his head, spouting all that Repuke dialog.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
22. He might not have had a leading man role
Tue May 28, 2024, 09:12 AM
May 2024

In a long time, but he's been making films as recently released as 2023 (Sweetwater). He's made about 18 film films since 2009. Most actors would be quite happy with that kind of 'dead' career.

I don't remember the details, but someone accused him of sexual harassment when the MeToo movement was at its peak. Since it flew under the radar, I doubt anyone took it seriously; however, the accusation and public kerfuffle alone has embittered many an accused person, and sometimes enough to reveal the wanker that was always there, down deep.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
5. It has gotten to the point...
Mon May 27, 2024, 06:44 PM
May 2024

....where 'social shunning' is the only way to move forward safely. When planning to associate professionally with someone, it's wise to first check their background for rightwing connections, if you don't want to be dragged through the mud (of their own making) with them.

Sure, we must be open to anyone's attempt at self-correction and remorse, but until those things are adequately proven, these rightwingers need to be treated as the pariahs that they choose to be.

Cha

(319,062 posts)
6. Ah a Stupid Blow Hard Bigot.. Idiot.
Mon May 27, 2024, 06:45 PM
May 2024
According to one attendee, Dreyfuss called Barbra Streisand a “genius” but said he “didn’t listen to her because she is a woman and women shouldn’t have that power.” The same attendee said Dreyfuss—who was clad in a housedress and waving a cane, according to Deadline—then claimed that “you shouldn’t be listening to some 10-year-old who says they want to be a boy instead of a girl.”

lol.. I'd like to hear what Barbra has to say about that.

Reminds me when John McCain told her she "should stick to singing and they would do the politics".

I emailed her about that and she responded. with..".. they want to kill the messenger.". or something to that effect.

Love Barbra Streisand Power Woman!

Bundbuster

(4,018 posts)
16. said he "didn't listen to her because she is a woman and women shouldn't have that power."
Mon May 27, 2024, 08:17 PM
May 2024

What a fucking raging asshole. Even when he was in some really good movies I always had my suspicions.

Cha

(319,062 posts)
18. ONe of those most Idiotic utterances
Mon May 27, 2024, 08:32 PM
May 2024

I've ever heard from a full blown Misogynist.

If he were around before Women got the vote in the USA he'd be campaigning Against it.. Moron.

angrychair

(12,278 posts)
42. Honestly, based on descriptions
Tue May 28, 2024, 12:24 PM
May 2024

It sounds like Dreyfuss has dementia issues. Not saying that is the case but going to a public speaking event as the guest of honor in a house dress and waving a cane and ranting sexist and bigoted absurdities, sure sounds like dementia.

mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
9. Damn he's made some good movies. What a shitty person.
Mon May 27, 2024, 07:59 PM
May 2024

Good bye Girl. Wounderful Neil Simon show.

spooky3

(38,631 posts)
27. I found it to be very sexist even at the time.
Tue May 28, 2024, 10:10 AM
May 2024

Looks as if the star was a perfect fit.

Incanus

(180 posts)
10. How bizarre: "Dreyfuss--who was clad in a housedress and waving a cane"
Mon May 27, 2024, 07:59 PM
May 2024

Reminds me of Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair, people will try to pass it off as a generational thing or dementia but in my experience neither age nor dementia turn you into a raging bigot.

DET

(2,498 posts)
11. Dementia?
Mon May 27, 2024, 08:03 PM
May 2024

“…clad in a housedress and waving a cane…” Most people aren’t that forthright about their prejudices - unless something is preventing inhibition.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
13. It's hard to know when dementia is unmasking nastiness that was always there, but better hidden...
Mon May 27, 2024, 08:06 PM
May 2024

...or is the cause of the nastiness.

obamanut2012

(29,367 posts)
25. No, he has always been a known jerk, including a sexist, homophobic one
Tue May 28, 2024, 10:00 AM
May 2024

People haven't wanted to work with him for years.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
12. Was, or became?
Mon May 27, 2024, 08:04 PM
May 2024

I don't know enough of his view in the past to know if he was always like this, or if, as sadly too many people do when they get older, he turned bitter and hateful late in his life.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
14. I actually checked him out yesterday
Mon May 27, 2024, 08:09 PM
May 2024

on Google while watching Jaws. I thought he was an ass when I met him in 1983 and it turns out that he was an ass. He said he became addicted to cocaine for about 6 years and he doesn't even remember a whole film that he made during that time.

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
17. He was on that fucking Bill Maher podcast looking like a slap-fool sliding from the chair and almost laying on the floor
Mon May 27, 2024, 08:20 PM
May 2024

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
19. After decades of not paying attention to him... this is how he surfaces?!
Tue May 28, 2024, 12:29 AM
May 2024

I never saw Jaws, will never bother. I saw Close Encounters and it was O.K., moderately provoking, not more. Richard DREYFUSS had his day of the hullabaloo back then, or just halfway in the ‘baloo. He wasn’t a big personality, didn’t keep my focus. I didn’t know of any political involvement, took it for granted he was a run o’tha mill Hollywood Lib, but unusually mousey, WIMPY. When he finally won an Oscar I was mildly approving, thought it was rude of Shirley MacCLAINE to elbow him out of the spotlight in the middle of his acceptance speech while she took the mic to cheer for her brother Warren BEATTY, an authentic Lib, about who knows what off topic thing.

So have never thought about him, lo, all these decades. Saw him on Bill MAHER’s podcast, hour and a half, and main thing was how oddly
he was slouching, sprawling and sliding in the armchair, and how he did rambling word association throughout, although nothing explicitly controversial. Of course, MAHER the Libertarian smoked pot, guzzled booze throughout.

But a year or two ago my local radio talk show wingnuts were in an absolute wingnut tizzy, claiming that the Rolling Stone magazine had dropped its Liberal identity with a wingnut attack of some kind on BIDEN, or somesuch. I got on the case with my usual research (I’ve never looked at Rolling Stone), and found the article, which was by somebody surnamed DREYFUSS, who turned out to be Wimpy Richard’s son. He’s a Nepo-Baby who had the title of “Digital Editor” at Rolling Stone. The article was in no way a shift of general editorial slant or inclination, just one Nepo-Baby’s personal opinion, which I took to be an entitled spawn rebelling against his rich Hollywood parent. One more wingnut balloon I have popped with a supercilious email.

*** So now, here is daddy Richard being gigged as sexist, homophobic, and anti-diversity. Well, over the recent years I’ve been inured to seeing Big Names having their bigness knocked down to size, especially in YouTube exposes. And actually, SPIELBERG has lost his luster himself. So DREYFUSS never blotted out my sun to start with, and what he’s spewing now isn’t different from what lots of podcast comedians are griping about, how “diversity” and “wokeness” and P.C. are killing comedy and such, and how things were better in the Great good old days (sounds like MAGA) or get-off-my-lawn.

*** As for his defending Laurence OLIVIER’s blackface for Othello, what’s a great actor supposed to do if a great role is about a Black character, not play the great part?! And a month ago Bille Dee WILLIAMS surfaced, in a WISE, COSMOPOLITAN Old Age, very bright, very expansive, refusing to talk Race, noting his very diverse circle of friends, not criticizing the current trends, but saying his friend OLIVIER was fine as Othello and had taken things to a more extreme level, depicting Othello with other stereotypes, which Billy Dee LOVED. He said the same thing, actually, as DREYFUSS, that an actor of whatever race, gender, whatever should take whatever role, being ACTING. So DREYFUSS' excuse is that he likes the Constitution.

*********QUOTE********

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13463937/Theater-apologizes-patrons-following-controversial-appearance-Oscar-winner-Richard-Dreyfuss-12-months-said-Academys-DEI-rules-want-vomit.html
Richard Dreyfuss sparks outrage at Jaws screening as movie theater apologizes for his 'sexist and homophobic' remarks

…. Just 12 months ago, Dreyfuss was widely criticized for his remarks on the new diversity and inclusion requirements at the Academy Awards and said 'they make me vomit.' ....

The actor also defended Laurence Olivier's performance in the 1965 film Othello in which he played the lead character in blackface. ….

The actor has long been outspoken about his belief in the constitution.

In 2008, he founded The Dreyfuss Initiative, a nonprofit that promotes teaching about American democracy in classrooms nationwide. The initiative, among other things, provides teachers with videos and educational tools. ….

*******UNQUOTE******



 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
23. When he 'finally' won the Oscar for Best Actor
Tue May 28, 2024, 09:57 AM
May 2024

For Goodbye Girl in 1978, it was early in his career. Until Adrien Brody won in 2003 for the Pianist, Dreyfuss was the youngest recipient. He's still #2 on the list of youngest actors to win Best Actor.

As it is, MacLaine didn't take away from his win that year, because she was nowhere near the stage at the time; Sylvester Stallone presented the award solo, and quickly stepped aside after Dreyfuss had the statue in his hand.

I believe you're confusing his 1978 Oscar appearance with the following year, when MacLaine and Dreyfuss presented the Best Actress Award (winner: Jane Fonda). MacLaine hardly shoved Dreyfuss aside to praise her brother. The entire evening had been full of mindless random banter from presenters, and MacLaine added her share. It's classic MacLaine to do something silly in public because she's always been silly in public. I don't think anyone, including Dreyfuss, found her behaviour surprising or all that upsetting, no more than they found it upsetting when Olympia Dukakis used her acceptance speech in 1988 to cheer on her cousin running for President at the time.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,988 posts)
26. I have yet to see an article that details exactly what he said.
Tue May 28, 2024, 10:08 AM
May 2024

I don’t know what he said so I don’t know how to judge it. What I do know is that he’s been on a crusade for civics classes for quite a while. That is something on which I definitely agree with him.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
35. From the above article:
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:57 AM
May 2024

On Saturday, The Cabot hosted a screening of the 1975 blockbuster along with a Q&A discussion with Dreyfuss, 76, who starred in the film. However, things took a sharp turn when, according to social media posts from attendees, the Oscar-winning actor began sharing offensive comments about women and trans youth.

According to one attendee, Dreyfuss called Barbra Streisand a “genius” but said he “didn’t listen to her because she is a woman and women shouldn’t have that power.” The same attendee said Dreyfuss—who was clad in a housedress and waving a cane, according to Deadline—then claimed that “you shouldn’t be listening to some 10-year-old who says they want to be a boy instead of a girl.”

He also said that Close Encounters only worked because he was in it.

surfered

(13,455 posts)
28. So when Richard Dreyfus played Sen Munson in The American President, he wasn't really acting, he was just being himself.
Tue May 28, 2024, 10:13 AM
May 2024

Doodley

(11,911 posts)
31. I don't judge him. He's obviously got Alzheimers or something else that is affecting him.
Tue May 28, 2024, 11:04 AM
May 2024

obamanut2012

(29,367 posts)
40. Nah, he has always been like this
Tue May 28, 2024, 12:13 PM
May 2024

People don't like working with him, especially women.

Doodley

(11,911 posts)
44. He's never ranted like this in public wearing a dress. He's never even been seen in a dress before.
Tue May 28, 2024, 01:32 PM
May 2024

The irony of his anti-trans, homophobic rant while wearing a dress. No, this isn't how he has behaved before.

jcboon

(348 posts)
39. He's bipolar
Tue May 28, 2024, 12:12 PM
May 2024

He has disclosed that he is bipolar in several interviews. It would explain a lot.

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
46. I think we're seeing why Bill Murray threw a ceramic ash tray at his head during What About Bob
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 12:45 AM
Jun 2024

And why Robert Shaw, who had zero tolerance for other people’s bullshit, tormented him while filming Jaws.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
48. He is an asshole. Dreyfuss once compared kissing Bette Midler to kissing a dog...they were in the
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 09:22 AM
Jun 2024

'I have been kidnapped by Kmart movie...Ruthless People. He is arrogant and full of himself.

edhopper

(37,367 posts)
49. Bette Midler is a National Treasure
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 10:37 AM
Jun 2024

and a Legend.
Dreyfuss is now in the trashbin of History.
I am sure she now regrets having to kiss him.

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