Curious-- how many of you would vote for a Democratic candidate if they were convicted of a felony during their

[LymphocyteLover]

election year and refused to drop out of the race?

I mean-- why is this even a question? WTF is wrong with Republicans?

Also-- where is the media on this????????????? Has any media organization told Trump to drop out?

[1WorldHope]

1. Very good question. If trump was the other candidate. Yes.

[LymphocyteLover]

17. Hmmm... hadn't thought of that. I guess it depends on how strong the Dem is otherwise

[KarenS]

2. Depends on who the other candidate is.

soooo If someone has 'the goods' on President Biden, too bad, I'll vote for him anyway.

[Tree Lady]

61. If they had a good guy like Joe

a honest republican, there were a few in the past, I might not vote. It would be hard if he or she was going to follow republican issues. That is what we are facing.

[claudette]

3. Not me

[Zeitghost]

4. Every single time

If the opponent is a Republican.

[sarisataka]

5. Honestly?

Depends on the felony and who they are running against. Violent felonies would disqualify regardless.

[JustAnotherGen]

6. America comes first

So in this point of our History - with a culturally disaffected group of white Nationalists hiding in rat holes -

I would. I do not trust a single member of the Republican Party. They are devious, insidious, and capable of destruction of our Democracy.

[Demobrat]

7. They have nothing else.

That became apparent during the primaries.

Trump followers are not Republicans, they are cult members. If Trump were to drop out, they would not turn around and vote for a replacement Republican. They would stay home.

Unless he told them to vote for the replacement, but of course he would not. He would rather blow up the party.

They have no choice.

[FakeNoose]

48. Because they are brainwashed, that's why they have nothing else

They've been told they have nothing else, they've been told nobody else is qualified. Nobody but Chump can win. It's garbage but too many of them believe it. What a sad, pathetic excuse they are for a political party.

Whose fault is it that they have nobody else?

[wryter2000]

8. Depends on the felony

Simple possession of a drug might not be a problem. Civil disobedience could be a good thing. And it depends on the opponent as well.

[Emile]

9. I don't think the party would allow the person to run.

[unblock]

10. TBH, if Donnie weaponizes the DOJ and they start railroading our candidates, yeah.

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I'll use my judgment if it's legit or not.

But the bias is astounding. The media went ballistic over bill Clinton "wagging his finger" about not having sex with Monica. When it became apparent the he was "parsing", they talked endlessly about how horrible it was for him to lie and deceive journalists and the public. Nothing illegal, but they treated it as a generational scandal.

And now they ho-hum Donnie's felony convictions. Even if the verdict is overturned, he still cheated on his wife to basically date rape a porn star, pay $420k to cover it up, and lie about it.

But we're not supposed to think that -- even ignoring the felonies - isn't itself a massive scandal?

[LymphocyteLover]

18. Yes! Totally agree

[RobinA]

11. Depends

on the felony, what the circumstances were, the opponent, and the political conditions in the country. If Joe Biden were convicted of a felony tomorrow? Yep, I'd vote for him. The "convicted" part doesn't carry a lot of weight with me. What I would NOT vote for is any person who got up on a stage in front of cameras and mocked a handicapped person. For starters.

[TSExile]

12. Personally speaking...

...as someone who has endured sexual assault, I will NEVER support a candidate who is shown to be an abuser or party who keeps the candidate who is. It doesn't matter if it's D, R, I. It's a deal breaker for me.

Add to that being convincted of 34 felony counts, stealing classified documents, disrespecting our veterans and everything else? No.

[NoRethugFriends]

13. I would if they were going to vote correctly on important things and their opponent wouldn't.

[Ms. Toad]

14. It depends.

If the other candidate is Trump (or someone equivalent), I'd vote for the Democrat - unless the felony is related to ovethrowing the governmen, honesty or bigotry. In that case, I would probably end up doing my best to get the best third party candidate elected.

If a Democratic candidate was convicted of a felony related to overthrowing the government, and the Republican was Liz Cheney (or someone similar) - I'd probably vote for Liz Cheney.

[LymphocyteLover]

19. yeah, it's a tough call though I would probably not vote rather than vote for someone like Liz Cheney

[ProfessorGAC]

53. I Think That's The Best Answer

What's the crime, and who is the opponent?
Those 2 things apply a lot of leverage to the answer.

[TheRealNorth]

15. I suspect most people here would have voted for Bill Clinton in 2000....

(Had that been an option) even though he was guilty of perjury (even though the thing he lied about was a nothingburger).

[LymphocyteLover]

20. Interesting... never thought about that. Thankfully we didn't have to make a choice.

[Bayard]

16. Dems are more likely to eat their own

Witness Al Franken.

[LymphocyteLover]

21. yes-- for better or for worse

[LiberalFighter]

42. It wasn't the voters that did it.

Gillibrand and Schumer forced him out without allowing him to defend himself.

[FakeNoose]

50. Chuck Schumer never wanted Al Franken in the Senate to begin with

If you've read Al Franken's book "Giant of the Senate" which was written before he resigned, he mentions several instances where Schumer discouraged him from running for the Senate. When Franken had to go through a lengthy recount process in Minnesota there was -zero- support coming from the Senate Democrats, and at the time they were led by Schumer. Even after Franken won the recount and he was duly sworn in, Schumer made every effort to exclude him from the political process.

I can only assume that Kirsten Gillibrand acted on behalf of Schumer when she ultimately led the effort to force him to resign when the controversial photos came out. They refused to support him.

[LiberalFighter]

60. They trying to hang themselves.

[LymphocyteLover]

22. I will say it speaks to something about a former president's power and influence that they can be convicted

in a court of law on 34 felonies. And clearly it doesn't speak well for Dump. And of course he mounted a TERRIBLE defense. I would like to think a Dem would be able to mount a better defense.

[brush]

29. A Democrat, once a candidate, could mount a better defense but the party apparatus would see to it..

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that he/she would not be allowed to continue to campaign for whatever office as a Democrat.

[LymphocyteLover]

41. I would think so

[MineralMan]

23. I have voted in every election since 1966.

I have always voted for Democrats for all offices.

In all of those years, I have never been confronted with a candidate like you describe.

Isn't that interesting?

[LymphocyteLover]

25. Indeed!

[EllieBC]

24. I'd like to think this would never be an issue.

I’d like to think our party would not allow that to happen.

I never want to to have to make this choice but if I did it would depend on a lot of factors. Against Trump? Absolutely. SCOTUS vacancies on the horizon? Yes.

[doc03]

26. No. nt

[brush]

27. A Dem candidate going to trial during a campagin would be roundly rejected by the party apparatus.

Soundly.

[Bobstandard]

28. In 2028 we ma have to

If Trump is elected and uses the DOJ to persecute and prosecute his enemies, we may find that many of our best serving and running Democrats are newly minted felons.

[wnylib]

31. Non issue in 2028 if Trump takes the WH this year

because there won't be future elections.

[Bobstandard]

45. With respect, that's wrong

Even in Russia and North Korea there are elections. Despite those election results being predetermined, those governments point to the elections with pride and use them to declare the results legitimate. We’ll see the same thing here.

[wnylib]

47. True. But those "elections" are so controlled and predetermined

that they aren't real elections. And that's what we'd get with Trump - a lot of displays of adoration for the winner before the elections are even held. Then more adoring celebrations afterward. Pomp and circumstance without substance.

[elocs]

30. Oh, Democrats would refuse to vote for a Democratic candidate for a whole lot less than being convicted of a felony.

There are Democrats who are too noble and self righteous to bring themselves to vote for a candidate who for them is a self perceived lesser of 2 evils. I guarantee there will be Democrats who will do this in November because they don't agree with Biden's stance on Gaza, providing weapons to Israel or some other single issue.

In over 50 years of voting I have made this simple for myself. I always vote for the Democratic candidate. Always. Because that person is always better than the Republican candidate. Always. But there will be single issue Democrats who will refuse to vote for Biden and they are, in a word, stupid.

[Model35mech]

32. I think I would likely have voted for the JAILED Eugene Debs.

What a different country we would be in if he had won.

[Vinca]

33. If the other candidate was named Trump, I'd probably vote for the felon Dem.

[Lunabell]

34. Depends on the felony.

Marijuana possession? They'd still get my vote.

Concealing falsified business records for hush payments to an affair with a sex worker? No effing way I'd vote for that turd!!!

[NNadir]

35. It might have come up for me this year. My Democratic Senator is on trial.

I live in New Jersey.

Happily my State Democratic Party declined to run him, although the Senator in question, Robert Menendez, is trying to run as an independent, a spoiler. (Andy Kim is the Democratic nominee for our Senator.)

I have always held my nose to vote for Menendez in the past. If he were my only choice vs a fascist Republican, I would vote for him.

[RainCaster]

36. I would put my limit at 33 felonies

Throw in a few rapes, several national security charges, a lifetime of raping little girls with Jeffrey Epstein, cheating on all 4 wives, chumming up with Russian fascist. Yeah, I guess I'm a real amoral piece of shit if my standards are that low.

[femmedem]

37. If the balance of power in the House or Senate depended on it, I probably would

regardless of the felony. Otherwise, it would depend on the candidates and the felony.

[WarGamer]

38. vs Trump... I'd vote for ANY Democrat.

[Cosmocat]

39. No way, none

A convicted felon would win a nomination for any federal or state office as a D.

[jimfields33]

40. A Washington DC mayor won with a felony and jail time.

Only one I believe.

[Mountainguy]

43. We wouldn't have nominated anyone

with multiple indictments.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

44. Who, are what, is the media that you believe should be telling Trump what to do?

The answer to "Why is this even a question?" has become clear, I think, now that you have presented this question.

But on your question about where the media is on this, I might have an answer for you if you give me your top 5 answers for who or what you consider to be the media.

[MistakenLamb]

46. i would not vote for the top of the ticket

their refusal to step down for the sake of the country and party would really do it for me, id vote for Democrats on the rest of the ticket and write in my governor for President

[brooklynite]

49. "Vote for the crook. It's Important"

Gov Edwin Edwards (LA):1991.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/in-a-viral-bumper-sticker-this-man-summed-up-louisianas-1991-race-for-governor/article_0ad5437a-ec7a-11ea-9fd3-cfe990205a02.html

[pandr32]

51. A felony conviction means someone would not pass background check.

There is no way that person should hold office.

[gay texan]

52. I wouldnt

The party would have already washed their hands of them.

[Ping Tung]

54. All hypotheses are subjective and relative.. Therefore, the answer must be, "

"I don't know." Or, "I don't know enough. "

It all depends on circumstances and details.

Hypothetical situation:

A young man, when 18, participates in a holdup at a liquor store and serves as the "driver'. His two friends threaten the cashier with an unloaded gun and are given the cash. Just as they are getting in the car, a cop car pulls up. They are arrested and go to trial where all are convicted of armed robbery. The "driver" gets 6 months in prison. Years later he running for senator in his state after 20 years being a college professor. His opponent is a MAGA Republican who made a lot of money in the arms-industry but he managed to do it legally.

Who would I vote for?

Hints: I hate arms dealers. I loathe MAGAs. I admire teachers.

[hadEnuf]

55. The Republlican party has a long history of fabricating or exacerbating charges against Democrats.

They also have their sympathizers and operatives in critical positions such as judges and prosecutors.

Given their current and past record on this, it is pretty easy to identify whether a prosecution leading to a felony conviction is BS. But 34 felony convictions are not BS.

If a Democrat were to be convicted of what Felon Trump was just convicted of in a fair and unanimous decision I would not vote for them. Who actually would?

But charges levied by Republicans? Look at their track record.

[happybird]

56. Depends on the felony

And also when it occurred, and if have they changed the behaviors/lifestyle which led to the charges.

Anything involving sexual assault, child or animal abuse, or election fraud is an automatic and permanent No from me.

Otherwise, lots of people have done dumb, illegal stuff when they are young, especially if they have struggled with addiction. That doesn't make them a bad or corrupt person. What matters is if they have properly handled their issues and moved on to a new way of living.

Tfg is a bad and corrupt person, whether or not he has felony convictions.

Edit: Just saw the other part
"During their election year."
That's a No from me. Too recent for real and lasting change to have occurred within their life. We wouldn't nominate someone in that position, anyway.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

57. vs Trump? I'd vote for the Dem, no matter what.

vs any of Trump's primary opponents? I'd still vote for the Dem.

[MaryMagdaline]

58. I would vote for a convicted felon over a fascist.

[DemocraticPatriot]

59. It depends.... How many felonies was the Republican convicted of?

[ecstatic]

62. I'm positive that s/he would be replaced. We aren't going to place any one individual over our chances of winning

when so much is at stake. Some of us could literally be killed under trump's revenge regime.

The moment any Democratic candidate is anywhere close to being unelectable, they will be tossed under the bus. At least by me.

Sorry not sorry?