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angrychair

(11,764 posts)
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:04 PM May 2024

Speaker Johnson Says What?

He later added that the justices on the nation’s highest court, “many” of whom he knows personally, are “deeply concerned about that, as we are. So, I think they will set this straight, but it’s gonna take a while.”


Wow 😳. That is a pretty interesting statement from the Speaker. One is it exposes a significant bias from the Justices in question, calling into question their ability to be impartial in cases involving TSF.
Two, in what situation is the Speaker of the House associating with SCOTUS Justices and discussing the legal challenges facing the former president? Why is that conversation even happening? What was the reason that the Speaker engaged with multiple Justices in the last 12 hours and specifically discussed Trump's legal issues?

Reference: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4696419-speaker-johnson-supreme-court-should-step-in-on-trump-appeal/
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Speaker Johnson Says What? (Original Post) angrychair May 2024 OP
Right? MontanaMama May 2024 #1
Yes indeed! MyOwnPeace May 2024 #9
Traitors gonna traitor. LakeArenal May 2024 #2
"Set this straight?" FalloutShelter May 2024 #3
Not yet wryter2000 May 2024 #4
Sweet Martha is probably busy throwing things at her neighbors ... nt TBF May 2024 #6
Says who? getagrip_already May 2024 #26
SCOTUS Blog has opinions scheduled for Thursday. FalloutShelter May 2024 #27
Yeah, scotus drops decisions on tuesdays and thursdays getagrip_already May 2024 #29
I'm not talking about the guilty verdict... FalloutShelter Jun 2024 #35
So am i.... getagrip_already Jun 2024 #38
Sure sounds that way orangecrush Jun 2024 #39
The Christian Nationalists need to be taken down hard or the USA PufPuf23 May 2024 #5
And Speaker Mike is playing the long game. After today, im convinced the Ukraine bill was part of the long game... Volaris May 2024 #12
Fking religion ruins EVERYTHING! OMGWTF May 2024 #17
Stone-age fairy tales, written by goat-herders, make fools feel powerful lindysalsagal Jun 2024 #31
Well, that rule of law we thing used to have was nice while it lasted surfered May 2024 #7
I thought Roberts told us yesterday he couldn't meet with congress members. But today we're told he met Speaker Johnson usaf-vet May 2024 #8
Recommended. H2O Man May 2024 #10
I wish Rachel or someone else would slightlv May 2024 #11
I promise you, if every single one of the hosts on MSNBC don't hop on this, Joy or Chris or Alex will! BComplex May 2024 #21
He thinks the USSC is going to declare GOP candidates sacrosanct Warpy May 2024 #13
Sorry, Warpy: they don't have ANYTHING to lose. Theirs is permanent job security. BComplex May 2024 #22
I think they do Warpy May 2024 #23
Johnson sucking up to convicted felon ex-president trump. republianmushroom May 2024 #14
Too bad Durbin is too clueless to pick up on this and USE it. Traurigkeit May 2024 #15
Insiders are gonna give and get leaks duckworth969 May 2024 #16
Far beyond "calling into question"; NO doubt that the SC is captive to rightwing elite lostnfound May 2024 #18
This isn't finished yet. Vote Joinfortmill May 2024 #19
Johnson is immoral, no wonder he needs to have his son keep a close eye on his activities. Uncle Joe May 2024 #20
The brazen corruption... GiqueCee May 2024 #24
Assuming he's not making assumptions or lying through his teeth about what the justices think. n/t Ms. Toad May 2024 #25
This is the kind of 'witnessing' for Christ that degrades Christianity. keithbvadu2 May 2024 #28
Is MAGA Mike lying? SARose Jun 2024 #30
I hope tscf finally starts oiting the jan 6 congtesspeoplei lindysalsagal Jun 2024 #32
I do believe Mike needs ex-lax brownies. Emile Jun 2024 #33
We truly are at a "they made their ruling, let them enforce it" phase maxrandb Jun 2024 #34
Is he telling us that the Supreme Court doesn't believe in our rule of law? spanone Jun 2024 #36
He's telling us Republicans are Weak on Crime. Emile Jun 2024 #37

MontanaMama

(24,618 posts)
1. Right?
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:07 PM
May 2024

Especially since CJ Roberts declined to meet with Sheldon Whitehouse and Dick Durbin.

MyOwnPeace

(17,446 posts)
9. Yes indeed!
Fri May 31, 2024, 01:49 PM
May 2024

He declined because to meet with any one group of a political party would be “inappropriate!”

They’re crooked - every one of them!!!

FalloutShelter

(14,213 posts)
3. "Set this straight?"
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:12 PM
May 2024

SCOTUS opinions are due Thursday, June 6.
Has the Immunity decision leaked?

Asking for a friend.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
26. Says who?
Fri May 31, 2024, 09:36 PM
May 2024

They go on vacation, but court is technically still in session until the beginning of October.

They can release opinions any time they are ready, no?

Sure, traditionally they try to release them by the beginning of June, but they aren't required to. It's just their practice.

FalloutShelter

(14,213 posts)
27. SCOTUS Blog has opinions scheduled for Thursday.
Fri May 31, 2024, 09:45 PM
May 2024

You missed my point. Johnson seems certain they will intervene. I simply wondered if the opinion has been leaked to him.
There was, after all, a leak about the Dobbs decision.
Might the leaker have the initials SA?
Did you know that Johnson flies the same appeal to heaven flag outside his office as Alito had flying at his beach house?.
JMHO

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
29. Yeah, scotus drops decisions on tuesdays and thursdays
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:30 PM
May 2024

Throughout the term. Not every time, but if they drop, it's on those days.

He is right that it will take a while though. For scotus to get it, the case will have to go to the first level of appeal, then the highest appellate court in ny.

Then they can appeal to scotus if there is a constitutional question.

They could try an emergency appeal to scotus, but they really don't have grounds for that. Not that scotus needs grounds I guess.

But they need a fig leaf of a constitutional basis. Which so far they haven't raised.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
38. So am i....
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 09:29 AM
Jun 2024

Scotus routinely releases decisions on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

They don't usually announce which, if any, until the day they are released.

I think they still have over 30 outstanding decisions due.

PufPuf23

(9,713 posts)
5. The Christian Nationalists need to be taken down hard or the USA
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:20 PM
May 2024

will become a racist, theocratic dictatorship.

Christian Nationalism is bigger national security threat than Trump who is a means to their end goal.

Christian Nationalism is deeply imbedded in our society and government by a deliberate decades-long project.

Volaris

(11,427 posts)
12. And Speaker Mike is playing the long game. After today, im convinced the Ukraine bill was part of the long game...
Fri May 31, 2024, 01:58 PM
May 2024

namely, they will use trump as their puppet to enact a theocracy, and as payment they will happily let him loot as much as he wants from the treasury.
Because these people think they know how real power works, and they understand the difference between the true believer and those who can simply be bought (guess which trump is).

The Ukraine bill was mike betting trump will get reelected, and him being smart enough to still be Speaker-Cardinal when it happens.
As far as I'm concerned, the next time his own idiots want him gone, I'm just fine with dems helping that happen now.

lindysalsagal

(22,823 posts)
31. Stone-age fairy tales, written by goat-herders, make fools feel powerful
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 07:16 AM
Jun 2024

Well, your gawd just convicted your cult-leader's immense ass, as he does every time. You'd think they'd catch on when nothing goes their way.

usaf-vet

(7,760 posts)
8. I thought Roberts told us yesterday he couldn't meet with congress members. But today we're told he met Speaker Johnson
Fri May 31, 2024, 01:33 PM
May 2024

Chief Justice John Roberts on Thursday declined an invitation to meet with Democratic senators to talk about Supreme Court ethics and the controversy over flags that flew outside homes owned by Justice Samuel Alito.

Roberts’ response came in a letter to the senators a day after Alito separately wrote them and House members to reject their demands that he recuse himself from major Supreme Court cases involving former President Donald Trump and the Jan. 6 rioters because of the flags, which are like those carried by rioters at the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., a member of the Judiciary panel, had written Roberts a week ago to ask for the meeting and that Roberts take steps to ensure that Alito recuses himself from any cases before the court concerning the Jan. 6 attack or the Republican former president’s attempts to overturn his 2020 election defeat.

“I must respectfully decline your request for a meeting,” Roberts wrote.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/chief-justice-roberts-rejects-senate-democrats-request-to-discuss-supreme-court-ethics

slightlv

(7,451 posts)
11. I wish Rachel or someone else would
Fri May 31, 2024, 01:57 PM
May 2024

pick up on this, and present just what you've said. Separation of powers, my butt!

BComplex

(9,777 posts)
21. I promise you, if every single one of the hosts on MSNBC don't hop on this, Joy or Chris or Alex will!
Fri May 31, 2024, 03:24 PM
May 2024

They don't take any prisoners!

Warpy

(114,426 posts)
13. He thinks the USSC is going to declare GOP candidates sacrosanct
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:02 PM
May 2024

and immune froim prosecution, starting wih his Lard and Savior.

I don't think he's going to get a USSC majority, they're not that crazy, they have too much to lose.

BComplex

(9,777 posts)
22. Sorry, Warpy: they don't have ANYTHING to lose. Theirs is permanent job security.
Fri May 31, 2024, 03:25 PM
May 2024

That has to end, asap.

Warpy

(114,426 posts)
23. I think they do
Fri May 31, 2024, 04:15 PM
May 2024

and I think if they tried to declare this type of theocracy, there would be hell to pay. Think, for instance, of a flurry of constitutional amendments that would pass, yes pass, their approval rating is already in the toilet and we all know that branch of government needs serious reform. They would not like that, at all.

republianmushroom

(22,125 posts)
14. Johnson sucking up to convicted felon ex-president trump.
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:11 PM
May 2024

Oh the shame of it. But he being a republican we expect it as they have no shame.

lostnfound

(17,421 posts)
18. Far beyond "calling into question"; NO doubt that the SC is captive to rightwing elite
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:39 PM
May 2024

It will not change unless we can tip the balance of the court back to moderates or liberals.

Uncle Joe

(64,323 posts)
20. Johnson is immoral, no wonder he needs to have his son keep a close eye on his activities.
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:58 PM
May 2024

It's too bad, his son can't text and warn Johnson about his anti-democracy, anti-constitution, anti-no person is above the law porn.

Thanks for the thread angrychair

GiqueCee

(3,465 posts)
24. The brazen corruption...
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:57 PM
May 2024

... of the former Republican Party is a blood-boiling obscenity. The weasels have taken over Toad Hall, as it were, and they're not even making any discernible effort to conceal their plans for a full-tilt boogie insurrection regardless of the outcome in November. They're out for blood.
The conservatives have poisoned the well of judicial restraint by installing rabid ideologues who will do whatever the Orange Turdblossom tells them to do. The time for namby-pamby appeasement of these traitors is OVER. Are you listening, Garland?

Ms. Toad

(38,349 posts)
25. Assuming he's not making assumptions or lying through his teeth about what the justices think. n/t
Fri May 31, 2024, 08:58 PM
May 2024

SARose

(1,831 posts)
30. Is MAGA Mike lying?
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 07:10 AM
Jun 2024

I find it extremely hard to believe that a Supreme Court Justice would discuss Trump with Mike Johnson.

He was a no name back bencher before he became a baby face innocent looking Speaker.

In a transactional relationship with the Supremes what does he have to offer?

As my Granddaddy used to say “That boy put his mouth in motion before he put his brain in gear.”

lindysalsagal

(22,823 posts)
32. I hope tscf finally starts oiting the jan 6 congtesspeoplei
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 07:20 AM
Jun 2024

He's usually controlling them with threats, like, "I'll leak where your Russian oligarch money comes from."

The nyc jury wasn't in on the cover-ups or bribes. Too bad for him.

maxrandb

(17,189 posts)
34. We truly are at a "they made their ruling, let them enforce it" phase
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 07:32 AM
Jun 2024

of the Retrumplican Party war against the "rule of law".

This fucked-up party must be stomped to a festering pile of goo at the ballot box.

The only way to avoid defeating them with violence, is to defeat them peacefully. That is the choice we are facing this November.

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