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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,495 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:50 PM Jun 2024

Why a Senate Republican tantrum over Trump's conviction matters

Last edited Tue Jun 4, 2024, 01:33 AM - Edit history (1)

Sen. Mike Lee and nine of his GOP colleagues aren't just furious about Donald Trump being held accountable, they're also throwing an important tantrum.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/senate-republican-tantrum-trumps-conviction-matters-rcna155146
Almost immediately after the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape rocked the 2016 presidential campaign, Sen. Mike Lee made headlines with an unexpected reaction to the controversy. In a Facebook video that’s no longer online, the Utah Republican urged Donald Trump to end his candidacy and allow GOP officials to nominate someone else......

At the time, the Utahan still appeared eager to present himself to the public as a serious and principled lawmaker. Eight years later, Lee has adopted a dramatically different partisan posture in the wake of Trump’s criminal conviction. The Associated Press reported:

Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, circulated his own letter in which he suggested it was the White House that “made a mockery” of the rule of law and altered politics in “un-American” ways. He and other senators threatened to stall Senate business until Republicans take action. “Those who turned our judicial system into a political cudgel must be held accountable,” Lee said.


It is, by any fair measure, a curious document. The day after a jury of Trump’s peers held him accountable for his crimes, Lee took the lead in circulating this one-paragraph statement. On social media, the GOP senator declared, “Strongly worded statements are not enough. ... We are no longer cooperating with any Democrat [sic] legislative priorities or nominations, and we invite all concerned Senators to join our stand.”.....

The procedural nuances matter. The Senate, on a day-to-day basis, functions in large part by unanimous consent. Yes, the institution often appears slow and sclerotic, but determined members still have the capacity to make matters even worse through tactical delays.

And it appears that Lee and his far-right colleagues intend to do exactly that — not because Senate Democrats have done anything wrong, and not because the White House was responsible for Trump’s prosecution, but because of an imaginary conspiracy that Republicans prefer to treat as true.

Or put another way, Lee and nine other Senate Republicans will deliberately stand in the way of their institution doing the people’s business because local prosecutors held a private citizen accountable for his crimes. These GOP senators apparently believe their job is to elevate Trump’s interests above the nation’s interests.

What’s less clear, however, is the possible remedy. What, exactly, do Lee and his cohorts expect to happen? What ransom do they expect to be paid in order to allow the Senate to function as it should?

If the answer is that federal officials will somehow meddle in a local criminal matter, intervening to free Trump from accountability for his felonies, that isn’t going to happen — because it can’t.
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Why a Senate Republican tantrum over Trump's conviction matters (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 OP
Suffering from imaginary illness. They're not fit for office. Emile Jun 2024 #1
Every member of both congresses should be attached to convicted criminal Trump Bev54 Jun 2024 #11
Eh, it really doesn't matter. TwilightZone Jun 2024 #2
I find it too weird. Biophilic Jun 2024 #3
The kompromat from Putin and Prince Bonesaw JT45242 Jun 2024 #7
Why Isn't Biden Calling That Out HandmaidsTaleUntold Jun 2024 #9
Don't Worry about President Biden.. he and his Cha Jun 2024 #14
I'm Not Worried. It's An Actual Question HandmaidsTaleUntold Jun 2024 #15
Why do you think he has solid evidence NanaCat Jun 2024 #16
Who else would they play to? TwilightZone Jun 2024 #12
Delusional to believe Pie in the Sky exists, it's a mental illness bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #4
They're not psychotic NanaCat Jun 2024 #17
I'm confused COL Mustard Jun 2024 #5
... ancianita Jun 2024 #6
All of those Republicans would probably have voted against President Biden anyway DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #8
The psychopath demigod NanaCat Jun 2024 #18
Why didn't Nixon's GOP do this? Because, not a cult. What is the purpose of a cult? lostnfound Jun 2024 #19
I'm betting my Roger Marshall was one of them KS Toronado Jun 2024 #10
Kcik.. TY Cha Jun 2024 #13
Imaginary Conspiracies? czarjak Jun 2024 #20

Bev54

(13,428 posts)
11. Every member of both congresses should be attached to convicted criminal Trump
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 11:46 PM
Jun 2024

by the dems. Every damn one of them, say exactly what Trump has done both civil and criminal and show that is who their republican party members are supporting. Make them responsible for supporting a fraudster, rapist, insurrectionist, thief of national secrets who had a years long affair with one woman and had sex with a porn star, while his 3rd wife was home with their newborn. Make them own this shit.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
2. Eh, it really doesn't matter.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 08:57 PM
Jun 2024

It's nothing new -- they excused the behavior and crimes long before the trials even started. They've railed about the process as long as the process has been ongoing.

They're not going to influence anyone who wasn't already all in for Trump. It looks hypocritical, of course, but that train left the station a very long time ago.

Biophilic

(6,539 posts)
3. I find it too weird.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:03 PM
Jun 2024

They are all playing to just one person. How did trump become more important than their constituents or the constitution or the rule of law. Suddenly nothing and no one else matters. It’s like all these people are Stepford wives with no will of their own and absolutely no caring about anything else except their lord god trump. It’s really, really weird. And scary.

JT45242

(4,032 posts)
7. The kompromat from Putin and Prince Bonesaw
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 10:58 PM
Jun 2024

The RNC hack and other dirt held on them by Russian and Saudi sources keep them all in line except for the literal handful who aren't dirty (kinzinger, etc )

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
12. Who else would they play to?
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 12:05 AM
Jun 2024

He's their presidential candidate and they're stuck with him.

They've never cared about the Constitution or their constituents or the rule of law. They care about power, and getting Trump elected is the easiest way to keep that and press their agenda.

bucolic_frolic

(55,044 posts)
4. Delusional to believe Pie in the Sky exists, it's a mental illness
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:03 PM
Jun 2024

Medications do exist for those so afflicted.

COL Mustard

(8,196 posts)
5. I'm confused
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 10:47 PM
Jun 2024

I thought Joe was too sleepy to mastermind a scheme like this. Now I’m supposed to believe he’s the puppet master pulling all these strings? I am really confused.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
8. All of those Republicans would probably have voted against President Biden anyway
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 11:04 PM
Jun 2024

on all of these nominees or issues....

What they are doing here is merely pitiful 'grandstanding'
in support of their convicted felon presidential nominee---

and in doing such, they have totally abandoned any pretense that they support
law and order, the rule of law, or simple morality, or simple "christian morality"....

Yes, Jesus Christ supported forgiveness for 'sinners'--
for those who REPENTED of their sins!

Instead of repenting, Trump and his Republicans "double down" on all of their crimes

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
18. The psychopath demigod
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 03:33 AM
Jun 2024

Has weird ideas about what constitutes sin. Like thinking it's a sin not to murder disobedient children, or to reject the nonsense he peddles.

lostnfound

(17,510 posts)
19. Why didn't Nixon's GOP do this? Because, not a cult. What is the purpose of a cult?
Tue Jun 4, 2024, 04:29 AM
Jun 2024

To maintain a clear order that concentrates power.

When people are kept in a mental lockstep believing absurdities, they are controllable. Like a team of horses can be controlled by the man holding the reins.

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