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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe republican party has gone rogue. They no longer believe in our Justice System...
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...unless they are the ones meting out justice.
Our Supreme Court has become politicized to the point it won't even talk with Democrats.
What's a Democracy do?
Did our forefathers anticipate such a thing?
All because of one single, solitary man with 34 felony convictions.
GreenWave
(12,626 posts)Always Blue
(71 posts)Bush family for one and 2 of them became president.
FalloutShelter
(14,437 posts)in which a man with no honor could capture the soul of an entire political party.
Never forget... this is on them. They have blown past every off-ramp. They continue to stick with him.
They are ALL complicit in whatever happens going forward.
Irish_Dem
(81,119 posts)This is just the logical conclusion.
And when they say anything it doesn't apply to them.
Irish_Dem
(81,119 posts)GOP men make sure their wives, mistresses, daughters and granddaughters have access to abortions and emergency medical care. They all wear masks and get vaccinated.
Wounded Bear
(64,281 posts)Since Nixon, at least.
dalton99a
(94,072 posts)because Republicans helped him
magicarpet
(18,488 posts)...trashes out, seeks to decimate and destroy any governmental institution that does not totally yield to his will.
Support Donald trDUMP 100% or he will pour gasoline on and burn your operation to the ground in a blazing inferno of endless and relentless bullshit.
lindysalsagal
(22,903 posts)That was always their calling card, along with "pro-life." Both of those are gone. Now, they're about controlling women and chaos and corruption.
moondust
(21,283 posts)that the truth is whatever they want it to be?
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)They got a lot of things very wrong.
Ocelot II
(130,420 posts)What they put together hadn't been done before, at least as to size and complexity. Iceland's Alþing, founded in 930, created the longest-running parliament in the world, and was about as close to a representative democracy as the US Constitution produced almost 1,000 years later. So the ideas weren't at all new in 1789, but the mechanisms for implementing them were. There were already 13 independent states that were supposed to affiliate into a single umbrella government, and that's where it got really complicated. They anticipated some of the problems, and they were aware that not every potential president or other representative would be honorable or honest, but they didn't anticipate the corruption of major elements of the entire system, or the rising of a cult following of one utterly corrupt individual. The checks and balances were supposed to keep all three branches in line, but when all three branches go rogue, then what? They foresaw the possibility of bad people getting into government, but they didn't foresee bad people turning large segments of the population bad as well.
Close, but no cigar, guys.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)they were city states. The scale was indeed different.
Ocelot II
(130,420 posts)it's a lot easier to come up with a manageable system to do it. Our federal system is kind of a Rube Goldberg contraption that consistently works well only when most of its managers act in good faith and at least try to follow the Constitution's vague directions.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Who then could imagine analysis which could tell you how to manipulate segments of the population? Or that this could be used long-term to take over parts of each branch of government at state and federal levels.
Walleye
(44,699 posts)And verbally slap his party around until it gets in shape. It is up to the Republicans to fix their party, the Democrats cant do it. I am constantly appalled by the way they crank up the phony hate machine against Joe Biden, the kindest man youll ever meet.
erronis
(23,778 posts)Doubt that he would have survived once Nixon took office.
markodochartaigh
(5,521 posts)I think that you are correct. In order for a democracy to be functional there must be at least two viable parties committed to democracy.
In 2015 the Republicans were going to have a brokered convention to choose another candidate. But they realized that because Trump was so wildly popular with the 80% of their base who are authoritarians, they could not win without him. So they put party before country and chose Trump. They knew what they were doing. A number of corporate Republicans refused to back Trump, even when he was their candidate, something unheard of. They knew that choosing an authoritarian Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy would endanger democracy.
Now the US has only one party committed to democracy. Unless and until the Republicans come up with a viable party committed to democracy, democracy in the US will be one election away from failure.
pandr32
(14,239 posts)Those stories of billionaires with bad intentions meeting on remote islands come to mind. They want a manageable public while they loot the world's resources (including people). They want to control the governments every where they can. They already control much of the media. In the U.S. Christian Nationalism is the plan because it already utilizes American iconography--such as patriotism symbols and notions of "under God". It is easy to convince a simple-minded public that our country was built on Christian, conservative principles.
The Republican Party has now been taken over by Donald Trump. He works with/for the assholes that want to divvy up the world. The Republican Party is being run by him as is no longer a major political party, but a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump.org. and the whole damn family is as corrupt as their patriarch.
Attilatheblond
(8,843 posts)Friend in TX said GOP is threatening GOP voters if they don't vote correctly. Insinuating they can find out how individuals vote. Intimidation is how thugs work.
twodogsbarking
(18,673 posts)Buckeyeblue
(6,349 posts)But for much different reasons. Poor people can't operate within the justice system. They get bad representation. The system takes advantage of their poverty and often times their ignorance of the system.
However, Trump had all the means to get the best attorneys. He just happened to be so guilty that not even a top lawyer could save him.
FakeNoose
(41,496 posts)It was a different story when he was in the White House. But that's all over now, and he's never getting back there again.
RAB910
(4,030 posts)malaise
(295,779 posts)Lock them up
Initech
(108,674 posts)Yeah that ain't happening. I wish we could just remove her, then nothing of value would be lost.
HarryM
(462 posts)Remove its funding. Georgia wouldnt be able to take as much federal funding.
bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)Model35mech
(2,047 posts)I no longer believe SCOTUS rules only on the US Constitution and Law... It now rules based on prioritization of notions of fundamentalist christianity.
I think 3 justices have sold the way they rule, one of them for a few cheap nights in a patron's bedroom.
I don't believe all 9 justices are sober when they make rulings. I'm pretty sure one is always drunk on beer
FakeNoose
(41,496 posts)How our nation will deal with that remains to be seen. If we have the BLUE WAVE in November that we're hoping for, Biden will get the backing he needs in the Senate and House. Vast changes would be possible, once Chump is defeated once and for all.
TSExile
(3,363 posts)So much for character and dignity, right???
hay rick
(9,587 posts)Trump is just a tool for oligarchs and may have outlived his usefulness.
Chai Komanduri summed it up nicely a few nights ago when he summarized the outlook of CEOs and their oligarchic ilk. He said that when it was time to choose they valued "capitalism" over "democracy."
Relevant to that, between Supreme Court appointments, Republican politicians, money in politics, censorship power in media, permissive financial and environmental regulations, etc.- they already have everything they need to maintain power and the ability to loot society. Squabbling and political stalemate preserves a very business-friendly status quo. They don't need to win anything- they just need to not lose badly. They can shake their heads and shrug their shoulders in a display of mock frustration- all the way to the bank.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,411 posts)Win at all costs: How the Republican Party put itself above the country and its Constitution.
Jrose
(1,531 posts)From May, 2024 on they've also become jury deniers.
Mike Johnson is their 'speaker'.
GoodRaisin
(10,884 posts)TSExile
(3,363 posts)I liken the way that T**** lost the election to a toddler who didn't get the last cookie. WAAAAAH...
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Half-step
(127 posts)And take their supreme court justices with them.
CanonRay
(16,160 posts)Notice I didn't say govern. They've not only abandoned our Justice system, they've abandoned the entire structure of our democracy. They will do anything and everything to gain power, and never relinquish it.
krkaufman
(13,961 posts)Trump is just a symptom. (Granted, hes a gangrenous foot, but still just a symptom of a deeper problem.)
Doodley
(11,880 posts)magicarpet
(18,488 posts)... 50 to pass something in the senate. The Fascist ReThug senators are tossing fists full of sand into the gears of government day in and day out.
Number two - enlarge the Supreme Court from 9 to 13. Cancel and dilute the current Fascist majority on the high court.
Fuck Alito.
Fuck Thomas.
Fuck Roberts
And fuck the three other Fascist Theocratic justices who lied to get a life time appointment on the Supreme Court under questionable, fabricated, and fraudulent pretenses.
A soon as Biden's inauguration for his second term January 2025 - these two changes must be made pronto so Biden/Harris can get shit done.
Schumer holds the Senate.
Jeffries takes back the House.
Biden returns to the Oval.
Then show the Fascist ReThugs how to run the government and get shit done for the common folk not just the filthy rich.
Fuck these Khristo-Fascist Theocrats and Hyper-Capitalists who serve only the gluttonous wealthy pigs.
They are decimating the lower and middle classes where the American Dream has morphed into the AmeriKKKan nightmare for far too many, especially the struggling young people trying to build a life, start a family, and live with some semblance of dignity.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)They simply didn't anticipate how it would happen, or by what means, anyway because they were doing something that had few precedents.