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applegrove

(122,672 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 01:59 AM Jun 2024

Trump Embarrasses Himself By Claiming Rising Seas Create Beachfront Property

https://www.politicususa.com/2024/06/02/trump-embarrasses-himself-by-claiming-rising-seas-create-beachfront-property.html/amp

Trump Embarrasses Himself By Claiming Rising Seas Create Beachfront Property


"SNIP..............

Trump said:

The single biggest threat, not global warming, when they say that the seas will rise over the next 400 years, one eighth of an inch, you know, which means basically have a little more beachfront property. Okay. Think of it. The seas are going to rise. Who knows? But this is the big threat. I watched Biden the other night.

It’s the greatest existential. He loves that word because it’s a big word. And he thinks, you know, he thinks he knows he doesn’t even know what the hell the word means. He goes, it’s the greatest existential threat to our country. Global warming.


According to a 2022 NASA study, sea levels are projected to rise at least a foot over the next 20-30 years in the US. The rise will be even higher in Southeast and along the Gulf Coast. The country is not going to have more beachfront property. The country will have what is described as catastrophic flooding.

Rising sea levels don’t create beachfront property, and the levels are going to rise much faster than Trump suggested.

..............SNIP"
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Trump Embarrasses Himself By Claiming Rising Seas Create Beachfront Property (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2024 OP
video Celerity Jun 2024 #1
he looks like dogshit btw, really worn out, like old hotel furniture from a flophouse Celerity Jun 2024 #3
Bwaaaaaah😂 malaise Jun 2024 #15
Damn, that's really stupid even for Trump PatSeg Jun 2024 #23
Well, he's completely wrong, but "embarrassed"? 0rganism Jun 2024 #2
I agree that embarrassment is not in his emotional catalogue. Straw Man Jun 2024 #9
Tangier Island (Chesapeake Bay) must be delighted to hear that keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #4
I'll bet that Biden does not even know what covfefe means. keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #5
As it turns out, they'll be getting what they voted for . . . hatrack Jun 2024 #11
Yeah! Those who insist that it's just erosion cannot explain why the water also rises in the middle of the island. keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #43
They have lost population as people moved away IronLionZion Jun 2024 #38
The prison library will give him oasis Jun 2024 #6
Never happen. Won't wear glasses and deal with learnig disability. Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #24
Maybe audiobooks, I don't believe he can read IronLionZion Jun 2024 #39
I bet all those duncang Jun 2024 #7
And the water table will rise and mess with septic systems. applegrove Jun 2024 #8
It's just another series for HGTV... Layzeebeaver Jun 2024 #10
DeSantis has a 'plan'.... Don't say 'climate change'. keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #42
Well, I guess--if you have gills, that is. n/t DFW Jun 2024 #12
He is right, in a way.... Old Crank Jun 2024 #13
no he is not right in any way jcgoldie Jun 2024 #18
The new beach will be... NameAlreadyTaken Jun 2024 #54
Yes. Old Crank Jun 2024 #55
The Convicted Felon, Smelvis the SF Slobfather malaise Jun 2024 #14
He's too stupid to know when he's embarrassed himself. Goodheart Jun 2024 #16
He's really, really stupid. GoodRaisin Jun 2024 #17
You got everything at Merde a Lago built to withstand a Cat 5 hurricane, Donny? tanyev Jun 2024 #19
I hope we can convince more voters that climate change is our number 1 challenge and hopefully Passages Jun 2024 #20
He doesn't have the self-awareness JustAnotherGen Jun 2024 #21
Well, technically it does create new beachfront Diraven Jun 2024 #22
I thought that too, but I wonder... Shipwack Jun 2024 #26
I never could understand how climate change denial became.... 70sEraVet Jun 2024 #25
They'll stop denying when extractive energy interests run out of energy to extract from the ground. sop Jun 2024 #28
Everytime I read something like this, I... LAS14 Jun 2024 #27
I long for a reporter that isnt afraid Johonny Jun 2024 #29
I Would Love For A Reporter To Stop TCF In His Tracks And Say "Sir - That's A Lie"..... global1 Jun 2024 #35
It doesn't matter how stupid the things that Trump says are, his cult will agree with him. Doodley Jun 2024 #30
No no trDUMPie is correct. magicarpet Jun 2024 #31
Now, now - it's not just TSF embarassing himself on this topic! hatrack Jun 2024 #32
He is channeling Stormy Daniels .. Bo Zarts Jun 2024 #33
The country guy who sang about oceanfront property in Arizona was joking. Aristus Jun 2024 #34
Now If We Can Only Get TCF To Put His Money Where His Mouth Is And....... global1 Jun 2024 #36
Inland areas would become beachfront properties IronLionZion Jun 2024 #37
I doubt he has ever been embarrassed. That takes humility. He has none. spanone Jun 2024 #40
Convicted felon trump is and embarrassment. republianmushroom Jun 2024 #41
"Trump Embarrasses Himself..." LudwigPastorius Jun 2024 #44
Well, Trump is actually correct. The problem is, it creates beachfront property downtown. Martin68 Jun 2024 #45
This was kind of the plot of the classic 1978 Supeman movie thesquanderer Jun 2024 #46
So basically this tells me his plan is to invest in Nevada real estate Don1 Jun 2024 #47
The Thwaites Glacier holds back 10 FEET of sea level rise alone NickB79 Jun 2024 #48
damn strait poozwah Jun 2024 #49
Hmm. He was concerned enough about sea level rise at his Irish golf course at Doonbeg Emrys Jun 2024 #50
He doesn't have to make sense to his rube fan base. They are afraid of losing their gas guzzling, Silent Type Jun 2024 #51
So, yeah, why would he even try to be credible at this point? nt TeamProg Jun 2024 #52
As the ocean rises, old ocean front goes under, new is created. GreenWave Jun 2024 #53

PatSeg

(49,589 posts)
23. Damn, that's really stupid even for Trump
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:23 AM
Jun 2024

He mocks Biden for using the word "existential", claiming Biden likes big words and doesn't even know what it means. Translation: Trump doesn't know what existential means!

Damn, the man really looks like shit. He becomes a little more deflated every day like a leaky tire.

0rganism

(24,527 posts)
2. Well, he's completely wrong, but "embarrassed"?
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 02:03 AM
Jun 2024

I don't know if embarrassment is even in the spectrum of feelings he can experience in this lifetime.

Straw Man

(6,752 posts)
9. I agree that embarrassment is not in his emotional catalogue.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 04:11 AM
Jun 2024

I think it's more like deep, corrosive, soul-destroying shame, instilled in him by a cold and brutal father, which he then projects outward in a typical narcissistic pattern. That's why his accusations are a clear window into his own suppressed anxieties.

keithbvadu2

(39,778 posts)
4. Tangier Island (Chesapeake Bay) must be delighted to hear that
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 02:16 AM
Jun 2024

Tangier Island (Chesapeake Bay) must be delighted to hear that. Their island is being eaten away by rising water. Now the island should get bigger according to Trump's theory. He promised them many dollars. I wonder how much they have gotten so far.

Lots of

hatrack

(60,590 posts)
11. As it turns out, they'll be getting what they voted for . . .
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 07:33 AM
Jun 2024

EDIT

The story caught the attention of President Donald Trump after Eskridge also told the reporter that he loved Trump “as much as any family member I got.” About 90 percent of voters on the island supported Trump in 2016 and 2020, and “Trump 2024” flags fly from fishing shanties and greet tour boats as they pull into the docks.

As Eskridge tells it, he was out crabbing when a fellow resident told him the president had called to talk to him. “President of what?” Eskridge said — only to soon hear Trump’s voice on the other end of the line at home. He said Trump told him that he also believed that rising sea level was not a threat to the island, and that the residents had nothing to worry about — Tangier would be around for hundreds of years to come.

The story exploded. Soon Eskridge was on national television onstage at a CNN town hall telling former president Al Gore that he had lived on the island his whole life and the sea level didn’t look any different to him: “If sea level rise is occurring, why am I not seeing signs of it?” The erosion he could see.Gore said a big challenge for scientists was being able to translate the threats of climate change in an understandable way so that people “can see the consequences in their own lives.”

EDIT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/09/02/tangier-island-virginia-congress-funding/

keithbvadu2

(39,778 posts)
43. Yeah! Those who insist that it's just erosion cannot explain why the water also rises in the middle of the island.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 01:24 PM
Jun 2024

I still wonder how much money they actually got from Trump's promise.

IronLionZion

(46,850 posts)
38. They have lost population as people moved away
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jun 2024

I doubt they find many buyers interested in moving there.

The ones who stay are either stuck for financial reasons or are in MAGA-fueled denial of what they can see with their own eyes.

duncang

(3,334 posts)
7. I bet all those
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 03:48 AM
Jun 2024

Houses people own already on the brink of going in the ocean won’t appreciate it. I’ve seen when the new beach front lot was last years one street off the ocean. Must be great for them. When mar a lago has water lapping at its doors will he appreciate it? Even just a little change means more flooding. I guess if you want to pay more for less insurance coverage it’s great.

applegrove

(122,672 posts)
8. And the water table will rise and mess with septic systems.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 03:51 AM
Jun 2024

Last edited Mon Jun 3, 2024, 05:07 AM - Edit history (1)

I cringe when I see beachfront bargain homes people are investing in on HGTV.

Layzeebeaver

(1,858 posts)
10. It's just another series for HGTV...
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 04:25 AM
Jun 2024

"Beachfront Disasters". where "multi-million dollar home" owners are "forced" to vacate their residence because of DEMOCRAT policies.

Please make this a thing on FOX.

Old Crank

(4,510 posts)
13. He is right, in a way....
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 07:43 AM
Jun 2024

There will be new beah front property. After the existing beach front is underwater.
It will also mean that Florida will become a, much, smaller state.
I hope Georgia has a plan for the refugees...

jcgoldie

(11,971 posts)
18. no he is not right in any way
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:25 AM
Jun 2024

He said "basically you have a little more beachfront property." In addition to being a completely ignorant take on climate change by implying that is the primary concern, that's also precisely wrong geographically speaking. The more sea levels rise, the less beachfront property there is, not more.

malaise

(277,353 posts)
14. The Convicted Felon, Smelvis the SF Slobfather
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 07:56 AM
Jun 2024

aka Don Poorleone, the Nodfather is a fucking dunce He doesn’t have a fucking clue on the subject. To use Trini French creole speech, he is ‘making as eeef’ (making as if) as in fucking making it up as he goes along.
What is frightening is that he is allowed to get away with this undiluted fuckery. I am so effin sick of this criminal buffoon.

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
16. He's too stupid to know when he's embarrassed himself.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:10 AM
Jun 2024

And his "poorly educated" followers think he's done quite the opposite.

GoodRaisin

(9,533 posts)
17. He's really, really stupid.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:21 AM
Jun 2024

Every now and then he revalidates it for all who have eyes to see and ears to hear. Which, umfortunately, is way too few.

tanyev

(44,311 posts)
19. You got everything at Merde a Lago built to withstand a Cat 5 hurricane, Donny?
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:26 AM
Jun 2024

You got 100% insurance reimbursement on your Florida properties? Good luck with that.

Passages

(772 posts)
20. I hope we can convince more voters that climate change is our number 1 challenge and hopefully
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:33 AM
Jun 2024

Center and Center-left Independents will vote for Biden in bigger numbers this November.

The fans of Trump find his comments as not dangerous but merely more self-validating. When you think about the deal Trump offered to oil giants, it doesn't matter if he accepts climate change science or not, he affirmed his presidency to enable them for money.

Shipwack

(2,292 posts)
26. I thought that too, but I wonder...
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:41 AM
Jun 2024

After sea levels rise to a great enough extent, I don't think the new waterline would be "beachfront". It'd more likely be "marsh-front", no? Not really conducive to building on or around. Seriously asking.

Granted, barring human interaction, in a few hundred (thousand?) years there might be a beach again. I'm just not sure. Sometimes a biome is a result of unique circumstances. If you clearcut a forest you don't necessarily get the same type of forest back...

70sEraVet

(4,103 posts)
25. I never could understand how climate change denial became....
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:39 AM
Jun 2024

a core principal of Republican beliefs. I think the US is the only country in the world with one of the major political parties having climate change denial as a REQUIRED stance! I'm sure such a political party wouldn't fare well in India right now!

sop

(11,078 posts)
28. They'll stop denying when extractive energy interests run out of energy to extract from the ground.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:44 AM
Jun 2024

LAS14

(14,442 posts)
27. Everytime I read something like this, I...
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:43 AM
Jun 2024

... mourn the fact that the people that need to hear it will never hear it!!! Millions of people listen only to their favorite feeds on their phones. That don't even KNOW about global warming except a stupid idea concocted by the extremist left.

Johonny

(21,848 posts)
29. I long for a reporter that isnt afraid
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:46 AM
Jun 2024

That will just stop and correct him after every stupid comment.

global1

(25,857 posts)
35. I Would Love For A Reporter To Stop TCF In His Tracks And Say "Sir - That's A Lie".....
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 11:54 AM
Jun 2024

"You are lying directly to my face and you know it. Why do you continually lie to the American People? Have you no shame?"

Yes - stop the TCF in his tracks and call him on it to his face.

Someone has got to do this and get it on camera.

Doodley

(10,144 posts)
30. It doesn't matter how stupid the things that Trump says are, his cult will agree with him.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 10:01 AM
Jun 2024

Democratic administrations need to put aside billions for public information campaigns.

magicarpet

(16,140 posts)
31. No no trDUMPie is correct.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 10:14 AM
Jun 2024

Global warming creates brand new beach front property,... 15 miles inland from the original coast.

Only thing is billions and billions of dollars of former beach front property is now under 10 feet of ocean water now.

Drill baby drill,
Burn more dirty coal.
It is God's Will that man take Dominion over the world's resources and extract them to abandon even if it destabilizes and destroys eco-systems causing permanent and irreparable harm.

Aristus

(68,067 posts)
34. The country guy who sang about oceanfront property in Arizona was joking.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 11:46 AM
Jun 2024

And he concluded that if you bought his ocean-view Tucson spread, he would throw the Golden Gate Bridge in for free.

Guess the joke was too complex for Trump.

global1

(25,857 posts)
36. Now If We Can Only Get TCF To Put His Money Where His Mouth Is And.......
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jun 2024

get him to buy up all the current shoreline in Florida.

You know how successful he is in his investments. How many bankruptcies has he encountered?

IronLionZion

(46,850 posts)
37. Inland areas would become beachfront properties
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 12:55 PM
Jun 2024

as current beachfront properties become underwater properties. You can see it happening already in many parts of America including South Florida where that idiot lives.

Russia loves global warming of course. It opens up arctic sea routes for their ships.

thesquanderer

(12,286 posts)
46. This was kind of the plot of the classic 1978 Supeman movie
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 05:24 PM
Jun 2024

Lex Luthor wanted to destroy the west coast of California so that the worthless land further in (which he was buying up) would suddenly become valuable beachfront property.

That's probably where TFG got the idea.

Don1

(1,659 posts)
47. So basically this tells me his plan is to invest in Nevada real estate
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 05:57 PM
Jun 2024

like Lex Luther.

That's probably also why he wanted to buy Greenland.

NickB79

(19,555 posts)
48. The Thwaites Glacier holds back 10 FEET of sea level rise alone
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 06:23 PM
Jun 2024

And it's rapidly melting from underneath now.

poozwah

(257 posts)
49. damn strait
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 07:32 PM
Jun 2024

I've got some ocean front property in Arizona
From my front porch, you can see the sea
I've got some ocean front property in Arizona
If you'll buy that, I'll throw the Golden Gate in free

george said it best!

Emrys

(7,799 posts)
50. Hmm. He was concerned enough about sea level rise at his Irish golf course at Doonbeg
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:02 PM
Jun 2024

to want to build a barrier wall to try to stop flooding:

Trump acknowledges climate change — at his golf course
...
A permit application for the wall, filed by Trump International Golf Links Ireland and reviewed by POLITICO, explicitly cites global warming and its consequences — increased erosion due to rising sea levels and extreme weather this century — as a chief justification for building the structure.

The zoning application raises further questions about how the billionaire developer would confront a risk he has publicly minimized but that has been identified as a defining challenge of this era by world leaders, global industry and the American military. His public disavowal of climate science at the same time he moves to secure his own holdings against the effects of climate change also illustrates the conflict between his political rhetoric and the realities of running a business with seaside assets in the 21st century.
...
Trump snatched up the golf resort from a distressed buyer in February 2014, after a winter in which an unusual number of severe storms hit the west coast of Ireland. The businessman immediately took an active hand in advancing and promoting his Irish investment.
...
The statement acknowledges one Irish government study that assumes a steady rate of erosion through 2050, but argues that the study fails to account for the effects of climate change: “If the predictions of an increase in sea level rise as a result of global warming prove correct, however, it is likely that there will be a corresponding increase in coastal erosion rates not just in Doughmore Bay but around much of the coastline of Ireland. In our view, it could reasonably be expected that the rate of sea level rise might become twice of that presently occurring. … As a result, we would expect the rate of dune recession to increase.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436


Irish planners reject Trump golf resort's plan to build wall
Officials say proposed 38,000-tonne sea barrier could damage sand dunes at Doonbeg resort

The climate crisis just became more personal for Donald Trump, after authorities in Ireland rejected an attempt by his Doonbeg golf resort to build a wall to combat rising sea levels.

The planning agency An Bord Pleanála said on Wednesday that the proposed 38,000-tonne rock barrier at Doughmore Bay could damage dunes that straddle the golf course in County Clare, on the Atlantic coast.

Trump International Golf Links Ireland Enterprises Limited, which is owned by the US president’s family, wanted to build barriers to protect fairways from exceptionally heavy storms and rising sea levels – evidence of a changing climate.
...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/irish-planners-reject-donald-trump-golf-resort-plan-build-wall-doonbeg-ireland

Silent Type

(6,097 posts)
51. He doesn't have to make sense to his rube fan base. They are afraid of losing their gas guzzling,
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:11 PM
Jun 2024

loud-assed trucks, etc.

GreenWave

(8,832 posts)
53. As the ocean rises, old ocean front goes under, new is created.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:13 PM
Jun 2024

I live 4 miles from the Atlantic. After time my house will be right near the rising ocean,

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