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OLDMDDEM

(3,186 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:39 AM Jun 2024

Apparently Trump and Greg Jarrett weren't paying attention.

Gregg Jarrett: 'The most egregious violations in the New York conviction of former President Donald Trump were federal Constitutional 'due process' violations that states are bound to follow. New York did not… Under the Sixth Amendment, all defendants have a right to be informed of the precise ‘nature and causes of the accusations’ against them so that they can properly defend themselves at trial. This did not happen.'

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/arraignment-donald-j-trump-detailed-summary

Judge Juan Merchan of the Supreme Court of New York opens the hearing by asking both the government and counsel for former President Donald J. Trump whether there’s anything they need “to address before we conduct the arraignment.”

Christopher Conroy for the prosecution and Todd Blanche for the defense agree that there is nothing.

“Let’s arraign Mr. Trump,” says the judge.

And the court proceeds to arraign the 45th president of the United States—the first president ever to face criminal charges:

THE CLERK: Donald J. Trump, the grand jury of New York County has filed indictment 71543 of 2023 charging you with the crimes of 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. How do you plead to this indictment, guilty or not guilty?

MR. TRUMP: Not guilty.

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bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
1. With Trump and his surrogates/lawyers, it's all a con to get you to believe THEIR version of reality
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:47 AM
Jun 2024

They won't acknowledge they were treated fairly and like everyone else. It doesn't serve their con job interests to bilk us all.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
3. They're talking about the underlying crimes that boosts misdemeanor business record falsifiction to a felony
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 11:59 AM
Jun 2024

From what I understand, it's not a strong basis for appeal.

gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
4. It's why I posted 2 years ago that DOJ should have prosecuted "individual one."
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 12:30 PM
Jun 2024

instead of the state. But hey, Garland didn't want to come off the bench for whatever reason so Bragg ran with the ball. If TSF wins on appeal because of the differences needed to move a misdemeanor to a felony, IMO, that's on Garland.

I agree it shouldn't be a reason to overturn the conviction but there was no good reason to overturn Roe either.

lastlib

(28,264 posts)
5. And the "underlying crimes" are not what he was charged with.
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 02:43 PM
Jun 2024

He was charged with "falsifying business records" with felonious intent to conceal the underlying crime. At arraignment, and at trial, he was explicitly asked if he understood the charges against him. He answered "yes."

You're right, it's not a basis for appeal, unless the appellate judges are drunk on tRump-Aid.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
6. How IGNORANT of Court proceedings does one have to be?
Fri Jun 7, 2024, 02:52 PM
Jun 2024

That before any trial commences, the Judge reads the charges against the Defendant and asks if the defendant understands them and then asks the defendant "How do you plead?"

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