Weissman thinks cheato should be sentenced to prison

[senseandsensibility]

He lists the complete lack of remorse, the gag order violations, evidence at trial of obstruction of justice and attacks on the jury.

Glad he went there. Anyone agree?

[Cattledog]

1. Lack of remorse is key!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

32. Just watch; tRump will say he is sorry in court to get no prison time, then tell microphones he would do it all again.nt

[Walleye]

2. He certainly doesn't realize that insulting the judge is not a good tactic for sentencing

[Irish_Dem]

5. Trump is used to bullying people to get what he wants.

He couldn't change his strategies to take into account a legal environment.

[hadEnuf]

30. Or going after the judge's daughter.

Trump needs prison and his followers need to be exposed for the scum they are.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Any one else would go to prison.

Trump is special and may avoid one day in jail.

[senseandsensibility]

10. Yes, but I am glad that Weissman is not buying into the narrative

that cheato won't go to jail. Actually, our side should be demanding it.

[Irish_Dem]

15. This judge won't listen to the rabble.

I think Trump should have been in prison a long time ago.

But I am being realistic.
The judge has already said he is sensitive to the fact the Trump is running for POTUS.

[jaxexpat]

35. All the more rationale to put him away lest he actually be elected POTUS.

Constitutional maze, though it be, justice must have its turn. Could this be its opportunity to perform its promised magic or will the six justices of the apocalypse attempt to seal the installation of this felonious punk?

[Irish_Dem]

40. Merchan is not going to base his decision on politics.

He is going to go by the book. The legal book.

No judge can save us.

It is up to We The People to stop Trump.
No one else will do it.

[jaxexpat]

44. Oh, I quite agree. By the book, though there may be some discretion at his level.

The suffix of my comments were meant for the possible occasion of Trump's re-election. He will appeal, of course, and it will be argued that a state's jurisdiction should not have a "too great" bearing on a federal executive officer's disposition either campaigning or serving. In all circumstances, I wonder how the USSC will loom over the proceedings. I don't think they will be loathe to jump in, appropriately or not. The crazies of the House are surely preparing their lines for this not unexpected "next act".

The good judge will not, unfortunately, have the final word, no matter what it is. Such is the can of worms we have. He is probably more aware of this than anyone else in the world.

[Irish_Dem]

47. All the judge can do is his best.

Then he lets the chips fall where they may.

Yes this trial will move to its next stages, it is far from over.
All the appellate processes, Trump's hateful rhetoric, Congress, and yes the corrupt Supreme Court may bail him out.

I warn that Trump may pull some tricks we have not even thought of.
He is capable of that. And so are his minions.

[returnee]

42. Yes!

In no way does he deserve special treatment. All these statements about him getting off lightly are harmful to the cause of justice.

[Lars39]

4. Yes, indeedy, and if he keeps calling the judge corrupt

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we may get to see it!

[bluestarone]

6. No REMORSE equals

PRISON TIME!!

[onenote]

59. No it doesn't. At least not as a matter of law.

Many convicted felons appeal their convictions, even if there is no jail time. And convicted felons who appeal their convictions almost never express remorse, not surprisingly.

[VMA131Marine]

7. Of course he should get prison time.

And let’s remember a black woman in Texas got 5 years (although it was eventually overturned) for voting illegally even though she didn’t know it.
So 5 years seems fair.

[MagickMuffin]

21. The Tarrant County DA is appealing that decision against Crystal Mason

I suppose you don’t have the privacy when you vote provisionally. When I worked elections right here in Tarrant County, voting provisionally you have to fill out a lot of paperwork identifying who you are. That would also allow the Election administration to review your ballot and who you voted for. Usually when it did occur, most of the time it was because you were not at the correct polling location. That has changed here for now. You can vote at any precinct as long as it is in Tarrant County.

The Tarrant County District Attorney's Office says they are appealing last month's ruling by a Texas appeals court that overturned a woman's 2018 conviction for illegal voting.

Crystal Mason was on probation for a felony conviction in 2016 when she voted in an election using a provisional ballot. She was convicted two years later of voter fraud and sentenced to five years behind bars because state law only allows felons to vote if they have fully finished their sentence, including any parole or supervision requirements.

Mason said she did not know that being on probation for a previous felony conviction left her ineligible to vote. Prosecutors maintained that she read and signed an affidavit accompanying her provisional ballot affirming that she had “fully completed” her sentence. Justice Wade Birdwell wrote in March 2024 that having read these words on the affidavit didn't prove Mason knowingly cast the provisional ballot illegally in 2016.

"Even if she had read them, they are not sufficient … to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she actually knew that being on supervised release after having served her entire federal sentence of incarceration made her ineligible to vote by casting a provisional ballot.”

Birdwell then overturned Mason's conviction. On Thursday, the Tarrant County District Attorney's Office asked the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals to reverse Birdwell's ruling.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/tarrant-county-da-appeals-ruling-overturning-crystal-mason-illegal-voting-conviction/3524579/

[TSExile]

8. He's an unrepentant RAPIST, liar, murderer, thief and now FELON.

LOCK HIM UP!!!!!

[Skittles]

9. anyone else would be

I'm sure the Supreme Court repuke hacks are working overtime trying to figure out how to help that corrupt fucker.

[senseandsensibility]

19. We can't let our guard down

Katyal said much the same on MSNBC.

[Skittles]

22. indeed

we will always fight............

[Ponietz]

51. Working every angle to get a pardon from Hochul to "heal the country".

Same fucking vermin that screamed “Lock her up!”

[onenote]

56. Have you surveyed the precedents? Norm Eisen has and thinks six months is maximum he'll get.

Unless you know the sentences received by "any one else" convicted of falsifying business records you have no basis for your statement.

[republianmushroom]

11. Agree

[dalton99a]

12. POS must be incarcerated for the protection of our country

[2naSalit]

13. I agree completely.

[lpbk2713]

14. He showed contempt for the entire legal justice system.

He shows no signs of redemption.

Lock his worthless ass up.

[BootinUp]

16. The sentence should follow same guidelines

As if Trump were any other white collar criminal.

[senseandsensibility]

18. Exactly.

That's the bottom line.

[ecstatic]

17. Of course! Lock him up!

And no secret service either.

[SoFlaBro]

20. Stupid Orange Fuckface slept through half of the proceedings and kept talking shit about the judge the whole time.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. I heard that. After letting it sit in my head a few minutes, I can imagine an orange jumpsuit.

[Fla Dem]

24. I say 3 months for each charge. 3 x 34 102 months or 8 years.

He'll be 78 in June, so would be 86 when he got out unless his sentence is reduced, or he dies in prison.

By only doing 3 months per charge the Judge can say he took Trump's age under consideration when making the decision.

[ZonkerHarris]

25. and his pure contempt for the rule of law and the justice system itself

not just this case either.

[GreenWave]

26. I and millions more indubitably agree!

[FakeNoose]

27. Plus the fact that Chump and his lawyer both antagonized the judge at every opportunity

I think Judge Merchan will be very happy to sentence Chump to prison.

But I realize there will be appeals and delays all along the way. It won't be settled this year.

[JohnSJ]

28. I doubt he will, but even if he does, no doubt he will appeal the

verdict, and delay it until after the election, and hope he will win.


The stakes couldn’t be bigger

[TygrBright]

29. To "no remorse" add "extent of damage". Yeah, he SHOULD do time. n/t

[WmChris]

31. Lock him up!

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

[littlemissmartypants]

33. I concur.

But I won't truly be satisfied until he's dead.

[benfranklin1776]

34. Hell yea!!!!!

[ancianita]

36. Hillary and I agree with Weissman.

[Old Crank]

37. NY has a 3 strikes law

That mandates an indeterminate life in prison sentence for a third felony conviction. He now has 34 felony convictions, so.......

[NanaCat]

55. Not how it works.

Why people keep trotting out this baseless assertion, I have no idea.

[onenote]

58. Because despite what is often claimed, a lot of people want him treated more harshly than the law provides

not the same.

[Old Crank]

62. They have the law.

Now I don't expect that to happen. They could ask for consecutive terms. That is unlikely. Each low level felony is 4 years max. I would be happy if he got to spend a year in prison then 3 years probation. Not having to hear his lies and garbage for a year would be pleasant.

[flashman13]

38. This is where a normal person shows remorse and throws themselves on the mercy of the court.

We know trump is not capable of remorse. And given the way Trump has insulted and endangered the judge and his family it is hard to see why the judge should be merciful. Trump should go to jail. But I don't think it will happen.

When the election is over and Biden is re-elected Trump will definitely be going to jail. He will be shown no mercy.

[Kid Berwyn]

39. 34 x 4 equals 236

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That’s a start on repaying his debt to society.

[bucolic_frolic]

41. He's at war with the rule of law and authority

He's the kingpin. Many J6 served jail terms at his behest. Why wouldn't he go to jail? He's resisted every component of the process.

[AdamGG]

43. Yeah, but does he want a sentence to jack up his base more?

It would be satisfying to see him jailed, but not sure if it would accomplish much. The important thing is to defeat him and then try him for January 6th and the documents and lock him up on more significant charges for that.

[GenThePerservering]

45. I cannot believe that it won't be until July 11 for sentencing.

Can someone explain that to me like I'm five?

[Prairie Gates]

52. That's like six weeks

What's to explain? Probation office has to produce a study and report. Judge has to have available docket. It's New York County.

How fast do you think you want it?

[onenote]

57. It's real life, not a one hour tv show.

Is that close enough to an explanation a five year old could understand?

[dsharp88]

46. Cohen is the key for convicted felon Trump going to jail

Cohen, too, was a first-time offender and went to jail for lying on behalf of convicted felon Trump. Now they found guilty the guy who directed him to do it. How would it not be justified to give convicted felon Trump jail as well?

[senseandsensibility]

48. That is a very good point

about Cohen.

[onenote]

60. Cohen was sentenced to 3 years after pleading guilty to violating four different criminal statutes.

Specifically, he plead guilty to five counts of willful tax evasion; one count of making false statements to a bank; one count of causing an unlawful campaign contribution; and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution. The maximum penalty for each violation was from five years to 30 years. His sentence was less the maximum for any of those eight counts.

His sentence for perjury was two months, to be served concurrently with his previous sentence.

[Johonny]

49. George Conway thinks theres a good chance

34 felonies isn't something to laugh off in his opinion.

[GoodRaisin]

50. Yes, great minds think alike.

So, LOCK HIM UP! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha….

[Attilatheblond]

53. He is sound and sane in his asessment. A slap on the wrist will NOT make the point with Trumpthat that laws matter

Prison for Trump. Just like any other CONVICTED FELON.

[NanaCat]

54. It doesn't matter what he thinks.

All that matters is what Merchan decides about sentencing.

Why waste time with the speculation of someone who's only guessing, and doesn't know anything for sure?

[senseandsensibility]

66. If that's your judgement you're

certainly free to ignore his comments.

[lindysalsagal]

61. Many msnbc pundits this morning guessed he'd not see prison

Not a violent offending case. Unlike E Jean Carroll.

[prodigitalson]

63. Absolutely... at least six months

[MOMFUDSKI]

64. Agree. If they had been tough on Nixon

this may not have happened. Make an example of a wayward president this time.