Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kentuck

(115,622 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:16 AM Jun 2024

Just a tiny conspiracy theory about the House Intel Committee.

From out of the blue, Speaker Johnson appointed Scott Perry and Dr Ronnie Jackson to the Committee. Their loyalty to Donald Trump far exceeds their loyalty to their country or our Constitution, in my opinion.

But why? Was it something he thought up by himself? Or was he directed to appoint these two gentlemen?

In my opinion, Trump demanded he do it. But doesn't Trump have enough things on his plate than worrying about who is on the Intel Committee? Obviously not.

I believe the House Intel Committee is a conduit by which Trump passes intelligence to Putin and the Russian oligarchs in this country.

Since Trump no longer has a security clearance for the secret intelligence, what better way for him to continue to receive the information than thru his sycophants on the House Intel Committee. I'm sure that is what he did with Devin Nunes when he was on the Committee. And Trump, Boris Epshteyn, and Vladimir Putin continue to receive national intelligence.

It seems that this would have been low on Trump's priority list, unless he was doing it for someone else? Isn't jail enough to keep his mind occupied?

In my small conspiratorial mind, Putin has his claws deep into American intelligence. He has used Trump since Day One, in my opinion.

35 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Just a tiny conspiracy theory about the House Intel Committee. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2024 OP
Makes sense to me. S/V Loner Jun 2024 #1
Absolutely dlbell Jun 2024 #2
You could be right on this vapor2 Jun 2024 #3
TFG should be wiretapped by FBI and CIA. no_hypocrisy Jun 2024 #4
Doesn't our CIA have MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #10
After January 6th and the documents fiasco there could be an active FISA warrant Ponietz Jun 2024 #14
That certainly seems possible duckworth969 Jun 2024 #31
IMO - this is the obvious reason. nt FHRRK Jun 2024 #5
Agreed, obvious. returnee Jun 2024 #24
I commented on this the other day... appmanga Jun 2024 #6
And aren't convicted felons denied access to top secret intelligence? kentuck Jun 2024 #8
No. former9thward Jun 2024 #17
No formal security clearance... returnee Jun 2024 #25
No. former9thward Jun 2024 #28
Ugh duckworth969 Jun 2024 #32
I posted pretty much the same thing edhopper Jun 2024 #7
I read other speculation that it was engineered by Moscow Marge jmbar2 Jun 2024 #9
And the motion would be overwhelmingly defeated just like last time. former9thward Jun 2024 #23
Since Trump's loyalty is to Trump, oasis Jun 2024 #11
"...at direction of Trump..." moondust Jun 2024 #12
Hopefully they feed them some bogus intel and sniff them out. IrishAfricanAmerican Jun 2024 #13
This is the way. roscoeroscoe Jun 2024 #18
On the other hand, this would be the perfect oppurtunity for a sting operation by the committee and the FBI Cheezoholic Jun 2024 #15
There are people in Congress that are now apparently working for Putin. Go listen to Tommy Tubberville..... ashredux Jun 2024 #16
Not far fetched from the traitor and co-conspirators. Bluethroughu Jun 2024 #19
President Biden ought to block any intel agency from appearing maxrandb Jun 2024 #20
This is absolutely the reason. Again, they're doing what they're doing because they can. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #21
Johnson appointed them with no discussion with the Committee Chairman malaise Jun 2024 #22
You're Probably Right Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #26
Bet so duckworth969 Jun 2024 #33
Trump wanted US to establish "impenetrable Cyber Security Unit" with Putin in 2017. Kid Berwyn Jun 2024 #27
Jared did not qualify for a top level security clearance so Trump ordered that it be given to Jared. keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #29
I think you're right duckworth969 Jun 2024 #30
I agree. He's still getting money from the russians and saudis, and who knows who else, BComplex Jun 2024 #34
Speaker Johnson faces blowback after following Trump's directive LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #35

dlbell

(56 posts)
2. Absolutely
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:24 AM
Jun 2024

Someone thought this up and it wasn't the Shartcannon or the Speaker of the Shartcannon House.

no_hypocrisy

(55,377 posts)
4. TFG should be wiretapped by FBI and CIA.
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jun 2024

If not for protecting the country, then to use blackmail to prevent firings.

returnee

(980 posts)
24. Agreed, obvious.
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 03:11 PM
Jun 2024

It’s been about intel all along. What do we think all those boxes of intel at the Mar-a-lago Kremlin outpost is all about. I cannot for the life of me understand why he is not in custody. Unless perhaps this was discovered early and he’s being used for funneling false info to Putin. I guess I can dream.

appmanga

(1,530 posts)
6. I commented on this the other day...
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:37 AM
Jun 2024

...I believe Trump feels, despite being his party's nominee, the Biden Administration will either deny him intelligence briefings, or will substantially curtail the amount that'll be share with him. This bit of rarfuckery bets him around that and should be setting off huge alarm bells in the IC and elsewhere because it indicates he has an outsized interest in obtaining classified information. Members of Congress, by law, aren't allowed to share any information discussed in the briefings they get, but does anyone trust an insurrectionist and his fellow cult member and former Trump Dr. Feelgood to obey the law? Especially when they think a Trump win assisted by intel info traded to Russia will allow them to be pardoned.

We have a dedicated Fifth Column in this country and if they're not stopped, we're headed for unbridled authoritarianism.

kentuck

(115,622 posts)
8. And aren't convicted felons denied access to top secret intelligence?
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:42 AM
Jun 2024

This would be of great value to Putin and Russia.

edhopper

(37,519 posts)
7. I posted pretty much the same thing
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:39 AM
Jun 2024

yesterday.

The big question is why do the MSM, the DOJ and the Intelligence Agencies look away while this is happening.

No one has answered that question.

jmbar2

(8,173 posts)
9. I read other speculation that it was engineered by Moscow Marge
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:50 AM
Jun 2024

He either had to add them to Intelligence, or she would put out another motion to vacate the office.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
23. And the motion would be overwhelmingly defeated just like last time.
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 02:35 PM
Jun 2024

So much for that CT.

moondust

(21,352 posts)
12. "...at direction of Trump..."
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jun 2024

I've seen it reported by several news outlets that Johnson appointed them "at the direction of" or "at the urging of" TSF.

House speaker appoints two Trump loyalists to intelligence committee

Very concerning that the guy who illegally took classified documents home with him and tried to hide them from FBI agents got a couple of his most ardent toadies appointed to the very secretive intel committee.

Cheezoholic

(3,904 posts)
15. On the other hand, this would be the perfect oppurtunity for a sting operation by the committee and the FBI
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 01:36 PM
Jun 2024

At least bait the fuckers and see where it goes. None of these morons are smart enough to see the trap for the cheese

ashredux

(2,959 posts)
16. There are people in Congress that are now apparently working for Putin. Go listen to Tommy Tubberville.....
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 01:38 PM
Jun 2024

maxrandb

(17,499 posts)
20. President Biden ought to block any intel agency from appearing
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 02:05 PM
Jun 2024

at this committee until those dipsticks are removed.

Or, better yet, leak them some bogus intel and see if it ends up in Moscow. Then, it's off to GITMO for those two "bag of dicks".

At some point, President Biden's oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, tr*×ps Congress' oversight concerns.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
21. This is absolutely the reason. Again, they're doing what they're doing because they can.
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 02:17 PM
Jun 2024

Deep State Witch

(12,756 posts)
26. You're Probably Right
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jun 2024

Except that it's probably a two-way connection. Perry and Jackson - who couldn't get a security clearance if they weren't in Congress - are probably funneling information to both the Russians and to Trump.

Kid Berwyn

(25,090 posts)
27. Trump wanted US to establish "impenetrable Cyber Security Unit" with Putin in 2017.
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 03:25 PM
Jun 2024
Trump backtracks on cyber unit with Russia after harsh criticism

By Phil Stewart and Valerie Volcovici
Reuters, July 10, 2017

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Sunday backtracked on his push for a cyber security unit with Russia, tweeting that he did not think it could happen, hours after his proposal was harshly criticized by Republicans who said Moscow could not be trusted.

Trump said on Twitter early on Sunday that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed on Friday forming "an impenetrable Cyber Security unit" to address issues like the risk of cyber meddling in elections.

The idea appeared to be a political non-starter. It was immediately scorned by several of Trump's fellow Republicans, who questioned why the United States would work with Russia after Moscow's alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

"It's not the dumbest idea I have ever heard but it's pretty close," Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told NBC's "Meet the Press" program.

Ash Carter, who was U.S. defense secretary until the end of former Democratic President Barack Obama's administration in January, told CNN flatly: "This is like the guy who robbed your house proposing a working group on burglary."

Continues...

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN19U0OW/

Not a moron, but a traitor.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
29. Jared did not qualify for a top level security clearance so Trump ordered that it be given to Jared.
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 03:45 PM
Jun 2024

Jared felt that a security clearance was a license to sell our country's secrets.

BComplex

(9,959 posts)
34. I agree. He's still getting money from the russians and saudis, and who knows who else,
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 04:21 PM
Jun 2024

for the intel he passes along. I only wish that some reporter in the media would do some actual investigative journalism on the matter.

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,024 posts)
35. Speaker Johnson faces blowback after following Trump's directive
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 07:58 PM
Jun 2024

Donald Trump demanded that unqualified loyalists to have access to many of the nation’s most sensitive secrets. House Speaker Mike Johnson acquiesced.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/speaker-johnson-faces-blowback-trumps-directive-rcna156068

Members of the House Intelligence Committee made it painfully clear to House Speaker Mike Johnson that he needed to choose responsibly when filling two vacancies on the panel. The Intelligence Committee has made a deliberate effort to steer clear of partisan food fights lately, and it feared that Johnson would screw this up by imposing rabid ideologues on the panel.....

This week, Johnson nevertheless named Perry and Jackson to the House Intelligence Committee.

Democrats were not pleased. Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia, for example, called the appointments “a disgrace and a threat to national security.”

But they weren’t alone. The New York Times reported that the House speaker didn’t even bother to give a heads-up to Rep. Mike Turner, the House Intelligence Committee’s Republican chairman, and PunchBowl News reported that Johnson’s move “is causing angst across the Capitol,” adding, “Several members of the committee — Republicans and Democrats — say they worry about the integrity of the panel in the wake of Johnson’s appointment of the pair.”.....

So, why in the world did the House speaker choose two unqualified extremists for the House Intelligence Committee, even after the panel’s members urged him not to? PunchBowl News’ report added this gem:

Johnson told fellow Republican lawmakers and aides that he made the appointments at the behest of Trump, who wanted Jackson and Perry on the panel.


Oh. So, Donald Trump wanted unqualified loyalists to have access to many of the nation’s most sensitive and highly classified secrets, and the House speaker followed the felon’s directive, as if he were an employee of the failed former president instead of Congress’ most powerful member......

And finally, there are broader consequences to keep in mind. The Times’ report added, “The panel has historically operated in a bipartisan manner, and is largely composed of serious-minded lawmakers rather than strident partisans. The break with tradition prompted fears that the intelligence community might pull back on the sensitive national security information it shares with Congress.”

It’s not surprising that Trump wouldn’t care, but Johnson has a responsibility to take such concerns seriously. This week, he failed spectacularly at a basic task.

Kick in to the DU tip jar?

This week we're running a special pop-up mini fund drive. From Monday through Friday we're going ad-free for all registered members, and we're asking you to kick in to the DU tip jar to support the site and keep us financially healthy.

As a bonus, making a contribution will allow you to leave kudos for another DU member, and at the end of the week we'll recognize the DUers who you think make this community great.

Tell me more...

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Just a tiny conspiracy th...