Arizona senator puts ignorance on display with stunning call to put Jesus in government

[Nevilledog]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2024/06/06/anthony-kern-christian-nationalist/74003835007/

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In an interview last week, Kern went full-on Christian nationalist, defending his now-vetoed Ten Commandments bill with the usual blather about godly Republicans and demonic Democrats.

“In short, Republicans, they want our kids to learn about God,” Kern told Victory News. “Democrats want our kids to have nothing to do with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. They don’t want to mention it. They’d rather have abortions and they’d rather have transgender surgery behind parents’ back.”

I suppose I could turn that around and say that Kern wants nothing to do with the United States Constitution (something you might already have guessed from his role as a fake elector).

In just a two-minute interview, Kern, who is now running for Congress, offered a glaring view of just how ignorant he is about American history, noting that Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs vetoed his bill citing separation of church and state.

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[Lovie777]

1. It means put fake Christians in charge..............

[NanaCat]

10. Stop. Seriously

There are no fake christians.

First of all, by your own hate cult's rules, you are not the judge of who is or isn't a christian. That's supposed to be the job of someone you worship. So when you call someone a fake christian, it turns out that YOU are the fake christian for assuming you have the power to judge.

Second, when you peddle that filthy lie that these people aren't christians, that implies these people are awful because they're not christians, because you seem to think all christians must be good, ergo all of the bad people can only be those who aren't christians.

And that's a shameless, bigoted lie.

People who are not christian have bloody F all to do with creating the bad christians. They're all on the christian cult, and no one else. Clean up your own back yard of the awful people in it, rather than blaming everyone else for the hate cult's failures.

[Takket]

2. parents should get to decide what, if any, exposure to religion their kids have. not the government

forced religious participation takes that freedom away from Americans.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

3. Republicans want absolute control: over your religion, books, speech, thinking, and body.

[lastlib]

9. They want us down on our knees in the church of *their* choice....

Control. Power. It's all they think about, unless you add greed.

They give no thought to the idea that the government that can enforce THEIR religion could also turn around and enforce MY religion on them--whether they like it or not. That is WHY we keep government OUT of religion, and religion OUT of government.

[tanyev]

4. Well then, Mr. Kern, what's your obsession with the Ten Commandments?

This is the commandment Jesus gave:

John 13:34-35
English Standard Version

34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

[jmowreader]

7. Apparently people are supposed to see these posters and instantly become Christians

The Ten Commandments, analyzed as they appear on a Ten Commandments monument:

1. You will have no other gods before me.
Written in an era when Christianity was just getting started, this told its new practitioners - who weren't necessarily voluntary converts to this new faith - to stop practicing their old religion.

2. You will not make any graven images.
Apparently this is supposed to be "you will not make pictures of God." Since a LOT of Christians have pictures of Jesus in their homes, give their kids picture books with drawings of Jesus in them and so on and so forth this is one that not even Christians follow.

3. Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
The Jewish faith does this A LOT - when the Sabbath hits they basically close down. Christians, not so much.

The next few ones are the basis of any polite society.
4. Honor your mother and father.
5. Don't kill anyone.
6. Don't commit adultery.
7. Don't steal.
8. Don't lie.
9. Don't covet your neighbor's house.
10. Don't covet your neighbor's family or his possessions.

[NanaCat]

11. He wasn't talking in general.

Did you read the verses before that 'conveniently' cherry-picked tidbit? He wasn't speaking to a public crowd, but to his disciples. So he meant for the disciples to love each other. If he wanted it to be everyone, he would have said that. He didn't.

Funny how christians always 'conveniently forget' to mention that.

Furthermore, that same deity supported a great deal of unloving things like, oh, hell. Do let us know how the permanent torture he repeatedly advocates is 'loving one another.'

I'll wait.

Oh--and he especially spelled out that he considered all of those despicable and unloving laws from the OT to be in effect until the end of the earth. You know, like the laws about forcing rape victims to marry their assailants, selling daughters into sex slavery, selling many others into general slavery and murdering disobedient children (he even advocates for this one explicitly in Matthew 15!), witches, non-believers, homosexuals...

Or did you 'conveniently forget' Matthew 5:18?

Funny how christians always 'forget' that part, too.

[TSExile]

5. Apparently these people are not familiar with Jesus saying:

"My Kingdom is not of this world."

[NanaCat]

12. Kinda difficult to be of any world

When zero evidence supports any claims of its existence.
That alleged kingdom might as well be santa's workshop. They both have the same amount of evidence supporting them: None.

[Deuxcents]

6. What if a Jewish or Muslim Senator put their religion in bills so Christian kids would have to learn of their beliefs?

Religious institutions belong in religious institutions, not public schools. Teach the Constitution, how about it?

[Jacson6]

8. Jesus Visits Tim Tebow and The Denver Broncos - SNL

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Just a thought.