Why I watch Thom Hartmann

[gab13by13]

He does factual news and does his homework not guided by teleprompters which are read by cable news anchors.

I must give a shout out to Rhiannon for posting segments from Thom's broadcasts.

I doubt that most people click on the videos so I will summarize some of Thom's segment.

One main talking point is how the MSM has failed to talk about an important conclusion that was reached at TSF's conviction, TSF stole the election from Hillary. That was one reason that made a misdemeanor turn into a felony.

TSF, being a convicted felon, cannot own a liquor license in Florida. He will have to transfer the license to one of his spawn.

At TSF's first sentencing hearing, he will be drug tested, not sure if by urine or blood, or both.

Thom's show starts at noon on Freespeechtv.org, and there is no charge.

[BlueTsunami2018]

1. Yes but because of his antics over 2020, saying that makes us look just like him.

Which is, of course, the point.

If everything is true then nothing is true. If nothing is true then everything is true. All of this media chaos shit is to eliminate truth of any sort and let it be simply what people believe.

It works wonderfully and paralyzes everything.

[gab13by13]

2. A jury in a court of law

had to decide that what TSF did was done to influence the election. The jury had to make that decision in order to make a misdemeanor a felony.

Thom is just reporting the facts from the trial, a jury decided, basically, that TSF stole the election from Hillary.

TSF also colluded with Russia, Robert Mueller indicted and convicted dozens of Russians for interfering in the 2016 election

Surely you are not comparing what happened in 2016 with TSF's baseless claims about 2020?

Saying that TSF stole the 2016 election does not make us just like him, one statement is true and one statement is false.

[BlueTsunami2018]

5. In the general public's eye, it would.

Because they have the memories and attention span of goldfish.

In a perfect world, nuance would matter but it’s not a perfect world and it would, true as it may be, make us look the same as those whackos and might even give his false claims credibility.

These people we’re up against are diabolical, they know exactly what they’re doing.

[brooklynite]

3. I voted for Hillary, worked for Hillary and contributed to Hillary...

…and Trump didn’t steal the election. The Access Hollywood tape had already established Trump’s character. Undecided voters knew who Trump was and didn’t care.

[SocialDemocrat61]

4. True

The corporate media and Russian bots did it for him

[ECL213]

7. So, the Russian interference and Comey's last minute bullshit had no impact on swing voters?

[brooklynite]

14. Not in the way you're thinking

There’s no law that says Presidential campaigns have to be truthful. The email stories didn’t take Democrats and make them Republicans. They gave a push to voters who were already unhappy about Clinton at a point when it was too late to do anything about it.

When I was canvassing in Cleveland - a supposed safe D area - I ran into doz me of people on supposedly clean lists of committed Democrats. The real problem (which two State Party Chairs confirmed to me) is that the Clinton campaign assumed that people who voted for Obama would vote for her and never put in the effort at the front ten to confirm that.

[ECL213]

24. One doesn't negate the other.

And just because you didn't hear it from dozens of people while you were canvassing in Cleveland, Russian interference and Comey's bullshit absolutely took swing voters away from Clinton, and there ARE laws about foreign election interference.

[Farmer-Rick]

16. Trump used numerous illegal means to get votes

He got Putin's funding and Russian tax dollars, he got a swarm of poorly paid Russian trolls and spies to help direct his campaign. Not legal!!!

He used many catch and kill journalist to hide all his other sexual perversions by falsifying
business records. Not legal.

The Access Hollywood tapes was just talk. Sleeping with porn stars, sexually approaching Epstein for young girls, hiding abortion payouts and sexual attacks on women match up the words with his actions. If all of it had come out then yeah you could say everyone knew who he was.

But he is a mirage. A fake persona sold to the world by NBC. America did not know who Trump was when they voted him in 2016. People believed he was a successful business man when he routinely failed to pay banks and filed numerous bankruptcies. When Comey came out with the letter trashing Hillary, it was the nail in the coffin for her.

It was all these things that stole the election for Trump. This was not politics as usual.

[brooklynite]

18. Catch and kill was completely legal.

What wasn’t legal was not reporting the expenditures as an in kind campaign contribution.

[dlk]

19. Without a doubt, there was unprecedented malfeasance on the part of Republicans, in 2016

Whether it was Trump payoffs to hide damaging information, Comey’s partisan disclosure of an ongoing FBI investigation, or the Russian psy ops, and hackers. Republicans, in their rabid misogyny, pulled out all of the stops to defeat Hillary.

And yes, too many Americans fell prey to their dirty tactics, as well as showing the world there are too many Americans with a deep misogynistic streak. We have very far to go.

[mopinko]

6. i like thom, but his adhd does him in w me. his cognitive bias is there if u look.

he consumes so much data every day that he inevitably swallows some gobbledygook.
like rt isnt rly russian propaganda.

he’s a smart guy worth listening to tho. just make sure u check your own bias.

[BoRaGard]

8. Smelvis (R) "...stole the election from Hillary"

There you have it.

We've known that since 2016.

But corporate media sees no profit in that fundamental fact.

[jaxexpat]

11. ....and their boards of directors are solidly against fundamental facts on American airwaves.

It's sort of fundamentalism's anti-fundamentalist philosophy. It's hard to get to the to the bottom of it with.......words, basically.

[TheRickles]

9. Will the results of his drug testing be made public?

[hay rick]

10. A perfect drug test, the most perfect drug test in the history of the world, is on the way.

[TheRickles]

20. Trump might think it's a bad thing if it comes back negative.

[hay rick]

21. LOL. Obviously you forgot about the perfect IQ test.

[TheRickles]

23. "My drug test was more positive than yours." That's something he could brag about.

[lark]

12. Bet he refuses to take the drug test

He would fail

[DownriverDem]

13. Have listened to Thom

for years. I agree with him most of the time. I disagree when he attacks folks who have Medical Advantage plans without regard to them not being able to buy the needed supplemental medical plan and drug plan. No one seems to understand that many folks can not afford the exta expense. We clearly need to fix Medicare without attacking folks.

[multigraincracker]

15. I fist met him in East Lansing in 1970

Back then it was the VN war. Later, after I found out I had ADHD, I read all of his books on the subject and learned a lot about disability.
Same guy after all of those years.

[Rhiannon12866]

17. Thanks so much for pointing out what a great show that Thom Hartmann has, obviously I'm a fan of his, too!

And I'd like to also point out that Thom Hartmann is a long time member of DU! He's mentioned DU before on his show and he's a big fan of EarlG's Pic of the Moment!

[Kid Berwyn]

22. Thom is TOPS!

Guy's been on to the fascist gangsters for a long time.

An example from 2015, Thom referred to this post from DU:

Wanna Know Who Made Racism ''Acceptable Again'' in the good ol' USA?

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6864076