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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJudge Marchan berates TFG lawyer for closing statement.
Link to tweet
The jurors are excused for lunch.
Steinglass hops up once they're gone and requests a curative instruction regarding a comment Blanche made about "sending Trump to prison."
JUSTICE MERCHAN: I think that comment was outrageous, Mr. Blanche. You know as someone who has been a prosecutor that it's simply not allowed, period. It's hard to see how that was an accident.
I'm going to give the curative instruction.
End snip.
Blanche evidently told the jury that they should think twice before sending TFG to prison. You cannot mention possible sentences in closing. Judge will instruct jury to disregard. (Sounds like a bit of a threat to the jury to me, if that is what he said)
RockRaven
(19,375 posts)republianmushroom
(22,326 posts)Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)He ordered the jury to disregard it. Thats all he can do.
Trust_Reality
(2,291 posts)SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)'they should think twice before sending TFG to prison', tRUMP's attorney...
Sure sounds like a threat to me.
Ms. Toad
(38,639 posts)The context is that caution was that they should not (or think twice - it's been reported both ways) send Trump to prision based soley on Cohen's word. (Again - slight variations in how is it stated, but when reported in context Blanche clearly made the suggestion that Cohen's words, alone, should not be the basis for sending Trump to prison.)
Either way - the comment on potential punishments is inappropriate. But out of context, it could sound like a threat; in the context in which it was said, the implication is that Cohen is a liar and there needs to be more proof before sending Trump to prison.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)That sucks, but I guess there's not much else he can do at this point.
Ms. Toad
(38,639 posts)But Steinglass is picking that apart in minute detail.
sop
(18,622 posts)Trust_Reality
(2,291 posts)I would bet big money Trump ordered the attorney to say it.
mobeau69
(12,374 posts)or there shouldve been a period after outrageous (.) and then Mr. Blanch, you know as someone .
whopis01
(3,919 posts)The judge was directing his comments towards Blanche.
"I think that comment was outrageous, Mr. Blanche" is essentially the same as saying "Mr. Blanche, I think that comment was outrageous". The judge was making it clear that he was talking to Blanche and his outrage was directed at Blanche.
mobeau69
(12,374 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(12,076 posts)the NEW YORK 'we don't take shit from NOBODY' mentality to hold strong.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)spanone
(141,616 posts)oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)He could've told the jury right then that it was improper & why.
Again, the shitshow continues.
Rob H.
(5,851 posts)I'm not sure what other action he could've taken in the moment.
Edit: Are judges allowed to interject directly, or would that be seen as improper? Maybe someone who knows more can chime in.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)But I cant remember why. Maybe it was when the jury was out.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)on "reasonable doubt" re finding Trump guilty. It was a political move. Blanche KNEW no prosecutors or defense must EVER speak of sentencing to jurors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/29/why-trump-lawyers-prison-reference-was-so-outrageous/
Judge Merchan DID stop him and sent the jury out and made everyone else stay. Merchan immediately said to Blanche when the jury left:
You know that making a comment like that is highly inappropriate. Its simply not allowed, Judge Merchan told Mr. Blanche outside the presence of the jury.
So when the jury came back, Merchan stated that only HE determines sentencing. That the jury must disregard any statement that would influence their verdict.
Jurors are now in deliberation. I expect the two lawyers on the jury to help them forget Blanche's intentional tactic.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)And indicated that was his pattern of conduct.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)rubbersole
(11,223 posts)Haggard Celine
(17,821 posts)dalton99a
(94,125 posts)avebury
(11,197 posts)the jury to me.
patphil
(9,068 posts)I think Todd Blanche should be censured for it. He knew what he was doing, he's defended people in Trump's circle before. This seems like something Roy Cohn would have done.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-lawyer-todd-blanche-draws-judges-ire-historic-trial-gets-underway-2024-04-24/
Maeve
(43,457 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)Jurors cant use it in deliberations, but its in their minds. There should be serious penalties for defense lawyers who pull stunts like this.
Talitha
(7,988 posts)Dump's lawyer knew he was out of bounds and I'm sure the jurists are more than capable of mentally bypassing his courtroom theatrics.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)Just checking. Members of the jury are jurors. A jurist is a lawyer or a judge.
Talitha
(7,988 posts)slightlv
(7,790 posts)If I were the judge, I'd definitely find him in contempt for that statement, and use it as a mark against T's gag order.
There is NO other way to read that lawyer's statement to the jury than as an out and out threat. I'm hopping mad right now and I'm nowhere near the trial!
If I'd been a juror, I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut at that point. I'd have addressed the judge right then and there to have the lawyer qualify his statement on pain of jail time for issuing domestic threats. But, that's just me and nobody can get me as hotheaded as Trump can!
MustLoveBeagles
(16,409 posts)AKwannabe
(6,890 posts)Comes off as a threat to me!
If I was a juror here I would also be addressing the court in the manner however a juror might be allowed to do. I would absolutely feel threatened by that think twice before sending fat ass to prison.
How dare they, even????
twodogsbarking
(18,785 posts)calimary
(90,021 posts)Cuz he always does this shit.
At some point, there should be consequences for always doing this shit.
twodogsbarking
(18,785 posts)calimary
(90,021 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,785 posts)Traurigkeit
(1,290 posts)Cause Blanche is going to lose his ability to practice LAW in New York State after all these "accidents" and "mistakes".
Blanche is going to have to repeat Law School.
duckworth969
(1,349 posts)Only reason for saying something like that.
young_at_heart
(4,042 posts)It seems that comment deserves more!