We will know that they know when FOX Propaganda turns against him.

[kentuck]

They will know that there is no way for him to win. He is a loser for them all. And they will need to cut their losses at some point.

The best thing that could happen for their Party would be if Judge Merchan did their dirty work for them and locked him away. So long as he is in their midst, they will be licking his boots.

But, the hardest truth is that when he loses, they lose.

My hope is that, that breaking point is coming soon.

[MOMFUDSKI]

1. Well said!

Thanks

[pdxflyboy]

2. Great post, as usual, Kentuck!

n/t

[spanone]

3. K&R

[Funtatlaguy]

4. The beginning of the end of the Trump era will be June 27.

Big moments until now and Nov 5.
Debate June 27
Sentencing July 11
RNC Convention July 15
DNC Convention August 19
Debate Sept 10

[duhneece]

20. I'd add the SCOTUS Immunity hearing nt

[Funtatlaguy]

30. Only if it's sent back with no restrictions & trial starts in August

[wryter2000]

51. IMHO, the beginning of the end came on the day he was found guilty

But that's just a quibble with your post. I cannot wait for June 27. I hope the moron shows up to debate. Then, we'll see whose brain is slipping.

[struggle4progress]

65. He don't show, we notes the big yellow stripe up his back.

He shows, we notes him a big blithering nits wit

[Johnny2X2X]

5. Well, Trump is the betting favorite to win right now

Basically a pick em, but he's a slight favorite.

The entire media loves Trump, I think he's spent the last 4 years planting people who answer to him at all elevels of the media and is having an effect.

[CrispyQ]

12. I'm not saying we don't need to GOTV like our country depends on it cuz they're gonna steal it if they can, but

the media never talks about how fucking sick & tired the majority of us are of this small, petty man.

[Silent3]

36. Are you disagreeing with the betting markets, or disagreeing that the betting markets...

…currently favor Trump?

[Farmer-Rick]

19. The filthy-rich love the convicted felon

They always bet on him. They have the money to lose....and they do. So you can't really trust the accuracy of betting markets.

Here's one that will make you think: "In 2013, economists Rajiv Sethi and Rothschild, now at Microsoft Research, concluded a single “whale” had bet $4-7 million on Mitt Romney to defeat President Barack Obama in 2012 – fully one-third of all the money bet on the Republican."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jayginsbach/2024/06/08/oilers-panthers-stanley-cup-finals-2024-preview-odds-picks-and-series-tracker/?

Wishful thinking...err...betting.... by the capitalist elites.

[NJCher]

25. THAT is amazing

Never heard that story.

I've never been interested in betting or gambling in any shape, form, or fashion, but as luck would have it, I happen to know someone who is. You know you're good when a bookie won't take your bets.

I'll just say this: a lot of betting and gambling is by people who just enjoy it or have to do it for some genetic reason (addiction).

Then there are the people who apply their brains and computers to this task. They are few and far between. Maybe a tenth of a percentage of the betting market. Those would be the people to watch.

[Farmer-Rick]

32. Yeah, I've never found betting to be enjoyable

But I do like watching betting behavior. I have a brother who was nearly a professional poker player.

It's interesting to me because it combines preconceived ideas about odds and chance with actual measurable behavior.

[wryter2000]

53. Win what?

Certainly not the debate. And as for the election, don't go by polls. They've been off for years.

He never won the popular vote. He didn't win the electoral vote in 2020. Since then, he hasn't won over a single voter, and he's lost a lot of Republicans.

[Botany]

6. Trump has 3 paths for his future

Die in prison
Die waiting to go to prison
Feeing the country

[PatSeg]

18. Or stroke out and become a vegetable

[magicarpet]

45. I like your way of thinking,...

... but could we have a little bit of drool now and then ?

... he seems to have the incontinence and deficating - "Oops, I think I just pooped myself" thing down pat already.

[PatSeg]

48. Oh definitely the drool

I want him to be fully conscious but unable to talk; maybe he could grunt in reply to a question. He would have to watch the world from his wheelchair and be totally helpless. Ya want a Diet Coke Donnie? Well, fuck you.

[gopiscrap]

57. this is my favorite scenario

[PatSeg]

59. It feels like justice

Unlike many, I don't relish the thought of him dying, because that would be the easy way out. Let him helplessly witness the consequences of a lifetime of dishonesty and corruption.

[Walleye]

7. We will know Trump is over when Putin is done with him

[SARose]

8. The RNC already knows he's losing

Here

The link is to a Beau of the Fifth Column video today. Thanks Texas Towlie. Additional info there, too.

After years and years of railing against mail in ballots, why is Cheeto man and the RNC heavily promoting it?

Hmm?

[ITAL]

9. I think they did want to be done with him

Honestly, I think they did, but Trump had brainwashed his supporters so much that once they began losing viewers when they put him at arm's length, they felt like they had to run back.

I have an Aunt who jumped off of the Fox News train during one of their spells with distancing themselves from Trump. She now says they've sold out out and are just as bad as CNN and the rest of the mainstream media, and has never gone back to them. THAT'S why Fox and the rest of the RW echo chamber can't quit him, the base is somewhere closer to Breitbart than Fox News...so FNC has to go further right to keep them.

[PatSeg]

21. "Just as bad as CNN"?

That's pretty sad. So Fox "sold out" by actually being somewhat truthful. After awhile, nothing is extreme enough for his base. So they keep seeking out more and more bizarre sources for their so-called news.

I can see why it is said that people who listen to no news at all are better informed than Fox viewers.

[magicarpet]

47. Well you don't have to deprogram the not yet brainwashed,... thats one concellation compared to a MAGA.

Just highlight the not yet brainwashed to current events.

But the brainwashed trDUMPSTERS,.. that's a much different nasty bag of worms and venimous snakes.
You gotta deprogram the Fux outta them,.. then re-program them with facts, truth, and reality.

And they make it seem so painful to chastise the Tangerine Menace. It is like pulling all their teeth and finger nails out with a pair of channel locks but using no novacaine. They scream and cry like three year old babies.

Then 40% percent of them fail the reverse brainwashing attempt. Revert back to worshipping and singing the praises of Smelvis their Messiah and kissing the ground he walks on once again.

Oy,.. a tough nut to crack.

[PatSeg]

50. Very colorful description

Yes, the uninformed are preferable to the brainwashed. At least the ignorant are more like a blank slate and are capable of absorbing the truth.

As you said, the brainwashed have to be deprogrammed and that is tens of millions of people and many could be beyond help. In a certain context, the idea of "reeducation camps" isn't necessarily a bad thing. We'd just have to come up with a better name.

[magicarpet]

58. Maybe we could sub-contract the de-programing job to Putin.

Fly the brainwashed MAGA 10s of millions to Russia. As soon as the airliner taxis into place, they open the doors, and move the stairs to place. Once the passangers alight the aircraft and their feet hit Russian ground, the American Embassy runs over to immediately expatriate them and renounce their American citizenship, tear up all their passports and void them.

Now they are in the safe haven of Mother Russia with strict Orthodox khrishtianity and Father Putin to watch over them. We inturn rid ourselves of this MAGA scourge,.. or a big chunk of it at the least.




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[._.]

10. Yes

I've been thinking that locking him up would be a huge favor to the GOP. They may decide to cut their losses and nominate someone else at the convention (Nikki).

[magicarpet]

11. Nah,.. your barking up the wong twee,..

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1.) The 1% super high income folk just love thems some trDUMP tax breaks for the rich. Without trDUMP at the helm steering this ship of state thems tax breaks for the rich are going to go bye-bye and get tangled up in the sunset law and disappear by poli-osmosis.

trDUMP will re-instate/re-enact those tax cuts for the rich and guarantee they survive for another five years and fucking $2 TRILLION fucking dollars fucking poof disappears from the US Treasury. Plunder, pilfer, and cheat is the trDUMP modus operandi - and when the government handouts go exclusively to the rich,... the rich bear hug and love them some trDUMP. They just can't get enough of Santa trDUMP baring gifts upon gifts upon rebates and handouts 365 days per year.

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2.) There is a love/hate dichotomy charade going on here. Very occasionally do they bad mouth trDUMP. But only when they have a fit of explosive anger.

Oops it inadvertently posted,.. I was not fucking ready yet. Now where was I.....

Oh ya,...

....the only time this explosive anger leaks out is when trDUMP does something particularly Hitler the Dictator or outrageously Machaveliian the villan-esque.
Then when things quiet down and they themselves quiet down they invariably circle back around and bear hug them some more trDUMPie.

Many people scratch their heads and wonder - why do these people come back for more punishment, insults, and endless debasement - incessantly dished out by trDUMP ?

It is because the ReThug Party is loyal to two causes. Those being fucking endless and fucking limitless access to MONEY & POWER.

They know if they can find a heartless, vindictive, retaliatory, and ruthless dictator they can achieve their Hyper-Fascist & Hyper-Capitalist society then gift wrap it all up in the beatitudes of Dominionist brand of Orthodoxy - their Khrishtun utopia will then become a poIitical and societal reality.

The reality is Mr. Donald John TrDump is exactly and precisely the perfect vehicular motif that will enable them to reach that final destination. A Fascist Capitalist Khrushtun Theocracy will soon be theirs.

They are so close to reaching that final destination. They are not under any circumstances contemplating switching horses at this point in their total grab for power.

trDUMP is indeed a flawed being,.. but with all his bone spurs, bunions, blisters, boils, syphilis, gonorrhea, and trichomoniasis eating away at his brain - they pay that no mind - trDUMP is the key that unlocks the door to unchecked and eternal control of governmental power over the United States of AmeriKKKa.

Any strongman oligarch would be envious to have such a feather as that proudly displayed in his fancy hat. USA,... USA,... USA,.. is no longer ours,.. but now it is all just theirs now. Fuck the rest of you... said the Dictator with a grin & a smirk on his face. We ckmplain about their plundering of our treasury,.. they nit only took that ,... but from under our noses they grabbed the whole fucking thing - lock, stock, and barrel.

I quess this is what happens when there is not sufficient oversight of governmental operations and the three branches therein,... you wake up one day and poof - Democracy magically disappears for evah.

[CrispyQ]

14. I agree with your assessment.

The 1% see the climate chaos coming, the scarcity of resources, & this is their chance to suck up everything left of value. I'm sure most of them find Trump crude & vulgar but if he can get the unwashed masses to vote against their own interests & open the gates, they'll overlook all that.

Humanity's on a bad trajectory.

[NJCher]

27. in a nutshell

They'll take him for the tax reasons and because he's made it clear he can be bought off, but they'd rather not have the complications of his crazy persona.

[magicarpet]

31. Their grab for total power is paramount....

... if they are forced to suffer the indignities of djt - so be it,.. the grab for money and total power is the - end all - be all - goal.

They are so close,.. the smell and the taste is so within their grasp. It took decades of planning, scheming, and maneuvering- they think they will soon be owning the tail of the bucking donkey and the Libs that ride it.

We gut news for them.

[kentuck]

33. "We have always been at war with Eastasia..."

The haves and have nots have been at war forever and sometimes the "have-nots" tend to forget when they become a little comfortable.

[magicarpet]

37. Just as a reminder,...

... down in royal castle on the third level sub-sub-basement placed in storage long long ago were thems guillotines.

We may have to take them out of cold storage, dust them off, and test fire them up, should we have to use them once again some day soon.

Howz that sayin' go....

The Tree of Liberty needs to be periodically watered with blue blood to keep it nourished & thriving.

Or sumthin' sorta' like that.

[kentuck]

43. They have the money...

...but we have the numbers.

[magicarpet]

61. If the numbers are motivated enough to go pull the blue voting lever.

Hope reigns eternal.

[BlueTsunami2018]

13. I don't know where people are getting the idea that this guy can't win again.

He absolutely can. His convictions haven’t moved the needle at all and this is still a coin flip election. Throw in the idiot third parties and the idiots who would rather have Тяцмр win than support the President because of Israel’s war against Hamas and we are in extremely dangerous territory.

We have to GOTV like never before. We are in the fight of our lives here.

[magicarpet]

38. Check,..

.... let's give this waiter a good tip.

[wryter2000]

54. Forget the needle

Poll after poll after poll have shown they don't predict much. Democrats keep beating polls. Reliably.

The only real data we have are what people have done - real votes - and they have reliably gone to Democrats. He has never won the popular vote. Last time, he lost the electoral vote. This time, he'll get even fewer votes.

But your conclusion that we need to get to work is certainly correct.

[Wednesdays]

15. Faux Noise may dump tRump, but not until after the election

If they turn on him now, and he somehow gets nixed as the nominee at the convention, there will be nothing but chaos until the election, and the vote will be a total annihilation of the GOP.

Fox will back him until at least Election Day, or whenever he stops being useful, whichever comes later.

[lonely bird]

16. It doesn't matter

Faux Noise has occasionally of late pushed back. While Faux and RW radio are responsible for the creation of Trump the people who are more to blame are RW voters. Their lack of critical thinking and inherent racism allowed Trump to become what he is. Anyone could have seen what Trump was yet it did not matter.

Faux Noise will simply trot out the next RW lunatic if Trump loses and especially if he lands in jail. It is very likely that none of the usual suspects like Cruz or Rubio or DeathSantis or Haley will be the one they select. I figure it will be the idiot J.D.Vance or Clay Higgins or some other buffoon that will get the backing of Faux Noise after 2024. Unless Trump wins then we are fucked along with much of the world.

[Arne]

29. Lord Voldemort.

We've been stuck with him since they slapped
his hand over billions of Medicare fraud.

[magicarpet]

42. NBC is also a major culprit here who delivered djt to our doorstep.

The Reality TV Show,..

"The Apprentice"

"Your Fired"

NBC screwed the head on this political Frankenstein monster and unleashed him upon the political landscapes to devour our three branches of government and them barf them back up like they were vomit.

We must remain forever thankful to NBC that this djt piece of human shit backed up out of that toilet of television ratings games. They made tons of money off that entertainment fiasco and what did AmeriKKa get in return ? A total buffoon that endlessly haunts the White House and lacks the common sense of pride, decency, & courtesy to just go the fuck away.

Don't you understand you Orange Menace,.. you lack the qualification, the presidential timbers or lumber to even cross the threshold to the Oval Office - let alone plop your fat ass there in that room and gum the place up royally. Get lost, disappear, be gone, bye-bye, take a hike.

[lonely bird]

44. Ratings, ratings, ratings

Appeal to the lowest common denominator and you’ll never go broke.

Never watched his trash show. Anyone should be able to look at him, gages his actions/reactions and look at his history to know he is mentally and emotionally damaged.

Imo, his TV show was simply symptomatic of the crap that results from lowest common denominator. I watched part of one episode of Survivor and knew it was contrived crap. Anything claiming to be reality is far from it. I don’t expect plays, concerts or “films” to dominate the media. I like good brain candy as much as anyone (grew up on Marvel comics and love the movies). It is just that media is a positive feedback loop for psychotic crap.

[magicarpet]

49. I think the dictates from the top are like you said,..

... keep it stupid,... the lowest common denominator is just fine. That is just what the studio executives clamor for - keep it stupidly stupid on television programing.

Have you watched WWE crap ?

trDUMP is a major mascot of Wrestle Mania. See trDUMP in action on national television cracking heads for his adoring audience and fan base.

https://youtube.com/shorts/BwaJ69P410U?si=3jblCTyN8v8JmWmh

Many of these people can be found in the waiting line to enter MAGA Nazi Rallies. Or the same people who stand in line to vote trDUMP.

[lonely bird]

60. No argument from this corner

Seems like Trump is the guy your parents would tell you to never buy a used car from.

Ever see the movie Tin Men? That is Trump.

[Blue Idaho]

22. I'm hoping for the total destruction

Of the GOP. Just keep those fascist blinders on - the loss will lead to a Republican bloodbath and it can’t happen too soon.

[ECL213]

23. I worry more about the intelligent, sane, charismatic fascist who will replace him.

[marble falls]

24. I think they'll just step back from him and let him hang in the wind.

[jaxexpat]

26. You are so right.

Insofar as the regulars in the GOP are concerned, Trump was never their choice. They were saddled with him. The Republican's biggest lift will be how they rid themselves of his lingering stain without making themselves even more of a minority than they have been since 1932. For this task, Fox News and similar propaganda outlets may prove useless.

[H2O Man]

28. Recommended.

I've seen an RNC official say that they are making plans in case the felon is incarcerated, so that he can still "deliver" his speech to the convention. We need to stomp the shit out of the republican party in the November elections.

[kentuck]

34. Remember when he was paying someone for an online poll?

My guess is that he is paying a lot of people for good poll numbers. I don't trust any information coming from the Trump campaign, even though FOX Propaganda is back on his wagon and doing everything possible to help him with his lies.

[H2O Man]

35. You are absolutely right.

Those who do polling are rarely as accurate as those predicting the weather five months out. I've never paid much of any attention to national polls. State polls are much more important, but even then, it all comes down to who gets out the vote. And that translates to the campaign with the best connections with the grassroots.

[magicarpet]

55. Who pays for the polling to be done is a big piece of the polling puzzle

If an unscrupulous poster is paid for by an equally unscrupulous political candidate,.. use great caution in the reliance of the validity of that poll. It has likely been tweeked to make the paying candidate look good with superlative polling number results.

Yesterday high ethics in polling was the norm. Today ethics is more likely to be shoved in the back seat or locked up in the truck with hands bound with a zip tie and duct tape.

[H2O Man]

64. Definitely!

We all want what we pay for, I suppose. Including those that want to misinform the public.

[Initech]

46. Fox News is the reason why we're in the mess that we're currently in.

They're not just a news network - they're an existential threat to the United States. Trump is a useful idiot to them. When he's no longer useful, they'll dump him for someone much scarier. Trump is a symptom. Fox News is the problem.

[GoodRaisin]

62. Rupert Murdoch created the monster. It came out of his brain.

He is like Dr. Frankenstein.

[Initech]

63. Yup, and wherever he goes, authoritarianism and fascism follow.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Murdoch and Putin were in cahoots with each other. It sure seems like they are.

[diane in sf]

52. Putin still has kompromat on a bunch of the republicans, so don't expect good behavior from them any time soon.

[brewens]

56. I wonder if the contractor for that Vegas shitshow Trump trashed is run by a loyalist? I'm willing to bet

the monitor was set up to trump's specs. He just can't see worth a shit. If they wanted to push back they could say so and demonstrate that it was just fine.