I'll believe it when I see it, and not one minute before

[Baltimike]

Until then, this could all just be Fitzmas wrapped up in Mueller Time.

There's always a reason the rich get off scot free

[JoeOtterbein]

1. Yep! *rump has the three W's....

White, Wealthy and Well known.

A keep out of jail card!

[Arne]

2. So he could pass GO collect $200

and land on Park Place.
He has already bankrupted Boardwalk.

[Martin68]

11. He's also a Wimp and a Wuss.

[brooklynite]

12. Please explain how any of those W's has helped in this trial

[chicoescuela]

3. I've been thinking about Fitzmas as well. Fool me once ....

[intrepidity]

4. I'm there too

I've got the "impending doom" feeling in the gut.

(Disclaimer: not too an unusual state for me, so....)

[Baltimike]

6. It only takes ONE holdout

for it to be a bust

[-misanthroptimist]

5. Oh, he's going to be found guilty on most charges, perhaps all of them

He may or may not get jail time. By all rights, his attitude and lack of remorse should earn him jail time. It still may.

But the only Fitzmas present Trump can get is probation.

[calimary]

27. Oh how I pray for the maximum!

I’d LOVE to see him have to limp into the fall campaign with a conviction hanging around his neck.

Dare I hope for MORE than just one conviction?

[NanaCat]

31. I'm pretty sure he won't spend a day in jail.

He has no (official) priors, and NYhas some rather firm guidelines about how to sentence his level of crime. Probation and fines are probably the best we can expect.

[Dave Bowman]

7. Same here. nt

[Torchlight]

8. I think everyone is in wait and see mode.

I doubt anyone but the most orthodox have an absolute faith it will go down one way or the other, as the assertion, "there's always reason to doubt" is equal to "there's always reason to hope."

Me? I've got nether doubt nor hope, just curiosity of a particular unknown; I don't self-identify as intelligent enough to lay claim to ablative absolutes.

[onenote]

15. From what I can tell, not everyone is in wait and see mode. Some are in "I'm going to speculate" mode.

[bigtree]

9. this isn't fitzmas

...this isn't speculation of a sealed indictment.

It's a jury already deliberating felony charges.

[hay rick]

10. I have yet to see the machinery of American justice do anything but fail when dealing with Trump.

How will the hush money trial fail? Let me count some of the possible ways:
1. Hung jury. 11-1 vote for conviction in a country where 40% of the population supports saboteurs of democracy.
2. Conviction with only delayed probation as a sentence.
3. Conviction with consequences delayed by appeal.
4. Conviction with media amplifying Trump's Biden-corrupt-judges-partisan-prosecution-persecution temper tantrum 24-7.

[onenote]

17. so guilty verdicts in two defamation cases, the trump org fraud trial, and indictments out the wazoo are "fails"?

By the way, options 2 and 3 in your list reflect how many falsification of business records cases are resolved.

[LiberalFighter]

23. What OneNote replied

[Lonestarblue]

13. We have been disappointed so many times with efforts to hold Trump accountable.

The Mueller investigation was not allowed to investigate Trump’s financial ties to Russia, an investigation we assumed was happening but was prevented by Rosenstein.

Mueller found 10 incidents of obstruction of justice, but refused to indict because of a DOJ rule that has never been tested in court, thus allowing Barr to lie about them.

Garland took office and buried everything related to the Mueller investigation, including any follow up on Trump’s obstruction of justice.

The FBI tried to derail the search of Mar-a-Lago for stolen documents.

The DOJ seemed not to be investigating the planners of J6, choosing to go after the foot soldiers and ignore the generals, until the House Committee effectively forced him to act and appoint a Special Counsel for J6 and the documents theft.

And now, 31/2 years later, nothing has happened to bring Trump to justice. I hope New York succeeds in one small measure of accountability because nothing else is looking probable anytime soon.

[FakeNoose]

18. Everything you say is true ... maybe HERE is when his luck changes forever!

[calimary]

29. LOVE LOVE LOVE this!!!

How can you watch this and remain bummed out?

[FakeNoose]

32. I know right? Such a happy puppy

I didn't make this GIF, but I think it's the perfect Happy Dance.
He looks so much like my dog Buddy.

[SWBTATTReg]

30. I'm happy, happy, happy!!! So neat!

[Escurumbele]

14. I feel the same way, I don't even want to hear the pundits and their legal brain guests talk about it, I will find out

when the verdict comes out, that is really when its valid, the rest is just conjecture, although there is plenty of information, but not on the jurors. My fear is that one of them may have been placed there to hung the jury.

[Hekate]

16. Three levels of justice, apparently: Trump, the wealthy & powerful, and all the rest of us peons

Trump is in a category by himself

[ancianita]

19. That tsf can afford far more in due process & appeal delays does not a 3 level system of justice make.

This case (the cautionary tale to a Congress that should do a thorough judicial review) only proves how the rich can 'work' the justice system to delay their eventual outcomes, which is what the Rule of Law justice system is built for and now being stress tested for.

The justice system is working as designed. But Congress can make it work better in serving the the future to serve the overriding interests of the People of the United States.

[Tommy Carcetti]

20. You said the same thing about Trump being indicted.

Which he has now been four times over.

[Warpy]

21. 'Zactly. Also, if he's found guilty of something, he's unlikely to see prison

because as a former president, even the worst one in history, he has to be treated with respect he didn't afford the country or anyone in it. The most he will see is house arrest at his choice of golf palace.

The thing to remember is that this will be punishment--no lights, no cameras, no press hanging on every stupid thing that falls outt of his mouth, and especially no pep rallies to massage his ego.

It will be torture to a narcissistic asshole like him.

[calimary]

28. Works for me, though.

[Warpy]

35. Oh, same here. A gold plated prison is still a prison.

and taking away all his electronic toys in favor of an ankle bracelet will bring that point home to him.

[Baltimike]

36. I agree that even if he is found guilty, it'll probably be house arrest nt

[karin_sj]

22. Yup

Been disappointed so many times, I don't get my hopes up anymore.

[berksdem]

24. 100%

there is no guarantee we get the decision we all hope for... until then I am not holding my breath.

[ProfessorGAC]

25. I Understand The Sentiment

But, you lost me with mentioning "Fitzmas". The 2 situations are massively different.
So, I can't support your cynicism because it doesn't appear to be rooted in facts.

[Xavier Breath]

26. Yep, pretty much. n/t

[Skittles]

33. CORRECT

rich white men are held to a completely different standard, if at ALL

[republianmushroom]

34. agree

[KelleyKramer]

37. Ha hahahaha!!

GUILTY!

All the Trump cult followers can Suck on that!