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[Hugin]

1. In an undisclosed location...

As always.

[WarGamer]

2. Shrub is probably protecting the political future of Georgie P.... who likes Trump and Trump likes him.

And Liz's Dad has spoken quite a bit on Trump.

[WarGamer]

6. would have loved to kno what Putin was thinking as Shrub was driving him around in a pickup truck.

[TSExile]

3. Exactly.

Would Dick Cheney have spoken out at all in the past if his daughter hadn't been in the RAPIST's crosshairs?

[Johnny2X2X]

4. Dick Cheney has spoken out

W has said nothing. He could save the country by getting Republicans to wake up, but he just doesn't care enough to do anything to help the US.

[Ocelot II]

21. I don't think the current crop of Republicans would care what he has to say.

W was awful but he was never this particular brand of awful. The Trumpistas would consider him a RINO.

[Misery Business]

43. Don't be so sure. A lot of Republicans hate Bush now.

They see Bush as part of the globalist agenda. I actually don't think his speaking out can help all that much solely because his party seems to have turned on him.

In 2018, Bush's unfavorable ratings rose to 21% among Republicans. That was compared to 7% in 2015, or before Trump.

You might think 21% isn't all that high but it's pretty significant. To put that into perspective, Obama's unfavorable among Democrats in that same poll was just 3%.

[pwb]

7. Closer to the election

I think such people will speak out. You are right about Silence, it is news at fox.

[WarGamer]

10. If Shrub speaks out... he hurts Georgie P, his nephew

And Georgie P is the final "Bush" in the political power game.

And Trump likes him.

[kimbutgar]

13. Maybe Georgie is a potential VP Candidate

The convicted felon might think it would bring back the old school rethugs who have abandoned him.

[global1]

19. The Bush's Need To Be Very Mindful Of The Fact That Anything TCF Touches......

dies.

TCF might like Georgie P - but that liking him is like a 'kiss of death'.

Georgie P doesn't need TCF to become a power that be in the Repug Party.

He should make his move after TCF crashes and burns.

Really - if I were them - I'd avoid TCF as much as possible. Wait till TCF tanks - then take advantage of the new - 'without TCF situation'.

[CrispyQ]

51. Does he have any charisma or is he just a Bush? -nt

[Jilly_in_VA]

64. Georgie P

might be even dumber than Shrub, which is saying a lot. Jeb was probably the last Bush with a brain, and he did not use it well.

[malaise]

9. The silence is deafenibg

Rec

[Aristus]

11. George W. Bush has never had a thought worth investigating.

And Dick Cheney? Well, I guess he's too busy counting his ill-gotten billions...

[Silent Type]

12. If there is any truth to this article from 2021, george war bush won't be endorsing trump.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-04-20/george-w-bush-condemns-the-trump-era-republican-party

[GoreWon2000]

69. Bush/Cheney created the successful Presidential election stealing road map in 2000

that tRump used in 2020 and continues to use today. The U.S. News article was a typical pro Bushthief media downplay of the Bushthief theft of the 2000 election. This success emboldened future election stealers like tRump and the MAGAs. There would be no tRump today if it wasn't for the Bushthief/Cheney 2000 Presidential election theft in Florida in 2000.

[Blue Owl]

14. They're thinking "shit, we could have gotten away with a lot more..."

[Kid Berwyn]

15. They be worried.

If they pipe up, someone might get around to asking why the hell neither of them has been held responsible for lying America into an illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrous wars on countries that had ZERO to do with 9-11.

[BComplex]

20. Everyone already knows that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were about spreading billions of $$ to

Blackwater/Prince, the military industrial complex and Cheney's coffers. That is one reason we have so damn many billionaires in this country all of a sudden.

[mopinko]

50. halliburton did logistics. remember the soldiers electrocuted in showers?

burn pits were their idea.
and kbr, their predecessor did logistics in viet nam. in case anyone wonders what the point of that war REALLY was.

[Hotler]

16. Maybe those that are wealthy are afraid to make waves. If the orange one becomes dictator

he and an armed goon squad can put a gun to their head and make them sign over everything they own. Isn't that how Putin did it?

[Aristus]

31. It's certainly how many of Rome's worst emperors did it.

Once they'd squandered their personal fortunes, they would either compel their rich friends to leave all their money to them in their wills, and then have them murdered, or else accuse the money-havers of treason, execute them, and then confiscate their fortunes.

The rich assholes in this country have never read history, or they would be very worried about a greedy autocrat with no morals becoming the guy in charge.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

68. These MAGA idiots can't be bothered to read history or think ahead long term.

The only R who seems to be good at the long game is Mitch McConnell.

[czarjak]

17. Don'tGiveAShitsville probably.

Mission accomplished. Remember?

[Marigold]

18. G.W. is a born again Christian

I wonder if that plays in to his silence at all?

[underpants]

33. I think he's just following the traditional rule of not speaking out about other POTUS.

[Mme. Defarge]

22. Exactement!

Inquiring minds need to know.

[Think. Again.]

23. I doubt they care...

...they took full advantage of their time in office to do whatever they wanted, and they probably think that's what anyone in office would do.

[republianmushroom]

25. Hiding !

[republianmushroom]

34. Still 40 months and counting (including foot dragging)

[underpants]

37. I think Dick's opinion was basically stated by Liz's words and actions

As horrible as they both were, at least they have the decorum to follow the traditional rule of not speaking publicly about other POTUS.

[underpants]

63. Mmmm as long as it's positive it's okay I think

but sniping at another POTUS just looks petty and childish….but here we are, aren’t we?

[SamKnause]

39. Who the fuck cares ???

Those two evil pieces of shit should be serving life sentences for their invasion of Iraq.

Life sentences for promoting torture.

Fuck both of them.

[Johonny]

46. Established GOP fear damaging the brand name

The number that hate Trump and understand Trump is just a money sucking parasite is far greater than those that speak out. Mostly because they feel hurting Trump, hurts the brand. This has been true for always. Bush has been basically a political nobody since 2008. He will likely stay that way. Speaking truth to power was never his game.

[Johonny]

74. W's reaction to Trump's inauguration speech

"That was some weird shit." Pretty much said it all. No doubt Trumps treatment of Jeb firmly planted Trump on their shit list.

[onecaliberal]

48. Such a good point.

[H2O Man]

49. Cheney is very popular

among his family, and those corporations that capitalize on foreign wars. But he can communicate with these people in a non-public manner. He wasn't popular in the republican party by late 2007, and even W had cut his nuts off after the Plame scandal and the gross failure in Iraq.

W himself sticks by the unwritten rule that an ex-president does not speak ill of another holder of the office. His influence in the republican party today is shallow at very best. However, unlike Cheney, he might have some influence with some independent voters. There was a time when I wished it was W rather than his refrigerator-headed brother debating the felon. At least he wouldn't have put his tail between his legs like Jeb did.

[H2O Man]

70. Maybe.

I'm not aware of any that don't resent him. Many recognize him as a war criminal, which he is.

[Diamond_Dog]

55. GWB is just grateful to Trump for making him look smart.

[PeaceWave]

60. Most GOP voters now deny ever having voted for W.

[flying_wahini]

65. Simple answer. They DO consent.

[Upthevibe]

66. Chin music........

Maybe I'm giving too much credit but maybe there's been a conversation regarding whether Bush speaking out would do more harm than good.

Cheney has been very vocal about his disdain for dt. I saw an excellent interview/conversation between Jon Meacham and Liz Cheney (from a month or two ago) that a friend had DVR'd for us to watch together while I was working out of town.

We were able to get to it last night, and I thought it was powerful.

[mainer]

67. Cheney had nothing good to say about Trump in this video

"There has never been a bigger threat to our republic than Donald Trump.

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=dick+cheney+won%27t+vote+for+trump&mid=1BED49DBA87F7ABC96961BED49DBA87F7ABC9696&FORM=VIRE