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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(109,585 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:05 PM Jun 10

Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers 'Suckers' and 'Losers'

Donald Trump on Sunday called for President Joe Biden to take down an attack ad featuring a series of quotes attributed to the Republican in which he mocks dead soldiers.

The former president’s demand came on the same day that Biden honored fallen troops in a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery in France, the burial ground that Trump chose not to visit in 2018 and was later reported to have done so while describing the site as “filled with losers.” Trump has denied making the remark—and another in which he allegedly called more than 1,800 Marines “suckers” for being killed—ever since The Atlantic first published his purported words in 2020.

Those denials continued Sunday, first at a rally in Las Vegas. “He said I stood over graves of soldiers and I said: ‘These people are suckers and losers, the dead soldiers from World War I,’’ Trump said, referring to Biden. He went on to claim the whole episode was “made up” and, despite the Biden campaign knowing it’s “phony,” they still “took an ad using it—these are sick people.”

Trump appeared to be referring to an attack ad launched by the Biden campaign on Friday during the president’s visit to Normandy for ceremonies commemorating the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings. The video featured the reported “suckers” and “losers” quotes, along with audio of Trump mocking the late Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as being thought of as a “war hero” because he was captured during the Vietnam War. “I like people that weren’t captured,” Trump added.




https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-demands-biden-remove-ad-093232346.html

Truth hurts.
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Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers 'Suckers' and 'Losers' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 10 OP
I'm looking forward to the ad of trump demanding Biden remove the ad ColinC Jun 10 #1
Can anyone here believe Lindsey Graham calling D-Day a failure? I am truly sickened by these folks. Demsrule86 Jun 10 #6
Graham served in the Navy. viva la Jun 11 #79
I hate to defend Graham because he's a POS, but he was saying there was a failure to stop Hitler NYC Liberal Jun 11 #86
Fat whinny boy is mad because Pres. Biden is mocking him, calling our brave solders losers and such. SWBTATTReg Jun 10 #2
Biden Rebl2 Jun 11 #78
Sorry, Mr. trump, I like presidents that aren't convicted felons. Torchlight Jun 10 #3
I also like presidents who aren't RAPISTS. TSExile Jun 10 #7
"I did not have Potty Mouth with those corpses, dead soldiers." - GOP' Greatest Felon BoRaGard Jun 10 #22
I like presidents who are not evil Pieces Of $hit. AntiChrist evil. Crook, rapist, traitor Trueblue1968 Jun 11 #89
So what is Trump going to do to Biden if Biden says NO? rurallib Jun 10 #4
I understand legal genius Alina Habba is available to represent you... agingdem Jun 10 #46
That is the Trump way PatSeg Jun 10 #64
Treat TSF the way he treats others NanaCat Jun 10 #5
YES!! This is not the time to go high when they go low. TSExile Jun 10 #33
Yup. I was bullied and it maybe a bit petty of me, BlueKota Jun 10 #60
Same here...and I agree. TSExile Jun 11 #85
The ones who have actual authority are the worst. BlueKota Jun 11 #91
You had me at "beaten"... ECL213 Jun 11 #87
And they don't even have truth on their side, or evidence. We do. soldierant Jun 10 #59
Heck they even have the audio of what he said BlueKota Jun 10 #62
Double The Budget For This One, Sir The Magistrate Jun 10 #8
A sick dog whines. speak easy Jun 11 #90
His own chief of staff confirmed the statement Johonny Jun 10 #9
He also told John Kelly Hitler "did some good things"... agingdem Jun 10 #42
If The Atlantic didn't why should Joe? LiberalFighter Jun 10 #10
Trump claims only a "psycho" or a "very stupid person" would've made such statements. surfered Jun 10 #11
Trump is both. onecaliberal Jun 10 #16
"These people are suckers and losers, the dead soldiers from World War I,'' MagickMuffin Jun 10 #12
Sue if you can disprove it TSF IbogaProject Jun 10 #13
Ad makes Biden look strong and the response by tRump is weak and whiny. texasfiddler Jun 10 #14
He's been forced to play defense. Never good in a political campaign. tinrobot Jun 10 #15
Good. "Only a hit dog hollers." Double down on that ad, Joe! SunSeeker Jun 10 #17
Since Sir Francis Bacon "Slander boldly, something always sticks" markodochartaigh Jun 10 #18
Like LBJ and calling his opponent a Goat-F'er NanaCat Jun 11 #69
The draft-dodging republican felon wants what? BoRaGard Jun 10 #19
Love seeing him on the defensive ismnotwasm Jun 10 #20
sure does . r u ready donald for the debates. AllaN01Bear Jun 10 #21
He demands?...Bwahahahahahahahaaaa spanone Jun 10 #23
Pfft. GB_RN Jun 10 #24
Wow, that's a new name, and it's so perfect!! lark Jun 11 #68
Have At It! GB_RN Jun 11 #71
Thanks! lark Jun 11 #75
shithole said it..................... Lovie777 Jun 10 #25
Just as soon as you drop out of the race and report Emile Jun 10 #26
Trump loves to slander and defame others. Irish_Dem Jun 10 #27
Trump never retracted all those full-page ads demanding the death penalty for the Central Park Five. sop Jun 10 #53
Trump has never retracted one damn thing as I recall. Irish_Dem Jun 10 #55
He not only refused to retract it NanaCat Jun 11 #70
His Feelings EddieOnTheMesa Jun 10 #28
He's very demanding lately. Think. Again. Jun 10 #29
You know he said it when he denies saying it. He has a history of that. twodogsbarking Jun 10 #30
Dear Donnie, demand in one hand and shit in the other. Let us know which hand fills up first. 11 Bravo Jun 10 #31
OK, so someone else besides me BaronChocula Jun 10 #48
Happy Birthday! 11 Bravo Jun 10 #49
Thank you! BaronChocula Jun 10 #50
A belated Happy Birthday to you. I hope you had a wonderful day. niyad Jun 11 #77
Well, BaronChocula Jun 11 #84
My parents used to use that phrase a lot. 🤣 BlueKota Jun 10 #63
My grand-da used to say that all the time NanaCat Jun 11 #73
Obviously, this is what Biden ads need to repeat over and over. CoopersDad Jun 10 #32
Nah, fuck you, Trump. Initech Jun 10 #34
Felonious D said it. The Unmitigated Gall Jun 10 #35
Dotard breaks out in hives when he hears the truth about himself! PortTack Jun 10 #36
The RTumpster's own words will be his downfall... TIA... ultralite001 Jun 10 #37
Aren't you late for jail? Emile Jun 10 #38
Fuck your feelings tRump you're an anti-American snowflake. texasfiddler Jun 10 #39
Convict said what? orangecrush Jun 10 #40
Biden campaign to TCF: "Do the letters F O mean anything to you?" nt Buns_of_Fire Jun 10 #41
If he has a problem with the "losers" & "suckers" quotes, he needs to take it up with the Atlantic for publishing them. ShazzieB Jun 10 #43
Increase the ad budget and extend it's run. Bristlecone Jun 10 #44
Trump should reciprocate in countless ways. lpbk2713 Jun 10 #45
According to Mary Trump's book, at one point Junior announced that he was considering joining the military Rhiannon12866 Jun 10 #47
trump demands... Wounded Bear Jun 10 #51
Stay on the attack. Scruffy1 Jun 10 #52
The sick fuck can demand all he wants ProudMNDemocrat Jun 10 #54
How about fuck you, Motherfucker? Aviation Pro Jun 10 #56
Eat shit and die, motherfucker! Blue Owl Jun 10 #57
What is funny here edhopper Jun 10 #58
What's that, Donny? Emrys Jun 10 #61
Good ad. Liberal In Texas Jun 10 #65
How about never, Donald? Does never work for you? nt TBF Jun 10 #66
No one is claiming Trump "stood over the graves of soldiers" whopis01 Jun 11 #67
Trump can sure bet DENVERPOPS Jun 11 #72
Yeah, we are accusing him of doing it over their graves NanaCat Jun 11 #74
Let me guess... Mike Nelson Jun 11 #76
LOL! Trump is whining that Biden is telling the truth about him while he lies daily about Biden. Martin68 Jun 11 #80
HOW ABOUT AN AD OF TRUMP MOCKING JOHN McCAIN? Jimvanhise Jun 11 #81
Well convicted felon ex-president, one actions does have consequences, good or bad. republianmushroom Jun 11 #82
Go ahead... notKeith Jun 11 #83
Mr. President, please repeat this every time you're behind a microphone. spanone Jun 11 #88

viva la

(3,468 posts)
79. Graham served in the Navy.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:21 AM
Jun 11

But his allegiance to Trump matters more than his loyalty to the military and those who died liberating Europe from Hitler.

Here's the sequence of his change:
1. Trump goes to D-Day commemoration during his administration. He said and did disrespectful things about our military and those who fought and died.
2. Biden goes to D-Day commemoration and behaves with respect, honoring the heroic sacrifices.
3. Trump's behavior is back in the news, and people are talking about his disrespect for the heroes of D-Day.
4. Lindsey Graham decides that licking Trump requires joining him in sneering at those who served.
5. Also, he realizes he now has to denigrate the importance of D-Day and the immense (though destructive) achievement.
6. Once again he proves that loving Trump means hating all that is good.

NYC Liberal

(20,154 posts)
86. I hate to defend Graham because he's a POS, but he was saying there was a failure to stop Hitler
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:13 PM
Jun 11

before the escalation into another world war which is what led to D-Day being necessary. Not that D-Day was a failure. And he was comparing it to what will happen if we fail to stop Putin. This was in response to Tommy Tuberville claiming Putin has no interest in seizing land.

If you spent 15 minutes studying Putin and what he wants, he wants to recreate the Russian Empire. He's not going to stop in Ukraine. We celebrated the 80th anniversary of D-Day. It was a failure. It was the unnecessary war, described by Winston Churchill. We had a dozen chances to stop Hitler. It's not about NATO. It's not about American weapons in Ukraine. It's about a megalomaniac wanting to create the Russian Empire by force of arms. If you don't stop him, there goes Taiwan. So we've been slow as hell of helping Ukraine, but Senator Tuberville's analysis really misses what Putin's all about. He's an outlier, I think, in the Republican Party. I like him personally. But what did Trump do to get the weapons flowing? He created a loan system. They're sitting on 10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in- in Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China. If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of, that 10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China. This is a very big deal how Ukraine ends. Let's help them win a war we can't afford to lose. Let's find a solution to this war. But they're sitting on a gold mine. To give Putin 10 or $12 trillion for critical minerals that he will share with China is ridiculous


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey-graham-senator-south-carolina-face-the-nation-transcript-06-09-2024/

SWBTATTReg

(22,589 posts)
2. Fat whinny boy is mad because Pres. Biden is mocking him, calling our brave solders losers and such.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:16 PM
Jun 10

Never take Pres. Biden's words down mocking tRUMP. tRUMP will be the one mocked in the years to come for many reasons.

Rebl2

(13,834 posts)
78. Biden
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 10:59 AM
Jun 11

not mocking tfg, but just showing us all what Trump says about American soldiers that fight for our country. What kind of president talks about their country’s soldiers that way, saying they are losers and suckers.

Torchlight

(3,687 posts)
3. Sorry, Mr. trump, I like presidents that aren't convicted felons.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jun 10

A schoolyard bully folding faster than soggy paper, whining that people are doing to him what he habitually does to everyone else.

BoRaGard

(674 posts)
22. "I did not have Potty Mouth with those corpses, dead soldiers." - GOP' Greatest Felon
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:41 PM
Jun 10

REPUBLICANS DENY HAVING POTTY MOUTHS
and telling lies about their lies.

Trueblue1968

(17,327 posts)
89. I like presidents who are not evil Pieces Of $hit. AntiChrist evil. Crook, rapist, traitor
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:07 PM
Jun 11

That is Trump through and through.

#LockUpTrump .... 40 Years bin the slammer !!!!

PatSeg

(48,490 posts)
64. That is the Trump way
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:57 PM
Jun 10

Or at least threaten to sue him. The "suckers and losers" is out there now, so it wouldn't matter if they took the ad down. People have seen and heard it. It's not going away.

It doesn't serve Trump to keep repeating it however, even if he is denying he said it. All he's doing is reinforcing the phrase in people's minds. Politics 101.

BlueKota

(2,203 posts)
60. Yup. I was bullied and it maybe a bit petty of me,
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:21 PM
Jun 10

but I love to see someone else turn the tables and mock the bullies.

TSExile

(3,190 posts)
85. Same here...and I agree.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:08 PM
Jun 11

I don't like bullies...especially bullies in elected office. I don't like people who punch down.

BlueKota

(2,203 posts)
62. Heck they even have the audio of what he said
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:27 PM
Jun 10

about McCain. I am no fan of the late Senator, but at least he had the honor to serve, unlike Butthead Bonespurs.

Johonny

(21,220 posts)
9. His own chief of staff confirmed the statement
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:50 PM
Jun 10

Whereas Trump lies all the time. Let him sue and lose. Leave the truth up.

agingdem

(7,959 posts)
42. He also told John Kelly Hitler "did some good things"...
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jun 10

and remember Trump's "losers" and "suckers" comments were part of a conversation he had with John Kelly, a Gold Star father...

surfered

(924 posts)
11. Trump claims only a "psycho" or a "very stupid person" would've made such statements.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:07 PM
Jun 10

Well, Hell has frozen over boys and girls, because I agree with Trump on this...a psycho and a very stupid person did make those statement.


MagickMuffin

(16,110 posts)
12. "These people are suckers and losers, the dead soldiers from World War I,''
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:07 PM
Jun 10


World War I, I think President Biden just made his point!


IbogaProject

(2,952 posts)
13. Sue if you can disprove it TSF
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:19 PM
Jun 10

If you can't prove you didnt say it when we have proof you've said very similar things than tough beans Mr Felon.

texasfiddler

(2,003 posts)
14. Ad makes Biden look strong and the response by tRump is weak and whiny.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:22 PM
Jun 10

Last edited Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Good to see magats on defense. More please.

tinrobot

(10,987 posts)
15. He's been forced to play defense. Never good in a political campaign.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:28 PM
Jun 10

The Biden team needs to keep up the pressure.

markodochartaigh

(1,290 posts)
18. Since Sir Francis Bacon "Slander boldly, something always sticks"
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:34 PM
Jun 10

has been a common political dictum. It is great seeing that telling the truth boldly can be just as effective.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
69. Like LBJ and calling his opponent a Goat-F'er
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:41 AM
Jun 11

Bold slander that stuck because it made people wonder. 'It can't be true, but...what if it is?'

BoRaGard

(674 posts)
19. The draft-dodging republican felon wants what?
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:36 PM
Jun 10

the more the republicans whine about this the more people know the horrible thing the Convicted Republican Felon said about America's soldiers.

GB_RN

(2,555 posts)
24. Pfft.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:50 PM
Jun 10

Fuck off, dick.

Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent is just mad that his own words are being used against him. 😁

lark

(23,395 posts)
68. Wow, that's a new name, and it's so perfect!!
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:30 AM
Jun 11

Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent is amazingly fitting for tcf (the criminal felon). I may use this when I feel like waxing elogquent! lol

GB_RN

(2,555 posts)
71. Have At It!
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:45 AM
Jun 11

I came up with Cantaloupe Caligula first. Yesterday, it hit me that I could make an alliteration with it by adding “the Corpulent,” and still be quite the accurate description of him.

By all means, feel free to use and share!😁

Lovie777

(12,809 posts)
25. shithole said it.....................
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:52 PM
Jun 10

he's said a lot of crappy shit. Lies, threatens, talks about violence and hatred, towards others everything that JC would not do.

Irish_Dem

(50,754 posts)
27. Trump loves to slander and defame others.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:54 PM
Jun 10

But when people tell the truth about him, he is furious and demands a retraction.

sop

(10,667 posts)
53. Trump never retracted all those full-page ads demanding the death penalty for the Central Park Five.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:45 PM
Jun 10
 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
70. He not only refused to retract it
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:43 AM
Jun 11

He doubled down on it.

That's why I said to do the same to him. He's mad that Biden used his own words against him?

Double down by finding some more in the same vein to use against him.

BaronChocula

(1,743 posts)
48. OK, so someone else besides me
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:39 PM
Jun 10

and Robert DeNiro in "This Boy's Life" knows that expression. That made my birthday.

BaronChocula

(1,743 posts)
84. Well,
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:06 PM
Jun 11

I was relieved that a work standoff was resolved (by me caving, whaddaya gonna do) and Some El Pollo Loco for dinner. At my age, I guess it's a pretty good birthday.

Thank you for the wishes!

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
73. My grand-da used to say that all the time
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:47 AM
Jun 11

When my brothers or I said we wanted something unreasonable. Mum and her brothers said he used it all the time with them, too, and they were born between 1924 - 1939.

So it's been around for a very long time.

CoopersDad

(2,244 posts)
32. Obviously, this is what Biden ads need to repeat over and over.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:58 PM
Jun 10

In my own local activist battles, the bad guys often signal whatever it is I've found that damages them the most.

And that's how I know what has been most effective, and I've used it to good effect.

Make him even crazier, hit him where it hurts then hit him again.

ShazzieB

(17,036 posts)
43. If he has a problem with the "losers" & "suckers" quotes, he needs to take it up with the Atlantic for publishing them.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:22 PM
Jun 10

He probably didn't think there was anything wrong with what he said...until those words were used against him in a Biden ad and he realized they could damage him. Eat your heart out, Orange Hellbeast!

Rhiannon12866

(209,916 posts)
47. According to Mary Trump's book, at one point Junior announced that he was considering joining the military
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:32 PM
Jun 10

And his father responded that they would "disown him."

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,293 posts)
54. The sick fuck can demand all he wants
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:47 PM
Jun 10

That is a very powerful ad.

Joe is going to use his words against him in ads from here on out.

Emrys

(7,369 posts)
61. What's that, Donny?
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:26 PM
Jun 10

You want the ad taken down that quotes you, fearful of getting your elaborate hairstyle wet, describing war graves as “filled with losers” (unlike you, who famously boasted that you fulfilled your national service through the selfless winning sacrifice of trying to lay as many misguided women as possible despite the heightened risk of AIDS at the time) and that time you as commander-in-chief called loyal but dead marines “suckers” and that time you said of POWs that you preferred those who “weren’t captured”?

You want the one quoting you complaining that war graves were “filled with losers”, calling marines “suckers” and disrespecting POWs taken down?

That one?

OK, I remember those episodes clearly now. After everything else you've been up to in the mean time, they seem almost quaint.

Yeah, they'd better do that before anyone else is reminded of what you said. I'm sure they'll get right onto that.

whopis01

(3,558 posts)
67. No one is claiming Trump "stood over the graves of soldiers"
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 06:36 AM
Jun 11

and called them losers and suckers.


Trump refused to go to the cemetery, so he couldn’t possibly have stood over their graves when he called them losers and suckers.

DENVERPOPS

(9,133 posts)
72. Trump can sure bet
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:46 AM
Jun 11

there will be tens of millions standing over and around his grave! So much they will have to install large area drains in the grass around his tomb stone........

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
74. Yeah, we are accusing him of doing it over their graves
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:57 AM
Jun 11

Because he did. He said one of his loathsome remarks about the military dead to John Kelly at Arlington National Cemetery--over the grave of Kelly's son killed in Afghanistan, no less.

On Memorial Day 2017, Trump visited Arlington National Cemetery, a short drive from the White House. He was accompanied on this visit by John Kelly, who was then the secretary of homeland security, and who would, a short time later, be named the White House chief of staff. The two men were set to visit Section 60, the 14-acre area of the cemetery that is the burial ground for those killed in America’s most recent wars. Kelly’s son Robert is buried in Section 60. A first lieutenant in the Marine Corps, Robert Kelly was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan. He was 29. Trump was meant, on this visit, to join John Kelly in paying respects at his son’s grave, and to comfort the families of other fallen service members. But according to sources with knowledge of this visit, Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned directly to his father and said, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Kelly (who declined to comment for this story) initially believed, people close to him said, that Trump was making a ham-handed reference to the selflessness of America’s all-volunteer force. But later he came to realize that Trump simply does not understand non-transactional life choices.

“He can’t fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself,” one of Kelly’s friends, a retired four-star general, told me. “He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there’s no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker. There’s no money in serving the nation.” Kelly’s friend went on to say, “Trump can’t imagine anyone else’s pain. That’s why he would say this to the father of a fallen marine on Memorial Day in the cemetery where he’s buried.”

https://archive.ph/eRtK2#selection-967.0-967.1192

Mike Nelson

(10,061 posts)
76. Let me guess...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 10:08 AM
Jun 11

... Crooked Donald is upset because he did not mean "dead soldiers," and meant it to be "all soldiers"?

Martin68

(23,515 posts)
80. LOL! Trump is whining that Biden is telling the truth about him while he lies daily about Biden.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:34 AM
Jun 11

A true narcissist.

Jimvanhise

(318 posts)
81. HOW ABOUT AN AD OF TRUMP MOCKING JOHN McCAIN?
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:38 AM
Jun 11

On video Trump mocked John McCain's military service (he was a POW for 5 years) and said, "I like people who don't get captured" which doesn't even make any sense and Trump has never explained it or apologized to McCain's family.

notKeith

(142 posts)
83. Go ahead...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:39 PM
Jun 11

... you stupid fuck! You moron Mango Mussolini!
Why don't you sue the Biden adminstration, I dunno, maybe for slander, libel or defamation?
I think you should go that route if what you say (now) is accurate, that you NEVER said those things.
I would ** LOVE ** to see the discovery on that lawsuit - oh mah gawd.

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