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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMarine experts respond to Trump's electric boat remarks
https://www.southernfriedscience.com/for-immediate-release-experts-respond-to-concerns-over-the-relative-risks-of-electric-boats-and-shark-encounters/Before we start:
Dr. Andrew Thalers webpage: https://andrewdavidthaler.org/
Dr. Andrew Shiffmans webpage: https://search.asu.edu/profile/3531441
These two experts talked about the likelihood of being electrocuted if your electric boat sank in the ocean (none) and the likelihood of you being eaten by a shark if youre in the water after your electric boat sank (also extremely low).
They were then asked whether they would prefer to be in a boat with Trump or in the water with a man-eating shark. Both chose the shark.
HAB911
(10,346 posts)laughs at his ignorance
Ferryboat
(1,247 posts)Easterncedar
(5,755 posts)And throw him to the shark?
iscooterliberally
(3,152 posts)You'll be grabbing 350 pounds of bat shit stuffed into a 239 pound bag. Try not to get any on ya! Good luck!!
TSExile
(3,363 posts)I understand the sentiment!!
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...to electrocute him first.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)From wwii submarines which had massive battery banks (they ran on batteries while submerged) to surface ships that took on water, several hundred/thousand crew members were in flooded compartments with live circuits.
It's not an ah-ha moment in marine engineering.
And for the most part, sailors didn't die from electromocution.
Maraya1969
(23,442 posts)heard of any electrocutions.
underpants
(195,548 posts)Regarding whether he would prefer to be in a boat with the above candidate or in the water with a shark, Dr. Shiffman replied "I choose the shark. Every time." Dr. Thaler concurs.
Arne
(3,609 posts)Your boat will explode.
That's why I used to replace exhaust fans
and make sure it was started before the engine.
ProfessorGAC
(76,119 posts)One ounce (by weight) of gasoline, in its vapor state, diluted to 4% by volume in air, gives off as much energy 3 ounces of TNT.
Now, the rate of detonation is not as high, so the energy is released over a longer time, but still fast enough to go boom!
Arne
(3,609 posts)he go boom boom.
ProfessorGAC
(76,119 posts)So, bigger boom!
hlthe2b
(113,190 posts)But, I agree totally with the answer, despite near zero risk from the battery. Posed with remaining w TSF on a boat or taking my chances with the shark, I'll choose (a lifeboat) down with the shark.
yardwork
(69,087 posts)I remember people believing this decades ago but I didn't realize some still do.
Disaffected
(6,257 posts)are in the 400V range, with a few now in the 800s. Such voltages are lethal under the right conditions, such as a vehicle crash. That's why rescue personnel have to be v careful trying to extract someone from an EV crash or, mechanics working on/around the battery.
duncang
(3,767 posts)I was snorkeling off the Florida Keys. A shark was spotted and my first thought was can I get a picture. But it just made a swim by and left. Kind of pissed me off I didnt get a chance.
Ray Bruns
(6,098 posts)PurgedVoter
(2,685 posts)I was off the road near a bridge and saw sharks quite a bit larger than me sail by under the bridge. I was more scared of the the sea urchins.
Prairie Gates
(7,543 posts)PatSeg
(52,545 posts)as he does about hurricanes and wild fires. Apparently, no one ever told him that if you don't know something, keep your mouth shut.
Nasruddin
(1,205 posts)It's the Trumpian version of the Trolley Problem.
Would you throw him to the shark in order to save everyone else that was on the boat, or would you permit him to electrocute himself so that the poor shark starves?
louis-t
(24,582 posts)rather than eat an unsavory meal.
GreenWave
(12,464 posts)jmowreader
(52,992 posts)They list it as "professional courtesy."
LisaL
(47,365 posts)No, thank you!
Skittles
(170,184 posts)I doubt that oily orange stuff would be easy to digest
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)I would choose the bear or the shark anytime
PurgedVoter
(2,685 posts)First you have to ask, how did I get put in this situation? Second be careful, the odds are good that in the next room you may have to decide which way a trolley is going to go.
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...why trump doesn't just unplug the boat.
