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brooklynite

(96,641 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:53 PM Jun 12

Another COVID vaccine? Yes, and here's why

Seattle Times

This fall, prepare for the latest round of COVID vaccine Whac-a-Mole. Like the old arcade game, no matter how many shots we get, the enemy always pops back up.

But here’s why the new shot, recommended by FDA advisers last week, makes sense: It targets a new version of the virus, the FDA panel said. It bolsters your body’s ever-growing defense system. And it’s a lot better than getting very sick or hospitalized.

Last year’s shot isn’t holding up. Protection against both infection and severe illness is waning.

“Effectiveness has decreased, as the time since vaccination has increased — and as new SARS-CoV-2 variants emerge,” said biostatistician Danyu Lin of the University of North Carolina School of Global Public Health, who presented worrisome new data to the FDA advisory panel.
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Another COVID vaccine? Yes, and here's why (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 12 OP
In Canada we are being recommended to get our covif shot riverbendviewgal Jun 12 #1
I've been doing every 6 months since they became available. Susan Calvin Jun 13 #24
Been getting them on the regular, when they come out...nt Wounded Bear Jun 12 #2
Same here. ShazzieB Jun 12 #18
Same here Klondike Kat Jun 13 #27
CDC is recommending a booster but the local pharmacy said they spooky3 Jun 12 #3
I get my flu shot n Covid shot every September so there should be no problem by then with distribution Deuxcents Jun 12 #5
Same Here ProfessorGAC Jun 12 #15
I generally wait until later so the protection doesn't wear off in March or so... Wounded Bear Jun 12 #19
Call around -- we got our most recent one at Costco Pharmacy & I don't think you have to be a member... Hekate Jun 12 #23
Yup Lemon Lyman Jun 13 #25
I'm going to treat this like the flu shot. viva la Jun 12 #4
Moderna is expected to release its new version with the flu shot combined. flying_wahini Jun 12 #6
I got a text from Rite Aid recently... rogerballard Jun 12 #7
I'm hesitant, even though I'm "due", because... thesquanderer Jun 12 #16
Conservatives will own the libs by not taking it IronLionZion Jun 12 #8
No big deal. GaYellowDawg Jun 12 #9
We'll be at the pharmacy to get it as soon as it's available surfered Jun 12 #10
I said 3 years ago that it is a fast mutator and would most likely be like the fluy Warpy Jun 12 #11
I'll get it as soon as it's available. Thanks for posting this article. n/t iluvtennis Jun 12 #12
They have them at CVS - TBF Jun 12 #13
We've had one every 6 months. onecaliberal Jun 12 #14
I just called another pharmacy a little farther away (in NoVA). They have Pfizer only, spooky3 Jun 12 #17
I was originally Clan Moderna, but I've had both...nt Wounded Bear Jun 12 #20
The Good Thing About Pfizer/BioNTech's Vaccine... GB_RN Jun 12 #21
I plan to get mine this Fall. As I did in April. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 12 #22
If you are a woman and your Mammo is due - Be sure and have it BEFORE you get vaccinated. flying_wahini Jun 13 #26
Unless another Delta rears its head; not for me. I've had my 2/1. oldsoftie Jun 13 #28
I'm in the same camp Zeitghost Jun 13 #31
Just be sure to factor in the risk of contracting long covid in your risk analysis. mahina Jun 13 #32
I know 2 people with the bad luck to have LC. Fortunately not more. oldsoftie Jun 13 #33
I haven't had one in a couple of years now Polybius Jun 13 #29
I live in Metro Vancouver, BC. BobTheSubgenius Jun 13 #30

riverbendviewgal

(4,265 posts)
1. In Canada we are being recommended to get our covif shot
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:57 PM
Jun 12

Every 6 months. I have had five i all together. I was surprised. I will be going for my 6th in a few weeks.

Klondike Kat

(823 posts)
27. Same here
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 12:03 PM
Jun 13

I contracted COVID last year at the end of June (right after I retired) and I can honestly say that I've never felt worse in my life. It felt like I had been "hit by a truck" (only guessing - I've never actually been hit by a truck). The first couple of days I was barely functional. Nasty headache, a little cough and chest congestion (not too bad), and I was incredibly lethargic. Fortunately I had been keeping up with the vaccination schedule - I hate to think what it would have been like if I hadn't been vaccinated.

Deuxcents

(17,374 posts)
5. I get my flu shot n Covid shot every September so there should be no problem by then with distribution
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 04:09 PM
Jun 12

Wounded Bear

(59,340 posts)
19. I generally wait until later so the protection doesn't wear off in March or so...
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 06:44 PM
Jun 12

Around here, weather is pretty wet and raw clear into April most years so I wait until at least October.

That's for the flu shot anyway. I've been getting them concurrently the last few years.

It's also dictated somewhat by when the VA has them available.

Hekate

(92,458 posts)
23. Call around -- we got our most recent one at Costco Pharmacy & I don't think you have to be a member...
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 07:27 PM
Jun 12

…to use their pharmacy.

Lemon Lyman

(1,404 posts)
25. Yup
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 09:52 AM
Jun 13

They were the one of the only pharmacies "around" (this Costco is still 100 miles away from me) who carrie the Novavax. We wanted that one last time, so we went there. The only downside was that my insurance wasn't accepted at Costco, so I had to pay whatever it cost to get the shot. I think it was in the $150 range.

rogerballard

(3,067 posts)
7. I got a text from Rite Aid recently...
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 04:59 PM
Jun 12

Adults 65+ are now eligible for an additional Covid-19 vaccine. Walk in or schedule today.

thesquanderer

(12,150 posts)
16. I'm hesitant, even though I'm "due", because...
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 06:17 PM
Jun 12

...there's indication that a new, better version of the vaccine will be available soon, and once I get a vaccine, I shouldn't get another for 6 months... so waiting may make sense...

IronLionZion

(46,027 posts)
8. Conservatives will own the libs by not taking it
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 05:10 PM
Jun 12

so that should leave more for those of us who want it. And we might have fewer conservatives by election time.

GaYellowDawg

(4,617 posts)
9. No big deal.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 05:22 PM
Jun 12

It's just a shot! The original and the first booster put me out like a light the next day. Like 12 hours of teenager sleep. I'm still hoping for a return to that!

surfered

(1,098 posts)
10. We'll be at the pharmacy to get it as soon as it's available
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 05:22 PM
Jun 12

We’ve had 5 shots so far and caught Covid once last fall. We were pretty sick and glad to have the protection against having to be hospitalized.

Warpy

(112,189 posts)
11. I said 3 years ago that it is a fast mutator and would most likely be like the fluy
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 05:26 PM
Jun 12

and require shots when new strains poked their spiky heads up. Eventually they'll just combine the two so we'll only have to get stabbed once.

I also expect this virus to weaken as it moves higher and higher in the respiratory tract to improve its chances of contagion, eventually becoming a sixth coronavirus that causes the common cold.

TBF

(32,652 posts)
13. They have them at CVS -
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 05:57 PM
Jun 12

Last edited Wed Jun 12, 2024, 09:07 PM - Edit history (1)

I was able to get a Moderna booster this month (my last booster was with the flu shot last fall).

To get the booster now you need to be over 65 or have special conditions like immune compromised. Also, you have to be at least 2 months since the last booster. Previous guidance indicated 4 months, so I'm expecting that I'll be able to get the flu/covid combo shots again this coming fall (Oct or later which lines up nicely).

I would keep watching guidelines if you're younger and healthy - the cases are trending up so they may expand who they are vaccinating.

Cost - I have private health insurance so they took my info. I can tell you from my receipt the price is $219 but they said they'd submit to insurance first. I would ask if you have Medicare/caid and see how they process that.

onecaliberal

(34,279 posts)
14. We've had one every 6 months.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 05:59 PM
Jun 12

My husband is a stroke patient. He already caught it once from his dumb fuck MAGAt family.

spooky3

(34,956 posts)
17. I just called another pharmacy a little farther away (in NoVA). They have Pfizer only,
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 06:35 PM
Jun 12

and do not require appointments if you are eligible for a booster. (Only certain Harris Teeter locations have them.)

GB_RN

(2,642 posts)
21. The Good Thing About Pfizer/BioNTech's Vaccine...
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 07:02 PM
Jun 12

Is that the mRNA vaccine allows them to create a new version very quickly and cover newer variants without having to start completely new. Pfizer/BioNtech’s vaccines also work much better against unanticipated variants because of how it’s created.

The flu vaccine on the other hand, is more of the whack-a-mole. Each Spring, the vaccine makers have to try and guess what flu variants will be floating around the next Fall/Winter. Then they literally create the vaccine in chicken eggs. It takes months to develop and get to market. And then, there’s a good chance that the vaccine isn’t a good match for that year’s flu variants. This is why the flu vaccine has much lower efficacy than Pfizer/BioNtech’s mRNA vaccine.

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,374 posts)
22. I plan to get mine this Fall. As I did in April.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 07:19 PM
Jun 12

All I need to do is contact my Internist and he will order it. I do not mess around when it comes to my shots.

I will get the annual Flu and RSV shots as well.

flying_wahini

(7,116 posts)
26. If you are a woman and your Mammo is due - Be sure and have it BEFORE you get vaccinated.
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 11:44 AM
Jun 13

It takes 4-6 weeks to clear your lymphatic system so it’s not showing a false positive.

oldsoftie

(13,095 posts)
28. Unless another Delta rears its head; not for me. I've had my 2/1.
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 12:27 PM
Jun 13

I haven't seen any reason to get a 4th, 5th, 6th etc among any of the groups I'm around. It has mutated itself into a more transmissible but less deadly virus. My wife has had 2 more boosters than me, but still gets Covid & feels like crap a coulpe days; the same way she felt before she ever got them.
Many REPUTABLE doctors have warned against constant boosting of our immune systems. Of course, people with other health issues are a different story too.
But to each their own.

Zeitghost

(4,130 posts)
31. I'm in the same camp
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 12:37 PM
Jun 13

I've had it twice, both times being mild, so I'm at a very low risk of long term or serious complications and I'd rather have my natural immunity stay up to date with the occasional exposure while I'm relatively young and healthy. I've talked to my Doc and she agrees. I look at it a bit like insurance in that I only insure against financial losses I can't afford to take (house/car) and not those I can afford (consumer electronics etc.).

oldsoftie

(13,095 posts)
33. I know 2 people with the bad luck to have LC. Fortunately not more.
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 03:27 PM
Jun 13

Both of them had 1 & 2 more boosters than I had, respectively. It just doesn't seem to make that much of a difference.
One of them has seen good improvement over the past few months & been able to return to work.The other one still hasnt.

I WOULD like to know if anyone is estimating the number of people in the US who now have the antibodies; either from infection or vaccine. After 4 yrs it seems that number should be high. I dont know many who haven't had it; although they MAY have & never knew it.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,659 posts)
30. I live in Metro Vancouver, BC.
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 12:35 PM
Jun 13

I don't know how this system works in other places, but my wife and I get reminders by email to get a booster when it's time. There's never been an issue with getting an appointment, and by far the biggest contributors to wait time on site have been one of us waiting for the other, and the waiting period afterwards that they recommend, in case one of us has a reaction.

There was a bit of a gold rush mentality when the very first vaccine was available, but the wait still wasn't terrible.

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