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moonshinegnomie

(4,068 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:27 PM Jun 2024

a property tax proposal for corporate owned single family houses

If a corporation owns more the lets say 5 single family houses they get taxed at 2x the rate as for a owner occupied house.

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a property tax proposal for corporate owned single family houses (Original Post) moonshinegnomie Jun 2024 OP
Maybe we should keep it simple... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #1
I like your idea better. Even individuals who have second homes in a state Wonder Why Jun 2024 #8
It's not always that simple. LisaM Jun 2024 #9
Only problem is the tax gets passed on to the renter. lastlib Jun 2024 #10
makes RENTING more expensive... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #15
I would expect they'd just raise the rent to compensate for the higher tax. flvegan Jun 2024 #2
That's one way Zeitghost Jun 2024 #3
i dont think it would moonshinegnomie Jun 2024 #5
Well, I think that this threat of corporate ownership (sure there might be individuals who incorporated to get SWBTATTReg Jun 2024 #4
I like it. WarGamer Jun 2024 #6
I think it'd have to be up to localities. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #7
i think a lot of places have a homeowner exemption. mopinko Jun 2024 #11
Complicated, but there are ways to structure it. dobleremolque Jun 2024 #12
Taxes aren't ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #13
They already own them moonshinegnomie Jun 2024 #14
 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
1. Maybe we should keep it simple...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:33 PM
Jun 2024

If a house isn't the primary residence of the owner, it gets a federal tax on top of the standard local property tax.

This way, high-earners who can afford vacation homes can join the fun.

Wonder Why

(7,232 posts)
8. I like your idea better. Even individuals who have second homes in a state
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:23 PM
Jun 2024

with an income tax but live in one without the tax are getting a free ride because they don't pay for state services funded by such taxes. Like them infestations from Florida and Texas e.g.

LisaM

(29,682 posts)
9. It's not always that simple.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:26 PM
Jun 2024

My BF's family has a cabin that has been in the family since 1938. It's now set up in a trust. All of his siblings, their kids, and now some cousins use it. They are a long time member of the community and have ties going back to the 1850s.

It's not technically a first residence, but the biggest cost by far is the property taxes and if they were even doubled, the property might have to go out of the family. This would not be a benefit to anyone, including the community. It's used much of the year. If it went out of the family, it would most likely become an Airbnb or VRBO.

Any law like this needs to be very carefully examined so that there aren't unintended consequences.

lastlib

(28,594 posts)
10. Only problem is the tax gets passed on to the renter.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:55 PM
Jun 2024

makes housing even more expensive.

There has to be a better way. Maybe charging extra tax on rental above the amount of the mortgage payment.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
15. makes RENTING more expensive...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 06:55 PM
Jun 2024

....and if it discourages corporate buyers, more individuals can buy their own home.

flvegan

(66,509 posts)
2. I would expect they'd just raise the rent to compensate for the higher tax.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:36 PM
Jun 2024

They aren't going to take the penalty, they're just going to pass it on.

moonshinegnomie

(4,068 posts)
5. i dont think it would
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:44 PM
Jun 2024

for instance here in the austin area lets say a home has a property tax of 6k (typical). if they double it thats an extra 500/month in expenses. since it would only apply to corporate owned houses that would make them uncompetitive as opposed to houses that the tax doesnt apply to. so the corporation would more than likely just sell the house

SWBTATTReg

(26,395 posts)
4. Well, I think that this threat of corporate ownership (sure there might be individuals who incorporated to get
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:43 PM
Jun 2024

into the housing market, rental markets) is abating somewhat. W/ the minor downturn that some states have had (Florida, others), the corporate big boys have suffered losses and are scrambling to get out of real estate markets as fast as they can, since they burned their fingers. Good!

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
7. I think it'd have to be up to localities.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:17 PM
Jun 2024

Federal and even states are not too involved in property taxes unless like California they put it up for a vote during an election.

mopinko

(73,909 posts)
11. i think a lot of places have a homeowner exemption.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 03:31 PM
Jun 2024

cook co does. it doesnt amount to much, tho. if there was other revenue, it cd b significant.

dobleremolque

(1,130 posts)
12. Complicated, but there are ways to structure it.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 03:44 PM
Jun 2024

Dwellings owned by corporations or trusts composed of [x number of] stockholders or trustees related by consanguinity or marriage could be exempted. It could be structured like a windfall profits tax imposed specifically on corporations like private equity funds that derive [x%] of their revenue from their ownership of single family dwellings that are not owner-occupied. It could apply to corporate ownership of detached homes, patio homes, town homes, condominiums but not to apartment buildings that are specifically designed to be occupied by rent-paying tenants.

Lots of ways to creatively discourage vulture capital from making the housing crunch worse.

Isn't going to happen, but it's a good speculative exercise in taxation policy.

ForgedCrank

(3,120 posts)
13. Taxes aren't
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 03:56 PM
Jun 2024

an answer to the problem of high housing costs. Regardless of how you structure such a plan, it is the end consumer who will ultimately pay for it. A so-called tax on wealthy corporations will simply come out of the pockets of renters. It's the same as if you decide to triple the taxes for a drug company or food company. In the end, the people who need the assist are the ones who wind up with the bill.
A better answer is not allowing any LLC or corp to own single family dwellings.

moonshinegnomie

(4,068 posts)
14. They already own them
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 04:13 PM
Jun 2024

It would be very hard to force them to sell
As to renters paying it they would have to be competitive with non corporate owned houses which wouldn’t have to pay the tax. Where I live taxes run 6k or so a year on average. That’s 500 a month. It would be hard to raise rents to cover that if non corporate homes don’t have the added expense

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