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surfered

(13,476 posts)
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:34 AM May 2024

For all of Trump's allies outraged by his conviction.....

....claiming it was a political prosecution, etc, etc, etc, I would remind them that it was the Trump's own Justice Department that indicted Michael Cohen for his participation in this same crime back in 2018.

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For all of Trump's allies outraged by his conviction..... (Original Post) surfered May 2024 OP
Well said. Short and sweet. ProudMNDemocrat May 2024 #1
The same type of morons who made John Dillenger into some kind of folk hero Robin Hood. marble falls May 2024 #2
Reminds me of... 2naSalit May 2024 #3
Exactly! surfered May 2024 #4
That simple fact, and their continued wailing, speaks volumes to the abject stupidity of the cult. n/t thenelm1 May 2024 #23
I suggest they study his history malaise May 2024 #5
Yes, And I found this... surfered May 2024 #6
Thanks for that malaise May 2024 #20
Back in the day, the USFL actually won a suit against the NFL and its monopoly... thenelm1 May 2024 #25
It was worse. He double crossed his USFL partners and tried to get an NFL team for himself. Rozelle said never. Marcuse Jun 2024 #42
no use trying to talk sense to people with TDS mdbl May 2024 #7
And then some... n/t thenelm1 May 2024 #26
Trump ally, Tom Barrack, was acquitted dlk May 2024 #8
Elections and trials are only rigged when the republican loses. mwb970 May 2024 #10
Of course dlk May 2024 #12
THI# malaise May 2024 #32
trump keeps saying the trial was "rigged". mwb970 May 2024 #9
Things are always "rigged" when Trump loses. patphil May 2024 #14
Trump, the pied piper of lemmings or the boy who constantly cried wolf? thenelm1 May 2024 #28
All of the comments by his supporters that I've read on social media are saying it's japple May 2024 #15
Early onset dementia appears to be a serious problem among some subset of the population, yes? n/t thenelm1 May 2024 #30
No need to bring in dementia NanaCat Jun 2024 #41
On 'witch hunts' and such B.See May 2024 #36
Of course all of both quotes are B/S/ soldierant May 2024 #39
Baseless assertions are the stock in trade of a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR Martin Eden Jun 2024 #44
Good reminder Ohioboy May 2024 #11
But, but, but...... PatSeg May 2024 #13
I hope you are right. Tickle May 2024 #29
No... HE did. B.See May 2024 #31
It was in the New York times Tickle May 2024 #33
Oh I believe you. My point is, his campaign didn't make it. HE did. As usual, most if not all of that money B.See May 2024 #34
How expensive is the Tickle May 2024 #37
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Jun 2024 #46
I don't think they can sustain this level of support PatSeg May 2024 #35
So says he. Marcuse Jun 2024 #43
Logic is another 'L' word like LOST and LOSER. 4lbs May 2024 #16
Angry Trumpies need to remember, or be reminded Mblaze May 2024 #17
We really do have to stop trying to understand or psychoanalyze these morons. llmart May 2024 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author anobserver2 May 2024 #19
"very angry ... said Biden should have "pardoned" Trump" Justice matters. May 2024 #40
❤️ littlemissmartypants May 2024 #21
And with Bar as AG had the NY office drop further investigation... thenelm1 May 2024 #22
Good to know.. tY! And Wow! Cha May 2024 #24
K&R Blue Owl May 2024 #27
we are MAGA *sarcasm* RicROC May 2024 #38
K&R! Different Drummer Jun 2024 #45

2naSalit

(102,804 posts)
3. Reminds me of...
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:54 AM
May 2024

All those magats in office who claim the 2020 election was rigged but not for their elections which they won even though they were on the same ballots.

thenelm1

(912 posts)
23. That simple fact, and their continued wailing, speaks volumes to the abject stupidity of the cult. n/t
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:12 PM
May 2024

surfered

(13,476 posts)
6. Yes, And I found this...
Fri May 31, 2024, 09:56 AM
May 2024

Trump’s Taj Mahal violated rules related to casino operations on four separate occasions and total fines amounted to $930,000.

Trump University defrauded more than 5,000 people and ordered to pay $25 million as a settlement.

The Trump Corporation and Trump Payroll Corp were found guilty of criminal tax fraud for...wait for it....falsifying business records.

The Trump Foundation was dissolved and Donald Trump had to pay $2 million to several charities as a fine for misusing his own charitable foundation to further his political and business interests.

A State Court found that Donald trump and his sons were liable for fraud for misstating the value of assets to banks and insurance companies . Donald Trump was ordered to pay $454 million and the Trump Organization's business certification was revoked in New York.

thenelm1

(912 posts)
25. Back in the day, the USFL actually won a suit against the NFL and its monopoly...
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:30 PM
May 2024

on professional football. Trump was one of the USFL team owners (NJ Generals). Long story short, Trump was present at trial and was called upon to testify. In essence, he was such an obnoxious twit during the trial, that even though the USFL won the suit, they were awarded a total of $1 ($3 considering the tripling of damages). And the USFL soon ceased to exist. End of story. (Even when he wins, he's still a loser.)

Marcuse

(9,010 posts)
42. It was worse. He double crossed his USFL partners and tried to get an NFL team for himself. Rozelle said never.
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 06:55 AM
Jun 2024

dlk

(13,248 posts)
8. Trump ally, Tom Barrack, was acquitted
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:12 AM
May 2024

Do Trump supporters believe his trial was rigged, as well?

mwb970

(12,150 posts)
9. trump keeps saying the trial was "rigged".
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:12 AM
May 2024

Questions. How, and by whom? What is the evidence supporting this claim? Why was this evidence not made part of the trial by the trump legal team? Will the "rigging" of the trial be the basis for his inevitable appeal?

patphil

(9,068 posts)
14. Things are always "rigged" when Trump loses.
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:26 AM
May 2024

At least he says so, and we know he always tells the truth; Trump truth that is...just a little different from the actual truth.

thenelm1

(912 posts)
28. Trump, the pied piper of lemmings or the boy who constantly cried wolf?
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:39 PM
May 2024

Which description is more apt?

japple

(10,459 posts)
15. All of the comments by his supporters that I've read on social media are saying it's
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:27 AM
May 2024

rigged by Joe Biden

MAGAt1: WITCH HUNT - I don’t identify with any party, I just look at who is best for my well being! This was a WITCH HUNT! Senile dementia president, lunatic vice president who thinks everything is funny and a joke, most can’t afford groceries and medicine. I’ll take Trump any day! Felony conviction - so what, it’s a sham, I don’t give a crap what he did with a porn star, I didn’t care about Marilyn, Mary Jo, Paula or Monica they were grown ups who made their decisions . What a joke!! I’m sorry that many lost their lives and I feel for their families.
MAGAt2: they turned a mistemeaner into a felony , the judge wlas a Biden supporter, Allen brag ran on getting trump, NY is very liberal this is no surprise but set back and watch trumps poll numbers go up.
... past the statue of limitation
...funny how lawyers who are not trump fans even liberals say this is a joke and all political, they took the word of Cohn who's lied under oath many times and a porno star. Again why didn't they go after Trump years ago for this? We all know why.

thenelm1

(912 posts)
30. Early onset dementia appears to be a serious problem among some subset of the population, yes? n/t
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:43 PM
May 2024
 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
41. No need to bring in dementia
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 03:29 AM
Jun 2024

When bloody f'n stupid is the actual problem.

I realise the two conditions can look alike, but, honestly, terminal stupid is more often the reason.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
39. Of course all of both quotes are B/S/
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:56 PM
May 2024

But what struck me was the connemt that the judge turned a misdemeanor into a felony. No he didn't. The state legislatures and governor at the time who signed it did that when they passed the law maing this misde meanor intoa felony if anf only if there was another crime involved.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
44. Baseless assertions are the stock in trade of a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 07:55 AM
Jun 2024

Facts, evidence and truth play no part in what The Fascist Grifter says. Whatever serves his interest in the moment becomes the narrative.

Fact checking is ineffective because the landslide of lies piling up for years upon years has built a foundation of normalcy.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
13. But, but, but......
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:17 AM
May 2024

....they'll never see it, unless perhaps his crimes happen to them, but probably not even then.

Over the years, his hold on these people will wear off, but it will probably take a long time. Meanwhile, they'll start to pack away their stupid hats, t-shirts, and god-awful flags while they go back to watching mind-numbing television and drinking Lite beer.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
33. It was in the New York times
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:58 PM
May 2024

I'm on my phone and can't link but if you are in a position to Google you can look it up

B.See

(8,505 posts)
34. Oh I believe you. My point is, his campaign didn't make it. HE did. As usual, most if not all of that money
Fri May 31, 2024, 09:02 PM
May 2024

is going right into tsf's POCKETS.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
37. How expensive is the
Fri May 31, 2024, 09:09 PM
May 2024

commissary at rikers island? Asking for a friend 😂🤣😆😱

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
35. I don't think they can sustain this level of support
Fri May 31, 2024, 09:02 PM
May 2024

much longer. I'm surprised it lasted this long considering the attention span of some of these people.

Mblaze

(1,040 posts)
17. Angry Trumpies need to remember, or be reminded
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:35 AM
May 2024

That Trump paid a $25 million settlement to the students he defrauded with his online university and had his Trump Charities disbanded and paid a $2 million settlement to the charities he defrauded by using their funds for his personal campaign expenses - WHILE HE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

llmart

(17,623 posts)
18. We really do have to stop trying to understand or psychoanalyze these morons.
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:51 AM
May 2024

They will never change simply because they are not too bright (I'm being tactful here) and extremely gullible and no one or any one incident is ever going to change their minds or make them smarter.

I choose to save my emotional energies for more important people - people who at least try to educate themselves and not find their information on Tik Tok or Fakebook.

Response to surfered (Original post)

Justice matters.

(9,790 posts)
40. "very angry ... said Biden should have "pardoned" Trump"
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:58 PM
May 2024

He's either ignorant or a shameless propagandist.

Presidents can't pardon state-law convicted felons, only federal-law ones.

RicROC

(1,249 posts)
38. we are MAGA *sarcasm*
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:35 PM
May 2024

We are Making America Great Again when a long standing CRIMINAL is convicted of 34 counts.
It's not our 'tfg derangement syndrome' which accuses him of criminality- our fellow citizens have confirmed it.
AND we have 3 more trials to go, plus two others if those states AGs get their act together.

Yes, America is on the right track now that old Joe has led US with the help of competent advisors.

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