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I guarantee we will see polls that claim the guilty verdict helped TSF, they will be lying.
The guilty verdict hurts TSF at the polls.
It would be like TSF saying his doctor results came back showing that he had syphilis but then my polls went up.
Groundhawg
(1,218 posts)gab13by13
(32,314 posts)just look for patterns. History usually repeats itself, not to mention TSF just got caught paying people to give him favorable polling.
Everything has to be staged for TSF.
Groundhawg
(1,218 posts)gab13by13
(32,314 posts)How many times have polls underestimated how well the Republican candidate will do?
Why is it that polls "almost always" overestimate how well the Republican is going to do?
I am looking at the races for the past year and a half and most polls have badly missed how the Democrat was going to do.
I am willing to learn why that is?
stopdiggin
(15,462 posts)about the effect of the convictions on the polls
( other than the fact that you have forecast them - then discounted them - because, polls )
Dave Bowman
(7,151 posts)When untreated:
"Early symptoms include mood disturbances such as irritability, personality changes, changes in sleep habits, and forgetfulness. Late symptoms include labile mood, memory and judgment impairment, confusion, delusions, and seizures. Psychiatric disease including depression, delirium, mania, and psychosis can also result."
ThoughtCriminal
(14,721 posts)"55% of respondents say the conviction on charges against Trump by a New York jury make them more likely to support the former President" *
* according to a survey of patrons in a rural Alabama diner.
gab13by13
(32,314 posts)gab13by13
(32,314 posts)Independents in NY are shifting to TSF, Biden only leads TSF by 7 points.
Looking at history -
The last Republican to win New York was Reagan over Mondale by 8 points.
2016 Hillary over TSF by 22.5 points
2020 Biden over TSF by 23.2 points.
Boy oh boy I'm getting scared.
I will give anyone who wants to bet 8 points and I will take Joe for 100 dollars for charity. PM me if you believe the poll to be accurate and want to bet.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(23,219 posts)Im sure there are a ton of pollsters rushing to capture voter sentiment in the immediate aftermath of the verdict. These polls will produce lots of headlines, but I think it will be more useful and informative to wait about a month, then look back and see what the general trends have been (excluding outliers like the deeply flawed NYT, of course).
Say June 26, just before the first debate - look back and see what the trends have been.
Then, on the 27th comes the debate, and on July 11, sentencing, and on July 15, the convention. I, for one, will be very interested to see what the trends are leading into the convention, especially in the swing states.
This election could be in a very different place six weeks from now.
PeaceWave
(3,381 posts)I'll be watching those two specific polls to see how they change in the weeks to come.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden
gab13by13
(32,314 posts)Give me 5 points for 100 bucks for charity. PM me if you want the bet.
Wednesdays
(22,592 posts)See my sig line. And GOTV!