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senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:31 PM Jun 2024

I know I've criticized Katy Tur on this site

more than once, and I am not retracting anything I've posted. In fact, nothing she's done recently has made me change my mind. She is a shallow journalist who is trying to ride her 2016 coverage of cheato for all its worth with no acknowledgement of how dangerous he is and how demented he sounds NOW in 2024. She defends him constantly.

BUT, apparently she is trending on twitter and has been for the past 24 hours or so because she made a point of saying that Jill Biden was not Hunter Biden's birth mother. It was in the middle of a discussion about how Jill has supported Hunter throughout the trial. Many posters are really offended by this. I am not sure if it is that offensive to me (I did hear it live), and I think I just took it as a statement of fact. Nevertheless, so many are offended by this that maybe I am missing something. I have never raised a child that was not mine biologically, so that could be it.

Then again, it's the kind of detail that she is always trying to inject into discussions about Biden, while she never does that with cheat's family. And we all know how much material there is there.

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I know I've criticized Katy Tur on this site (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jun 2024 OP
For all intents and purposes, Dr. Jill IS his mother. TSExile Jun 2024 #1
Yes I agree senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #4
Deplorable voters aren't smart enough to play tic tak toe - anything at all that sounds NoMoreRepugs Jun 2024 #2
My wife had 4 sons when I married her. From 9 to 30. Lochloosa Jun 2024 #3
I appreciate that input senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #5
I know I do. TSExile Jun 2024 #8
My opinion: It does not make a bit of difference if LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #6
I didn't hear the comment in context but... yardwork Jun 2024 #7
Unless used to support or weaken a statement, it's by definition, irrelevant Torchlight Jun 2024 #9
It was a nasty comment that Dr. Biden is not his mother. She has been his mother in all the ways that count. Lonestarblue Jun 2024 #10
I cant stand her. I wish MsSNBC woulf fire her Trueblue1968 Jun 2024 #11
I don't think anyone had a problem with her saying it NanaCat Jun 2024 #12
This is from an article in the WaPo some years ago about the family and there is this quote Bev54 Jun 2024 #13
It was rude and dismissive Jilly_in_VA Jun 2024 #14
I'm with you... democratsruletheday Jun 2024 #15
You don't have to be a biological parent to be a true parent Tribetime Jun 2024 #16
Laura Loonitic Loomer said the same thing. sheshe2 Jun 2024 #17
Wow singing from the same hymnbook as LL! senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #21
Katy has stepchildren of her own. TSExile Jun 2024 #18
That I didn't know senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #20
Who the fuck is she to passively-aggressively point this out PCIntern Jun 2024 #19

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
1. For all intents and purposes, Dr. Jill IS his mother.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:34 PM
Jun 2024

Hunter's biological mom died when he was very young, and Dr. Jill has been married to his dad since 1977. She helped raise him and thinks of Hunter and the late Beau as her own.

senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
4. Yes I agree
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:40 PM
Jun 2024

To me, that makes it even more poignant somehow. I see it as admirable, not something dismissive or insulting.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,076 posts)
2. Deplorable voters aren't smart enough to play tic tak toe - anything at all that sounds
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:34 PM
Jun 2024

negative or controversial is red meat for them. Katy TurD can go pound salt.

senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
5. I appreciate that input
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:41 PM
Jun 2024

As I said I have never had this experience, but I think most people admire those who have.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
8. I know I do.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:45 PM
Jun 2024

I am childless in my 40s and admire anyone willing to take on raising children that are not theirs biologically.

LuckyCharms

(22,648 posts)
6. My opinion: It does not make a bit of difference if
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:42 PM
Jun 2024

Jill is his birth mother or not.

He most likely loves her as a mom, and she loves him as a son.

She is supporting Hunter because she loves him.

Whether or not Jill is his birth mother or not is not newsworthy. However, their relationship and actions toward each other are newsworthy.

Ms. Tur's comment is fluff. It's bullshit. And it offends the hell out of me, especially considering the unwarranted, drooling MSM coverage of Hunter.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
7. I didn't hear the comment in context but...
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:44 PM
Jun 2024

On the face of it, I can't think of many valid reasons to interject the comment into a discussion of Jill Biden's support of Hunter.

Now I'm curious to go find it and hear it in context.

Torchlight

(6,829 posts)
9. Unless used to support or weaken a statement, it's by definition, irrelevant
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:52 PM
Jun 2024

to the particular argument. I've come to expect cable news stations to engage in as much, if not more, gossip as they do hard news.

'Does First Lady Biden's role as stepmother measurably strengthen or weaken, or demonstrably change any narrative or conclusion to the story referenced, or is it just more commercial gossip' is the question I'd ask myself if I'd seen the clip.

Lonestarblue

(13,479 posts)
10. It was a nasty comment that Dr. Biden is not his mother. She has been his mother in all the ways that count.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:58 PM
Jun 2024

There was no reason whatsoever to even mention this. She was there to support her son. End of story.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
12. I don't think anyone had a problem with her saying it
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:01 PM
Jun 2024

The first time. It's how she kept repeating it.

That was intentional, to denigrate Dr Biden's role in the family and her relationship with Hunter, as if to say she's 'only' his stepmother so nobody needs to pay attention to what she has to say about him.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
13. This is from an article in the WaPo some years ago about the family and there is this quote
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:24 PM
Jun 2024
Some years later, a magazine fact-checker called my Senate office with a deadline crisis. A story about our family was going to press, and the fact-checker was confused. She’d read about Neilia and Naomi and the accident, but when Beau and Hunt had been asked about their “stepmom,” Jill, they’d said, “Oh, no. We don’t have a stepmom.”
Beau and Hunter had long since made their choice: Jill was Mom.


The boys chose her as Mom, I doubt anyone felt it necessary to go through the legal step of adoption.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
14. It was rude and dismissive
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:24 PM
Jun 2024

I've never been a stepmom, but my daughter is a stepmom to EIGHT kids, and has been deeply involved in the raising of six of them since they were teenagers. Not one of them has ever said to her, "You are NOT my mom!" when there was an issue involved, even though none of them actually call her "mom". Every one of them has lived with her since they were teens and two of them still do, including one who had never had a stable home until he found it with her and his dad, and one who does so by choice although she's now 21. Katy Tur needs to get over herself with that idea.

democratsruletheday

(1,880 posts)
15. I'm with you...
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:26 PM
Jun 2024

on both counts. She's an annoying twerp but stating a fact (that Jill isn't HB's birth mother) isn't anything to get outraged over. People need to chill out.

senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
21. Wow singing from the same hymnbook as LL!
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 06:23 PM
Jun 2024

I wonder if Tur follows her on twitter. Some of these journalists on CNN and MSNBC seem to be very familiar with far rightwing talking points if you ask me.

PCIntern

(28,366 posts)
19. Who the fuck is she to passively-aggressively point this out
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:38 PM
Jun 2024

A at a time of great family stress and consternation?

Hey Katy: did I ever mention that you “lived in sin” with Olbermann for three years and barely mentioned it in your book even though he probably gifted you with what you needed to at least climb up onto the first rung of the ladder? But I need to mention that you didn’t marry him and why? Right…it’s none of my business and personal issues should remain just that. So why did you feel you needed to clarify that Jill is not his biological mother? Did you feel better after you did that? And by the way, how many children do you have? Two? And how have you explained your transgendered father to them? None of my business, right? Am I making my point clear? No? Yes? Time for your patented self-righteous sneer.

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