Stinks of corporate fuckery...

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[OldBaldy1701E]

1. It is a 'larger' bar...

For the multi-bar package. Singles are bigger.

Not sure about this, but I have seen it in other products that offer both single and multi-packaged options.

And, yes, it is corporate fuckery of the highest magnitude. Not just the playing with details to get what they want, but the complete lack of even trying to be discreet about it says they don't care if you like it or not.

[VMA131Marine]

2. It could be physically larger ...

But have lower density and therefore weigh the same. Wait until they figure out how to make hollow bars of soap …

[keithbvadu2]

4. Toilet paper with larger cardboard rolls in the center. Diameter still the same.

[wolfie001]

19. Pretty sure the Kock Brothers fucked up that industry

They bought all the tree farms and manufacturing if I remember correctly. Paper towel prices doubled in like one year. About 20 years ago. I've been buying store brand or Nature's Promise ever since. I refuse to spend $24.99 for 4 fucking paper towel rolls. Excuse my french.

[markodochartaigh]

9. While larger is not the same as heavier,

when the only physical parameter given is weight, and that parameter is directly below the claim that the bars are now "larger", I'm of the opinion that this is false advertising.

[dalton99a]

16. They make them for some hotels

[wolfie001]

21. I remember when a can of coffee was 16 oz. Also, Ice Cream......

.....used to be in half gallon containers (64 oz). Before hedge funds and private equity. We were skinnier too because there was no high fructose corn syrup.

[NanaCat]

30. We were skinnier because we ingested less sugar in general

Sugar is in foods where you would never expect to see it these days, where it doesn't even belong, really. That is contributing to the surge in morbid obesity and diabetes. And it's no better for you than HCFS. Both do the same thing to your liver: Generate fat cells.

Really.

And sweets alone are not the problem. People are consuming far more fizzy drinks and junk food snacks than they did in the 60s and even the 70s. I was a 70s teen, and remember how most parents, even the well-to-do ones like mine, bought those things only for a special occasion, like a family gathering or a party. We never had it with meals, and never had it between meals, either, unless my brothers and I used money we scrounged up to buy one when we were away from the parents. Families across socioeconomic lines ate real food for the majority of their meals. Even poor families ate better than too many people do these days. Before my mum and her brothers could help them out, my grandparents were quite poor, and yet they didn't eat junk food or fast food at all--it was three squares of meat and veg and fruit, not processed rubbish. That surely helped keep the weight down.

Plus, we were simply more active back then. Most parents in the 70s restricted telly viewing to a few hours a day--if that, and the Saturday morning cartoons for the younger sprogs. Unless one was an avid reader (guilty here), that meant sticking around the house was a bore. My brothers were constantly outside, riding bikes, climbing trees, enjoying 'sandlot' type sports with their friends, and so on. I did someo of it, too, if I got bored enough.

Plus, we used our own feet to get around more often in general, either by walking, biking or skating. We didn't use our cars for idiotic things like going to the grocer a few blocks over for some milk when we had perfectly capable feet to take us there. The last thing my parents wanted to do after long commutes to and from work was spend time in a bloody car. So they sent one of us to get the milk, LOL.

I don't think most people realise how very much life has changed from the 70s when people were routinely active and ate better, to one where they were far more sedentary and ate too much crap.

[wolfie001]

33. Also, Dr. Lustig gave that amazing lecture somewhere in Cali about HFCS (2015 or so)

He talked about how it's foreign to the body and your internal organs can't tell your stomach when you've had enough. With real sugar, you start to feel sick to your stomach when you overindulged. When I was 13 or so, I remember never being able to drink a second can of Coke. Your body would be like "blech". With HFCS, all of the sudden people were getting humongous, big fountain drinks at 7 Eleven. Overnight it seemed. Big Gulps (32 oz drinks). Your body still telling you, "I'm not full". Really diabolical, toxic stuff. Cheers

[Hugin]

34. I really really need to look up this lecture...

I guess the HFCS police are no longer trolling DU.

Backstory: It was back in the ‘aughts, I casually mentioned that for some stupid reason HFCS was being added to, yes, corn syrup. It’s presence made most retail corn syrup useless for cooking hard candy and brittles.

I was instantly clobbered by the HFCS lobby. Sealioned mercilessly, tarred & feathered, and ridden out of GD on a rail. Prior to which I had single handedly fought a valiant battle of posting reams of peer reviewed articles and studies stating pretty much the same conclusions about HFCS as you’ve pointed out. HFCS is not food.

I believe that as I was ox carted away, I was screaming in all caps that HFCS has as much to do with corn as latex paint has to do with rubber trees.

Anyway, the event changed me and I no longer approach any online forum with nearly the level of naiveties that I once had.

I wonder what happened to them? I suppose they moved on to be global warming denial or maybe anti-vaxxers.

[wolfie001]

36. Howdy

He had two very famous lectures. One was in 2010 called The Bitter Truth. The one I saw was from 2014:

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This lecture gob-smacked me. I wish I'd seen something like this 40 years ago. I'm always telling my kids to watch their sugar intake plus carbs. I saw it in 2015 and I pretty much cut back on a lot of junk eating in general. Cheers

[Hugin]

37. I didn't get the memo on TOFI (Thin Outside, Fat Inside) until recently...

Fortunately, genetics had my back on that one. I have aggressively cut my starch and carb levels dramatically since then. Way more than half and had a moment there when I learned that I had already only been eating a fraction of the carbs of the average American. It was terrifying.

Thanks for the video, this is going to take some time to plow through!

[wolfie001]

38. Yeppers! Information and science are so crucial

[JoseBalow]

24. Two joints in a lid

I roll big joints, man

[pansypoo53219]

6. rectangles became ovals.

[forgotmylogin]

18. I hate when the soap bar is "contoured"

basically skinnier in the middle to "conform to body curves" which basically means it will break in half before I've used it all.

[fierywoman]

7. Ice cream pints now 14 or 15 oz ...

[erronis]

10. And venture capitalists and profiteers and anti any social benefits.

[Magoo48]

11. Greed is a psychological, social disease spread by rampant vulture-capitalism.

[wolfie001]

22. Kim Kardashian pushing her untalented child into the star role of Lion King

Sorry, but your comment made me think of that and the whole mess she started. Of course she posed with donald dump in the Oval Office.

[JoseBalow]

13. "Fun Size"

[TSExile]

15. Yeah, right.

"I'm not sure exactly coined the term 'fun-sized', but I'm sure it wasn't a woman." - Jay Leno

[wolfie001]

23. Six or seven tiny butter fingers bars

[NanaCat]

31. Those have been around since at least the 60s with sweets

They were great for families with kids. You could let them have a small treat, rather than putting them at risk for a diabetic coma with a full size candy bar of bag o' cavity rot.

Speaking of.. Candy bars now are bigger than they were in the 70s. I'm not talking about the king-size bars, but the regular ones. I think they maxed out in the 80s, though.

[WinstonSmith4740]

14. From my namesake...

It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday […] it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours?

[keithbvadu2]

20. Apple's Trick for Using "As Little Gold As Possible" in Its New, $17,000 Gold Watch

Apple’s Trick for Using “As Little Gold As Possible” in Its New, $17,000 Gold Watch

https://slate.com/business/2015/03/apple-watch-edition-the-company-found-a-trick-to-use-as-little-gold-as-possible-in-its-new-gold-watch.html

[CincyDem]

28. Both can be true.

One is a weight measure (less) and the other is a volume measure bigger size).

Not saying it’s right but playing with the density allow both to be true.

[bucolic_frolic]

29. Frothed with vibrational air like donuts, ice cream. Sell the sizzle, not the steak. /nt

[Captain Zero]

32. Dunkin' Donuts are so full of air it is a scam

There's nothing to them.

[Oneironaut]

35. Greed is absolutely ruining this country.

Companies are making record profits, AND, shrinking products, raising prices, laying Americans off, out-sourcing, begging the government for corporate welfare.

Because, there can never be “too much.” 10 houses later, 50 cars later, 5 luxury yachts later, they need to suck out more of our souls. Fucking scum.