Palestinian journalist held Israeli hostages in his home

[lapucelle]

Palestinian journalist held Israeli hostages in home

Hostages Almog Meir Jan, Andrey Kozlov, and Shlomi Ziv were rescued from the home of Abdallah Aljamal on Saturday

A Palestinian journalist and his family held three Israeli hostages captive in their home in the Gaza Strip until their rescue on Saturday morning, the Israeli Defense Forces said on Sunday.

“Following the completion of IDF and ISA examinations of reports on the subject, it can be confirmed that Abdallah Aljamal was an operative in the Hamas terrorist organization, who held the hostages Almog Meir Jan, Andrey Kozlov, and Shlomi Ziv captive in his family home in Nuseirat,” the IDF said in a statement.

“The hostages were held captive by Abdallah Aljamal and members of his family in their home,” the statement continued, calling the discovery “further evidence of the deliberate use of civilian homes and buildings by the Hamas terrorist organization to hold Israeli hostages captive in the Gaza Strip.”

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Aljamal was a contributor to The Palestine Chronicle, and published frequently on the site. On June 3, he published an article with the headline “My House Will Always Be Open – Stories from the Gaza Siege.”

https://jewishinsider.com/2024/06/israel-gaza-hostage-rescue-abdallah-aljamal/

[Bad Thoughts]

1. Did he forget to interview Noa?

Such a lost opportunity.

[lapucelle]

2. Al Jazeera denies rumor that hostage was held at employee's home

Al Jazeera denies rumor that hostage was held at employee’s home

Qatari news network Al Jazeera is stridently denying any link to Gaza-based journalist Abdallah Aljamal, amid unverified rumors that hostage Noa Argamani had been held at his home in central Gaza’s Nuseirat.

According to various rumors, some of which have been picked up by Hebrew-language media with varying levels of credulity, Argamani was held at the home of Dr. Ahmed Aljamal and his son Abdallah. They also claim that Abdallah is an employee of Al-Jazeera.

The reports base the claim on Rami Abdu, head of the Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, who tweeted that soldiers climbed into the Aljamals’ home during the raid and killed several members of the family, including Ahmed and Abdallah. He notes that Abdallah is spokesman for the Hamas-run labor ministry in Gaza and has contributed to several news outlets in the past.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/al-jazeera-denies-rumor-that-hostage-was-held-at-employees-home/

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In 2019, Aljamal published an article tagged as an opinion piece on Al Jazeera’s website. Al Jazeera attempted to distance itself from Aljamal on Sunday, saying, “This man is not from Al-Jazeera, and he did not work for Al-Jazeera at all, and he is not listed as working for Al-Jazeera neither now nor in the past. We do not know him, and all the rumors that have been spread are empty of content and not true at all.”

https://jewishinsider.com/2024/06/israel-gaza-hostage-rescue-abdallah-aljamal/

[Bad Thoughts]

28. The identity was revealed by EuroMed Human Rights Monitor

They are anti-Israeli.

[RandySF]

52. I'm shocked!

[The Mouth]

121. Kind of along the lines of hostages being held at a "refugee camp"

Yeah, right.

As long as there is one member of, or supporter of Hamas alive it's too many.

[SunSeeker]

139. Al Jazeera: He was just a coffee boy!

[manicdem]

171. Very odd

Al Jazeera says that's not true. The. That he's not employed by them.

If he's not employed by them, how does Al Jazeera know the hostages weren't there?

[Think. Again.]

3. I'm confused...

Why is the IDF saying it was

“further evidence of the deliberate use of civilian homes and buildings by the Hamas terrorist organization to hold Israeli hostages captive in the Gaza Strip.”

If the home they are referring to was a hamas operative's home?

[lapucelle]

5. Oh, you're confused? Here let me help!

The rescued hostages were being held in apartment buildings.

Hamas embedded operatives and held hostages among civilians in apartment buildings. It's nothing new for them.

https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

[Think. Again.]

7. But my question is...

Why is the IDF saying it was

“further evidence of the deliberate use of civilian homes and buildings by the Hamas terrorist organization to hold Israeli hostages captive in the Gaza Strip.”

If the home they are referring to was a hamas operative's home?

[lapucelle]

9. That question was asked and answered.

If you have further questions, sea below.

[Think. Again.]

13. Thanks for trying, maybe someone can answer my question.

[Happy Hoosier]

19. What's confusing?

They were being held in a civilian dwelling. Hamas embeds itself in the civilian population deliberately. This is more evidence of that. Seems crystal clear?

[Think. Again.]

26. But IDF said they were being held in a hamas operative's dwelling.

[Beartracks]

71. The operative was a civilian.

[Think. Again.]

73. No, a civilian is not hamas, and hamas are not civilians, by definition.

[Beartracks]

80. Sorry - whose definition?

The concept of civilian military personnel should not be unfamiliar. And neither would be the concept of collaborator, informant, or PR surrogate, all of which would be considered operatives in that they operate on behalf of the formal organized group.

You'd have to explain how a Venn diagram of civilians and Hamas could not possibly have any overlap.

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[Think. Again.]

85. hamas is a terrorist organization...

...a person is either a terrorist or a civilian.

I know netanyahu wants us to think of the dead civilians as terrorists, but they were civilians, not terrorists.

[jmbar2]

101. Both can be true at the same time

Civilian and terrorist

[ProfessorGAC]

118. Civilian Is Not The Antonym Of Terrorist

The distinction you're insisting upon is not necessarily true.

[Think. Again.]

128. So there IS credence to the claim that...

...netanyahu considers all Gaza civilians as hamas.

It's hard to imagine how anyone could get away with that, let alone convince so many others to put their humanity aside so carelessly.

[ProfessorGAC]

140. I Said No Such Thing

You have lost the debate when you have to ascribe things not said to the other side.
Do better.

[Beastly Boy]

144. Would you consider a bank robber who holds hostages a civilian or a terrorist?

The distinction is without a difference as far as criminality is concerned, whatever illogical pretzels one may employ to twist the situation into a predetermined narrative.

[Think. Again.]

146. That's silly, this hastage holder was holding a terrorist group's hostage...

....making him part of that terrorist group, which makes him a terrorist.

By pretending this terrorist was just an innocent civilian, netanyau is trying to justify his killing of innocent civilians.

Some of us don't think killing innocent civilians is justifiable.

[Beastly Boy]

148. Silly indeed.

You've had plenty of responses addressing this silliness. I have nothing more to add to them.

[The Mouth]

174. If they are holding hostages, they need to die.

And that includes anyone who knew that they were holding hostages.

Good riddance.

One Hamas supporter alive is too many.

[wnylib]

135. Try this to illuminate the darkness of your confusuion.

In the US, there were people living as civilian immigrants, holding down jobs, taking classes as students, going shopping, taking trips within the country like everyone else.

Then one day they got on planes like everyone else, but it soon became evident that they were not just civilians after all. They were Al Qaeda operatives who hijacked the planes to carry out terrorist attacks.

See? An operative can appear to be just a civilian like anyone else - until it becomes obvious what they are.

[Think. Again.]

149. Did we call them civilians or terrorists after the attack?

Because the IDF said that the hostage, who was being held in a terrorist's home, was proof that hostages are being held in civilian homes.

[yagotme]

150. Do you think that for the entire time the hostage was there,

the reporter stayed at home and guarded the hostage? I bet he didn't. Which means his wife and kids had to guard him. Therefore, the reporter's whole family is now connected to the terrorist network. Women and children. Think that one out.

[Think. Again.]

153. What's to think out?

Are you suggesting women are somehow biologically immune to being terrorists?

As far as the children go, They, Are, Children.

[yagotme]

154. Hamas recruits children.

Can children be terrorists?

[Think. Again.]

156. Are you suggesting that...

...chldren are responsible for acts they are told to commit by adults?

[yagotme]

158. Are you suggesting they have no responsibility whatever? nt

[Think. Again.]

159. I guess I am...

Isn't that why we have legal (and moral) definitions of Children vs. Adults?

[yagotme]

161. But, if you recall, there are times when "children" are tried as adults.

Usually, when a particularly serious crime has been committed. If you were one of these IDF soldiers in Gaza, attacking a known Hamas area, and a 12 year old child came running at you, shooting an AK in your direction, would you shoot them? They ARE trying to kill you.

ETA: Your post:

157. If you participate in terrorism, you are a terrorist.

[Think. Again.]

162. The children in the terrorist's hostage home did THAT?

I didn't know that.

[yagotme]

163. Now you're really being obtuse.

I was giving a possible scenario, with you as a participant. C'mon, man...

[Think. Again.]

164. We don't need diversionary scenarios, let's stick with reality...

...rightwing netanyahu is trying to blur the lines between the innocent civilians he is killing and the terrorists.

Apparently, some people are eating up his bullshit.

[yagotme]

165. He's not the only one blurring the lines between terrorists and civilians...

And, my scenario most likely IS a reality for the IDF. Just asking you to put yourself in their place, to make that hard decision.

[betsuni]

160. Exactly. Who's doing the cooking, cleaning, washing clothes, and general care of the hostages? Women

of the family. The guy goes to the terrorist office tunnel or whatever to do the terrorist job.

[LeftInTX]

166. Hostages had armed guards

Also, they talk about apartments, but extended families often own entire buildings. They often live in extended family clans.

[yagotme]

167. Hamas recruits young children. A 10 year old can hold a gun. nt

[yardwork]

130. lol.

[wnylib]

136. Bullshit. Civilians act as operatives in many situations

around the world and throughout time. They get recruited, or they volunteer their services. They have "day jobs" as civilian teachers, doctors, journalists, or laborers. Their civilian positions make them useful secret operatives, until they get exposed.

So you really don't know that? Or just want to play semantic games?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

151. I think we know the answer...

[Think. Again.]

157. If you participate in terrorism, you are a terrorist.

[Happy Hoosier]

90. So what?

The fact that it was a Hamas operative‘s apartment doesn‘t mean it‘s not a civilian apartment.

[wnylib]

134. A dwelling is a home, right? Homes exist among other homes.

The people in the other homes are civilians. So, the Hamas ooeratives kept hostages in a civilian environment, in a home among the homes of civilians.

It is also evidence that people who live and work among the people and appear to be civilians themselves are actually cooperating with Hamas as operatives.

Not hard to understand unless you don't want to understand.

[Dorian Gray]

141. The dwelling was in a civilian apartment building

surrounded by civilian apartments in close quarters.

[lapucelle]

21. Or maybe you could try reading the answer again.

Sometimes people need to read things several times before they understand. And then there are those poor folks who never understand, but that's OK too.

[Think. Again.]

27. Very true, don't feel bad.

[Bad Thoughts]

43. IDF is suggesting the term "civilian" is deliberately misused

The captors were indeed Hamas, not civilians, and they operated in civilian areas in contravention of international law.

[Think. Again.]

47. But IDF said...

...finding a hostage in a hamas home is proof that hostages are in civilian homes.

[FBaggins]

59. No it didn't

They said civilian homes and buildings

The hostages were held in civilian buildings (a violation of the Geneva Conventions)… and in the home of a Hamas operative (holding hostages makes you a combatant)

[Think. Again.]

63. Yes, they said a hostage found in a hamas operative's home ...

...is proof hostages are held in civilian homes (and buildings).

[FBaggins]

95. And it is such proof

The hostages were held in Hamas operatives’ homes which were in civilian buildings.

Both of which (along with a supposed “journalist” being an operative) are violations of the international laws of war

[Dorian Gray]

142. Reading this thread

is like being in a very long and unfunny terrorist who's on first sketch.

[Bad Thoughts]

76. Read between the lines

The literal meaning of the statement is meant to contradict the reality.

[Igel]

16. It was a civilian apt.

No real or obvious military purpose.

It's probably where, if married, the man holding the Israelis as property to be traded for some payout would have housed his wife and kids. If not and he was there alone with the people taken hostage as trading tokens, it was surrounded by Palestinian human meat that was intended to be both camouflage and a shield. (Most of us prefer to use inanimate things as camo, and shields tends to be inanimate matter. But hey, colonialist Western values.)

An apt. in a civilian apt. building is "dual use" like an ambulance with Red Cross/Cresecent markings used by Hamas to move healthy fighters is "dual use" or using a UNWRA warehouse or school intended to warehouse food or teach 12-year-old refugees awaiting a return to the home they left in 1949 but which contains munitions is "dual use."

In a sense, the use by Hamas makes the apt. no longer civilian--but then you have the flip side of that argument, which is in the treaties governing how to conduct warfare legally: The presence of a military usage of a civilian facility makes the facility a military target, subject to proportionality (which is *not* well defined).

So in a very real sense you're absolutely right--it was a military building, and therefore a proper military target. We're basically upset because Hamas decided to let civilians seek housing in a military target, I guess.

I'd cede the "civilian" argument because then, at least, the IDF attacked a civilian target--not a Hamas military base.

[LeftInTX]

10. Sounds like a journalist was holding hostages in his home.

[Think. Again.]

11. The IDF said he was a hamas operative, but then claimed his home was a civilian home.

[LeftInTX]

15. According to Palestine Chronicle for whom he worked: Abdallah Aljamal is a Gaza-based journalist.

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/writers/abdallah-aljamal/


He also was the former spokesman for Hamas labor ministry. People can wear two hats! Heck, three hats, four hats etc.

Palestine Chronicle is US 501(c)3 non-profit organization.

[Think. Again.]

22. Right, so was it a hamas operative's home or a civilian's home?

[LeftInTX]

33. This goes round in circles.

Headlines by that logic

Former President Trump Found Guilty Is he a former president or a felon??

National Security Advisor Michael Flynn pleads guilty Is he a former National Security advisor or a foreign agent?

Army Major Nidal Hassan goes on terroristic shooting spree at Ft Hood Is he a terrorist or US Army Major???


Veteran blows up building: Is he a veteran or a terrorist?

Husband kills wife Was he a husband or a killer?

Son of Sam is a postal worker: How can he be a killer if he's a postal worker?

&ab_channel=AssociationofDotard

[Think. Again.]

37. Yes, I've noticed that about IDF's statements. It's like...

...they don't distinguish between civilians and hamas. Weird.

[lapucelle]

44. It's nothing like that at all.

Keep bumping.

[lapucelle]

51. Speaking about going around in circles, I have a cute image in my sig line.

[revmclaren]

124. Perfect.

[TheProle]

61. Both

[Think. Again.]

64. Are you saying IDF considers hamas operatives as civilians? or the other way around?

[TheProle]

75. I am saying when you are a Hamas operative

And you are holding a hostage in your home while your wife is living there as well, you don’t get to cry when your war crime gets your civilian wife killed.

[lapucelle]

23. Apparently the "home" where Palestinian journalist and his family held hostages

Last edited Sun Jun 9, 2024, 03:37 PM - Edit history (1)

being an apartment in an apartment building is too difficult a concept for some people to grasp.

[Think. Again.]

29. IDF said it was "a family home" too? I didn't see that part.

[lapucelle]

34. Why don't link to exactly what you said you heard.

[Think. Again.]

40. My first post, which poses the only question I am asking...

...was in direct response the OP. That's at the very top of this thread.

[lapucelle]

41. What are you talking about at this point?

[Think. Again.]

45. All of my posts have only asked one question...

...why does IDF say that finding a hostage in a hamas operative's home prove hamas hides hostages in civilian's homes?

[lapucelle]

48. Another bump.

[chowder66]

67. I'll give it a shot

The Palestinian reporter was living as a civilian among other civilians before it was discovered that he was a Hamas operative who held hostages in his home. An investigation followed which determined he was a Hamas operative. He was posing as a civilian.

[Think. Again.]

70. So hamas is not hiding hostages in civilian homes...

...they are hiding in the hamas homes.

Someone needs to tell IDF.

[Mossfern]

79. Maybe because the other family members in the home

were not Hamas.
If a US Marine lives with his wife and children, does that make his home a US military home?
Are the wife and children responsible for his actions if he is put on active duty? What about if he's not on active duty?
I'm a bit uninformed here, but do all career military in the US need to live on military bases?

[The Magistrate]

50. There Are None So Blind, Ma'am, As Those Who Will Not To See

I've always found it too damn much work to pretend to misunderstanding, even when the appearance of it might work to my benefit. A lot of people do seem willing to put in the work necessary, though, and apparently some even enjoy it....

[lapucelle]

54. Think how much fun they must be at parties...

[Hieronymus Phact]

86. it's sort of familiar to a user i blocked a while back

It's just another flavor of trolling. To be so obtuse and irritating that you might overstep the posting rules and they'll hop on that Alert button. All the while tying up potentially enlightening discussions. It may even be a 'bot.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

145. Sealioning, I believe n/t

[Hieronymus Phact]

173. Thanks for pointing that out.

I didn't know it had a name, and a wiki page describing it.

[Jedi Guy]

147. "It's just another flavor of trolling."

That's absolutely this person's MO. They stake out the most ludicrous position they possibly can and then pretend to be as obtuse as possible in an attempt to rile people up.

The sooner everyone ignores it, the sooner it will slink back under its bridge.

[Dorian Gray]

143. 100%

Intentional obtuseness worthy of an Abbott and Costello sketch.

[lapucelle]

38. It helps if you actually read the OP before you start asking questions.

[Think. Again.]

72. I actually quoted the OP in my question.

[lapucelle]

74. Bump.

[Cha]

68. Yes wouldn't want to

Think a Pal journalist would do something so shocking

[Happy Hoosier]

92. It is straight-up gaslighting. NT

[lapucelle]

97. Imagine pretending to be confused about what an apartment building is.

Maybe next time I should respond with this.

[NickB79]

17. He was living there with his wife, adult daughter, Grandpa, and grandkids

The entire family helped hold the hostages.

[Think. Again.]

24. Yes, so why did IDF ...

...refer to an hamas operative's home as a civilian's home?

[andym]

81. Differing definitions: the home hosted civilians as well as an undercover Hamas militant

The presence of actual civilians defines it as a civilian home, and hopefully no harm came to them. Unfortunately this ruthless militant had no qualms about putting his family in harm's way, which may be a recurring theme in this war. In a sense the militant not only held an Israeli hostage but his own family hostage.

Alternately, the presence of a Hamas militant holding a hostage allows it to be classified as a potential military target by various conventions.

So it can be described in both ways, and IMO it is both, which creates the ambiguity that confuses you. Another poster called it mixed use, which fits the situation.

The home is both a civilian home using a simple definition of any place occupied by civilians and a potential military target due to the presence of a militant and a hostage. The best way to describe it as a civilians' home used for military purposes-- which happens quite frequently in wars, often with the civilians having little say in the matter. The IDF used this definition, which conveys the meaning intended.

[Think. Again.]

88. THANK YOU!!!

Your response make good sense, thanks!

[JustAnotherGen]

123. Ask them

[Happy Hoosier]

91. Operatives still live in civilian dwellings.

Dude… turn off that gaslight.

[sarisataka]

20. His home was a unit in an apartment building

That is a civilian building. Said building in a refugee camp surrounded by civilians.

[Think. Again.]

25. But my question is...

Why is the IDF saying it was

“further evidence of the deliberate use of civilian homes and buildings by the Hamas terrorist organization to hold Israeli hostages captive in the Gaza Strip.”

If the home they are referring to was a hamas operative's home?

[sarisataka]

30. If i understand you correctly

A Hamas operative holding a hostage in an apartment building makes the apartment no longer a civilian building because it is his home. So then what is the question?

[Think. Again.]

31. I didn't mention the style of architecture...

I'm asking why the IDF says that a hostage held in a hamas operative's home is proof that hamas hides hostages in civilian homes.

[sarisataka]

35. I think i may be getting your gist

An apartment unit is a persons "home", i.e. their place of residence. You are saying if that unit is the "home" of a Hamas operative it is not a "civilian home". Arguable but in the interest of brevity I will not dispute that here.

Apartment buildings are called multi-unit dwelling in some places. Obviously they hold multiple families "homes"

Now we may have a Hamas operative who lives in unit 307 thus saying that unit is no longer "civilian". Unfortunately for the non-Hamas Palestinians in 306 and 308, unit 307 is still in the same building. It is likely the majority of the tenants are not Hamas but their homes are colocated with the Hamas member's home.

The Hamas member has therefore chosen to bring the conflict into a civilian building. There is no realistic way to do anything to the "Hamas" home that will not risk affecting the "civilian" homes of the building.

I hope this brings you some clarity.

[Think. Again.]

36. So wh did IDF say findin a hostage in a hamas home ...

...is proof that hamas hides hostages in civilian homes?

[sarisataka]

39. As i just explained

BECAUSE THEY FOUND HOSTAGES IN CIVILIAN HOMES

Evidence of an event is proof of the event.

[Think. Again.]

42. No, the IDF statement in the OP said it was a hamas operative's home.

[sarisataka]

46. This is tiring. You are being disingenuous at best,

Have a good day

[Think. Again.]

49. Just hoping for an answer.

[sarisataka]

56. My last reply...

You have been answered. Repeatedly and in detail.

Since the presence of even a single Hamas member removes civilian status (which is the point of your question) I do hope you will be consistent in the future. When the IDF strikes refugee camps, hospitals, schools, please point out that these were not civilian targets. The presence of Hamas members means they are Hamas refugee camps. Hamas hospital buildings. Hamas school buildings.

Can you be counted on to be as vehement in noting these were Hamas buildings and not civilian?

I leave the last word to you.

[Think. Again.]

60. Thanks!...

Does anyone understand why the IDF is claiming that a hostage found in a hamas operative's home is proof that hostages are held in civilian's homes?

[EllieBC]

57. Thanks for all the kicking I guess?

Anyway, the scumbag lowlife who is now dead was a journalist for a fine publication hosted in the always tolerant PNW. Shocking to none.

So he’s a journalist who is clearly fine with holding hostages for Hamas so I’d be inclined to say this is proof that many of the poor people in Gaza might be Hamas sympathizers.

[Think. Again.]

62. How does his being a hamas operative indicate others are hamas sympathizers?

But please don't answer that, I don't want to get off topic, I'm trying to fend off a lot of people trying to divert me by going around my question of why IDF is saying that a hostage found in a hamas home is proof hostages are in civilian homes.

Either no one seems to know, or no one wants to answer.

[EllieBC]

65. It's pretty clear and has been for a while

Unless someone is being intentionally obtuse, they civilians and Hamas are quite intertwined in that area.

[Think. Again.]

69. Yes, it's one of the many horrific things hamas does...

...but it's beginning to seem like IDF either doesn't know the difference between hamas and civilians, or doesn't care.

[Joinfortmill]

66. Wow, give it up.

[ClickClack]

83. "Just hoping for an answer." Right. Sure you are. Tell us another.

One might just as well argue with a looped audio recording of you asking the same question.

[Think. Again.]

87. I wouldn't be asking it over and over if I got an answer....

...and I think I finally did!

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19021148

[MotownPgh]

93. Hahaha purposely obtuse.

Why does everyone keep responding? This user is NOT asking a question in good faith. Notice a pattern?

[JustAnotherGen]

133. Consistently

[wnylib]

137. Why bother with explanations to obtuse questions that derail threads?

[betsuni]

98. Because the operative comes home to his civilian family in a civilian building where other civilians live in

a civilian neighborhood after a hard day's work at the terrorist office. The women of the family, civilians, are the ones cooking, cleaning, washing, taking care of the hostages. This is deliberate use of civilian homes and buildings by Hamas terrorist organizations to hold Israeli hostages in the Gaza Strip.

[JohnSJ]

4. To classify them as journalists is a disservice to real journalists. These are

at a minimum terrorist supporters and at a maximum terrorists themselves

[SunSeeker]

138. Exactly. He was a terrorist propagandist, not a journalist. nt

[Hellbound Hellhound]

6. Try him as a war criminal under the Geneva Convention, if he's alive.

If not, good riddance to terrorist trash.

[LeftInTX]

12. He was killed.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

14. Just another Hamas cultist. Glad for that. Thanks for the update. n/t

[LeftInTX]

8. I think the Palestine Chronicle is US based.

The Palestine Chronicle is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization whose mission is to educate the general public by providing a forum that strives to highlight issues of relevance to human rights, national struggles, freedom and democracy in the form of daily news, commentary, features, TV programs, podcasts, book reviews, photos, art .. in addition to media and other speaking engagements.

The Palestine Chronicle team consists of professional journalists and respected writers and authors who don’t speak on behalf of any political party or champion any specific political agenda.

The Palestine Chronicle website was established in September 1999 and has grown in its importance and scope of coverage mostly because of the support it received from socially conscious and progressive scholars, writers, activists, readers and communities around the world.


https://www.palestinechronicle.com/about/

Medea Benjamin is listed...

Although, he is not listed as a writer/contributer on their "about" page, he has contributed and written plenty:

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/writers/abdallah-aljamal/

[Igel]

18. Fellow travelers.

Some awake to being a fellow traveler or "ally," but many ignorant of their allegiances.

The Soviets in the '20s and '30s referred to what many would call "allies" as fellow-travelers and pretty much held them in contempt, playing them to get what they wanted--agitate in the US, donate, support,. (Yeah, it was Russian malinformation--"agitprop"--but the believers believed more than the believers knew.)

[EX500rider]

32. And in a pretty ballsy move, Israel agents entered Nuseirat camp in disguise ahead of rescue op...

Israel agents entered Nuseirat camp in disguise ahead of rescue op, some claiming to be displaced Gazans renting an apartment in building where Noa Argamani was held.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/special-forces-said-to-have-posed-as-gazan-civilians-hamas-fighters-to-near-hostages/

[Cha]

127. Wow.. TY for this.. IDF is

nothing if Not "ballsy"!

The Saudi-owned Asharq news channel quoted local residents saying that a special forces unit, including women, entered the camp in disguise, driving in a white car loaded with mattresses. They said the women were dressed in clothes “that women are wearing here in the war.”

According to the report, the special forces introduced themselves to local residents as Palestinians escaping the Israel Defense Forces operation in Rafah, and said they had rented a place in the area around the market in Nuseirat, while pointing at the building where hostage Noa Argamani was being held. The three male hostages who were also rescued in the operation — Andrey Kozlov, Shlomi Ziv and Almog Meir Jan — were being detained in another building 200 meters away.

Khatib/Flash90)
Some of the Israeli special forces that entered the Nuseirat camp in Gaza on Saturday to conduct a large-scale operation to free four hostages posed as displaced Gazans or as Hamas fighters, according to eyewitnesses quoted in Arab media outlets.

The Saudi-owned Asharq news channel quoted local residents saying that a special forces unit, including women, entered the camp in disguise, driving in a white car loaded with mattresses. They said the women were dressed in clothes “that women are wearing here in the war.”

Speaking the language Fluently!

[EllieBC]

53. Journalist for a paper based in WA.

So so so shocked that the tolerant PNW is home to a paper with a journalist who holds hostages for terrorists.

[RandySF]

58. I'm sorry to say this....

but I think Hamas and Gaza society are intertwined.

[stage left]

77. I do believe

that you are correct. It is probably impossible to cut out the cancer, Hamas, without damaging, at least in part, the body, Gazan innocents, with which it has, maliciously, intertwined itself. I'm thinking of it now like the skin cancer I just had cut out of my hand. Said hand was damaged and hurts like hell at the moment. It will heal though. Not so dead children. It's all a dreadful dilemma.

[lapucelle]

78. Many of them have been propagandized from early childhood.

Remember when we used to call it brainwashing?

[TheKentuckian]

170. Clearly. This has been obvious the whole way. The denials illogical and bizarre.

Whether the Gazans like it that way may be debatable but the fact of life cannot be, they have had control for a long time now.

[MOMFUDSKI]

82. This is

War. How can you be shocked?

[RandySF]

84. How many WW2 or Vietnam War correspondents

held prisoners? And these ‘POW’s’ were civilians.

[lapucelle]

89. What are you talking about? I'm not shocked that terrorist operatives were holding hostages in an apartment building

inhabited by civilians, in a civilian area near a market.

Terrorists have no respect for human life, and for Hamas, civilian casualties are a feature, rather than a bug. That's why they have no reluctance to use anyone, including children, as human shields. Everyone has known for years that Hamas embeds with civilians and operates out of civilian infrastructure like schools, hospitals, apartment buildings, and UNRWA facilities funded through international aid.

NATO has been reporting on it for years.
https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

Nor am I shocked that yet another "Palestinian journalist" has turned out to be nothing but a brutal, opportunistic amoral scumbag.

I wonder if Reporters Without Borders will make a statement. They are very good at virtue signaling. Let's see if they're equally good at accepting responsibility for stoking Hamas narratives concerning "journalists".

Terrorist Abdallah Aljamal was a contributor to The Palestine Chronicle. On June 3, he published an article with the headline

“My House Will Always Be Open – Stories from the Gaza Siege.”

And that fittingly ironic title, thankfully, will be his final byline.

[EllieBC]

94. No i am not shocked that gazan civilians

were holding hostages for Hamas.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

96. I do NOT trust reports from HAMAS linked reporters

The numbers of deaths from Gaza are not reliable

[MarineCombatEngineer]

100. Welcome to DU

what toppings do you prefer on you upcoming tombstone pizza?

[lapucelle]

102. Apparently I struck a nerve.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

103. It would seem so, but MIRt is on the job and took out the trash.

[sheshe2]

104. Did you see it.

Jeebus, that was nasty! 🤢

[lapucelle]

114. I copied it, but the post was removed before he got his donut.

[sheshe2]

117. Ooops!

Another one just arrived…you Cha and myself were mentioned! 😱😆

[lapucelle]

119. Someone's busy....

[Mossfern]

105. What was that?

Wow

[lapucelle]

115. I've struck a few nerves here today.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

116. Yep, and MIRt has taken care to take the MAGAt trash out.

[Cha]

122. Yes Struck it Right out of here 🍕🍕

Mahalo!!🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸

[Ace Rothstein]

106. Least surprising thing I've heard all day.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

108. Welcome back and goodbye.

Don't you ever get tired of trolling?
BTW, you never answered what you like on your Tombstone Pizza.

MIRt, please take out the MAGAt trash.

[sarisataka]

109. Quick return

I wonder who reced this

[MarineCombatEngineer]

110. Might've been me by mistake, that mistake has been rectified. nt

[sarisataka]

111. I see that. The sad thing is i wasn't surprised.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

113. They'll be back again, the MAGAt's just can't resist.

Thank you MIRt for the job you do, I did 2 stints on MIRt and was amazed at the trolls that were trying to disrupt DU.

[GP6971]

112. Hello. You sound nice!! Bye

[sheshe2]

120. ...

[JustAnotherGen]

125. It is plain as day

further evidence of the deliberate use of civilian homes and buildings by the Hamas terrorist organization to hold Israeli hostages captive in the Gaza Strip.

Like - If my husband keeps someone kidnapped by the Hell's Angels in our home and the cops find out about it - there's a good chance we could get killed when they try to rescue that person from our Civilian home.

Regardless - the guy was a kidnapper and I hope he got what he deserved along with anyone else aiding and abetting in his criminal ehavior.

This isn't Waco folks.

[lapucelle]

126. The journalist's father was also killed in the rescue mission. He was a doctor.

Journalist, doctor held Israelis hostage in Gaza

They were reportedly killed along with other family members during Israel's Nuseirat rescue operation.

https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/journalist-doctor-held-israelis-hostage-in-gaza/

[thucythucy]

129. I thought a part of the oath doctors took was

"first do no harm?"

I would think keeping someone as a hostage for months at a time is a classic example of "doing harm."

Did he think his duty to humanity didn't apply to Jews?

I can think of some other doctors who had that same belief.

[JustAnotherGen]

132. Me too

[yagotme]

152. You do know, that Hamas will report these as "civilian" deaths,

even though we all know that the family HAD to assist in guarding the hostage.

[JustAnotherGen]

131. From that article

They really think that they will go unscathed.

Following checks by the IDF and the Shin Bet, it can be confirmed that [journalist] Abdullah al-Jamal was an operative of the Hamas terrorist organization, who kept the hostages Almog Meir, Andrey Kozlov and Shlomi Ziv in his family home in Nuseirat,” the military said in a statement posted to X.


“Abdullah’s family home held hostages alongside family members. This is further proof that the Hamas terrorist organization uses the civilian population as a human shield,” the statement added.

[RandySF]

155. A journalist should be intelligent enough to know

that he put his family members at risk by holding hostages.

[Sugarcoated]

168. When you put trolls on ignore

Stories become much more readable. Just sayin

[JoseBalow]

169. "168 replies"

Not even close!

[yagotme]

172. More readable, but with less LOL's... nt