"We can disagree and still be friends". No. No, we can't.

[babylonsister]

Is lack of punctuation a thing now? While I approve this message, I am too old to omit things I've used all my life, like apostrophes.

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"We can disagree and still be friends". No. No, we can't.
Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 4:30:47p EDT
ultrageek



I just posted this on FB. Im posting it here. Feel free to post it elsewhere. People need to understand what is being asked of them in the name of friendship.

-=-=-=-=-


There seem to be more and more posts about how we can disagree about politics and individual politicians and still be friends.

Or, maybe they take the politics out and say that we SHOULD be able to disagree and still be friends.
And, sure, yeah, we SHOULD. But, no, we can't. Not any more.

Because this isn't a question of whether you prefer chocolate ice cream or vanilla.

This is a question of fundamental civil rights. And can be a question of life and death.

Letz take the abortion just to start, cuz Im sick of making this just about queers. Itz about queers too. Itz about EVERYTHING. But letz just start with abortion.

If this was a "we disagree, but we can be friends" stance, your conservative friend would be saying, "abortion isnt right for me, but, hey, you do what's right for you."

They're not saying that.

They are saying "abortion isnt right for me, therefore, abortion should be illegal for you".

It doesnt matter to them what you think under normal circumstances. It doesnt matter to them what you think under extreme circumstances. It doesnt matter to them what you are going through in REAL LIFE, their hypothetical overrides everything.

They may modify their hypothetical to incorporate particular arguments, like, rape and incest, or to save your life, if they think that will make things more palatable for now.

But it doesnt matter how they modify their hypothetical to win you over. However they modify their stance now can change again tomorrow. Because it isnt real. And while you are trying to pin them down on precisely which rights you are allowed in which circumstances, NONE OF THAT IS THE POINT.

The point is: THEIR HYPOTHETICAL IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR REALITY.

And theres no friendship possible if you have to change the way *YOU* LIVE to suit *THEIR* HYPOTHETICAL.

It's not just abortion. It's every touchpoint in your life. Birth. Death. Marriage. What you wear. What you read. What sports you get to play. Where you get to pee.

And then, whatever they decide is next. Because, it wasn't that long ago that women-of-child-bearing-years were prohibited from working particular jobs, thatz *sure* to come back. There are "child endangerment" issues concerning what you can do while pregnant. Like lifting heavy objects. Women are going to jail/prison for having a miscarriage. This isn't theoretical. This is happening.

And, who knows what comes next? There's always SOMETHING on the horizon. Maybe they'll start hating on Dick van Dyke or Dolly Parton. You cant control what they are going to start saying isnt ok, or is mandatory.

This is just starting. And once it starts, there is no stopping it: *nothing* is out of bounds.

There IS no "You respect me; I respect you" which is what the entire basis of friendship is.

No.

It is "You respect me; I *control* you"

Thatz not friendship. That can be a kinda fun S&M game. But that isnt real life friendship.

No.

Real life friendship is that we are equals here. I may or may not approve of everything that you do, but I support your right to manage your own life how it seems best to you so long as we can agree on certain basics like "dont rob the corner liquor store".

They dont want to agree on anything. They dont want to negotiate anything. And they dont want to *support* you in ANYTHING.

That isnt in their playbook.

Their playbook is “YOU PLAY BY MY RULES”. Or, in plainspeak, "I get to make YOUR life what *I* say is ok."

F*ck that.
F*ck them.
And really, if it comes right down to it, f*ck that friendship.
Because itz not a friendship at all.

Itz a framing issue to guilt you into forfeiting Very Important Rights. Rights which, once gone, will never come back.

[Fullduplexxx]

1. Yeah, i'm gonna have to disagree with you on thatat

I think apostrophes on words like cant and dont should go

[niyad]

12. You do realize that "cant" without the apostrophe is a separate word with

a completely dufferent meaning, yes?

[VMA131Marine]

31. You do realise that in English

There are words which have multiple completely different definitions and the only way you can tell them apart is by context.

Can is such a word
So is there

[Harker]

34. Can there be a can there? n/t

[MadLinguist]

35. Ever so many

Conviction --
Sanction --
Trial --
Yet we somehow manage to communicate and (mostly) share intended meaning with these tricky strings of symbols.

[Harker]

37. Perhaps more importantly...

Can I Can-Can in the can there?

[magicarpet]

54. Enough of your smut there fella,...

Thus is a family blog.

What about the children ?




Smirk,.. Giggle,.. Burp.

[Harker]

55. For the benefit of the children, I will not tell any jokes!

[ancianita]

81. Do you realize you need to respect your home language? the language of science worldwide? Language is thought.

Language is communal, as in sender/audience(s). When you make the audience figure out what you mean even in context, you come off to others as illiterate and lazy when you make up your own rules, not to mention disrespectful of your language, considered the best on the planet.

Rule #1 of communication: It's not the audience's job to figure out what you mean.
Willfully continue to insist on your own punctuation/spelling rules and you'll be communicating with no one but you, and/or you'll land in the "Graz iz purpil" zone.

[Skittles]

85. REALISE is the English spelling

REALIZE is American way

[Mister Ed]

50. Trying to eliminate apostrophes is like playing Whack-A-Mole.

I mean, sure, you can leave them out of contractions, but then they just start popping up elsewhere. Seems as though everywhere you look these day's, apostrophe's are being needlessly inserted into word's to make them plural. Especially in the Tweet's of former president's.

[Fullduplexxx]

57. 😂

[niyad]

76. That also drives me crazy.

[babylonsister]

87. Ha! They're everywhere!

[Mblaze]

59. Cant

Noun - the expression or repetition of conventional or trite opinions or sentiments
especially : the insincere use of pious words.

[Fullduplexxx]

60. Wow bummer ....nt

[Trueblue Texan]

97. I've read this whole section of the thread and I've got one question.

What the hell are y’all smoking?

[niyad]

102. Are you having difficulty following the discussion?

[Trueblue Texan]

103. yes nt

[sop]

2. I had a friend who would say "I'll pray for you" whenever we disagreed on these issues.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Not much of a friend.

[TwilightZone]

13. That's the fundie equivalent of "bless your heart" in the South.

Which, in some contexts, basically means go f*** yourself.

[sop]

19. "I'll pray for you" while you burn at the stake.

[Xavier Breath]

17. That's when you should reply

"And I'll think for you."

[mountain grammy]

24. Perfect. I gonna use that

Thanks

[calimary]

72. LOVE this. What a great response!

[ret5hd]

27. "Yeah...god got with me about that. He said...

you're a dick. We both laughed."

[BlueKota]

36. Reminds me of something Oprah said!

She said when friends, family etc asked her, if she would do what she didn't want to do, she'd tell them she'd have to pray on it. Then shortly after would respond, "under normal circumstances I would, but Jesus told me to say no." 😄

[Goddessartist]

3. Exactly!

This is what I've said to my sisters about our brother who supports Trump.

Thank you! I'll post it on FB as well. Just started back up there after a few years.

[BlueKota]

39. I don't just say it to Republicans

I say it to anyone who spouts,"the both sides," line and also the "we have to respect their opinion," lecturers. As this piece points out, I'll respect their opinion, up until it involves violating other people's civil rights. Then they can shove their opinions where the sun doesn't shine.

Everyone should have the right of self determination, but not dictatorial power over others personal choices.

[Goddessartist]

41. 100%

Agree!

[IbogaProject]

80. Nope

Any GOP minion gets no respect from me unless they admit T45 was a total mistake on their part. Until that happens I'm cool if we don't talk politics but if we do, it's game on. I have a degree in economics, I can call b$ on them w facts. How I go is to differentiate them from the truely obscenely wealthy crowd and how tax cuts for them hurt the economy and anyone who has to work for a living. And then i pivot to hiw Joe is changing history w the two biggest domestic government spending bills ever. He's fixing most every bridge in the USA and tons of other infrastructure. That was the one thing I hoped T45 would do however poorly but that former guy couldn't ever even get to the press conference stage. Joe had decades in the Senate he knew everyone and got them passed by the thinist margins. And I mention they got cut by a spoiled coal heir and a skeevy sellout (Senema), who are symotoms of our broken tax code and unlimited corporate campaign cash. Then I use their xenophobia to get them scared of foreign corporations being able to out spend their whole cohort. I hate MAGA, but the majority of GOP voters are just low information and really believe that false economic story the GOP has sold for a century now. We have to pick off those swing voters. The GOP has a coherent story we have to oppose it directly. Afterall Joe Biden is a moderate, it's just politics have shifted so far right he seema liberal. Joe is a nice guy and maybe he has moved to the left of his Senatorial history.

[Joinfortmill]

4. I'm with you.

[Lonestarblue]

5. If you vote for Trump and Republicans to end democracy, then no you will not be my friend.

If you vote to re-criminalize LGBTQ+, then no you will not be my friend.

If you vote to take away the right to reproductive healthcare for women, then no you will not be my friend.

It you vote to for people who tried to overturn a fair election and the government of the United States, then no you will not be my friend.

If you vote for people who hate minorities and try to hurt them economically, politically, and ohhsically, then no you will not be my friend?

If you vote for fascism, then no you will not be my friend.

[magicarpet]

68. Well,... aren't you just the cantankerous one to deal with.

This one dislikes and abhores the most shinning attributes of the MAGA crowd and their new avant garde lust & fashion for Fascism.

What a cranky one you are.

Here this is for you,...



.. keep it a secret,... lest others should talk and mis-interpret the jesture.

■○■○■○■○■○

Clarification offered should it be required:

In French, avant-garde means the “vanguard” or the “advance guard” — basically the people and ideas that are ahead of their time. Usually it refers to a movement in the arts, like Dadaism, or in politics, like anarchism. Avant-garde can also be used as an adjective to describe something that's cutting-edge.

■○■○■○■○■○

(Out with the old 3rd Reich,.. in with the trDUMP inspired & reborn 4th Reich. Hitler would be so proud that his legacy was ushered into eternity & survived another day. Glory be to Fascism - may the Blessings of God be delivered to the new Orange/Tangerine/Mango Fuhrer.)

[Lonestarblue]

74. I am an old crank 😝, too old to put up with the garbage spouted by the MAGA crowd! LOL

[Hugin]

6. I take this as a sign that some of...

The cult is entering the bargaining stage of assholery.

It’s beginning to dawn on them that hunting bear with a switch and hate usually does not end well. Realizing that the reign of their sugar daddies of the “isms” isn’t much more than a Potemkin house of cards. It’s the cowardly way out, pleading for us to afford them with what we weren’t to be afforded.

They may be seeing that there’s a plan out there competing with project 2025. Which we may as well start calling project get-the-fuck-out-of-my-way that’s far more likely to come to fruition.

We’ll see. And, no, we aren’t friends and we never were.

[Croney]

7. We can disagree and still be family, but we can't be friends.

I have several dear close family members who are trapped in the orange quicksand and all I can do is wave goodbye as they disappear because they refuse to grab my lifeline of reason.

[onecaliberal]

9. They're trying to kill us and make things horrible or impossible for women and minorities.

That is a hard pass. All day, everyday. No. Hell fucking no.

[CaptainTruth]

38. I'm with you on that.

[niyad]

10. Apostrophes, and learning how to spell. . "itz". ."letz". .grrrrr.

No, we cannot "agree to disagree" when what you want me to agree with is your self-proclaimed "right" to deny everyone else's existence.

[PatSeg]

15. Apparently we were typing our comments at the same time

Omitting an occasional apostrophe is one thing, but "itz", "letz", and "thatz" is too much. I really appreciated what the writer had to say, but the spelling and punctuation was a huge distraction.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

75. Perhaps it is deliberate, to entice slower reading and contemplation.

[niyad]

78. All it entices me to do is leave.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

88. Ha! Ur knot won uv thu target's. :D

I am going to hide, now.

[niyad]

91. You can come out now. I put my ruler away!

[PatSeg]

11. I agree with the sentiment of the article

but I agree with you about punctuation. And is using "z" instead of apostrophe "s" commonplace now? Itz, letz, thatz?

It is a well written piece, but the punctuation and grammar are a distraction.

[niyad]

16. As a former editor, all of that jumped out in flashing red neon, a most

annoying distraction.

GMTA!!!

[PatSeg]

18. Yes and if it is excessive,

I stop listening to what they are saying, because I am distracted by how they are saying it. It rather looks like habits picked up from a lot of texting.

[niyad]

22. Yes, I stop listening as well. Texting, or social media, or whatever, is

really making it difficult for some of us. There are times that I puzzle over acronyms, truncated words, and the ubiquitous misuses of "your" and "you're", and "their" and "they're", amoung others.

[PatSeg]

47. I make my share of mistakes,

so I try not to nitpick, but in an age where we have spellcheck, there is no excuse for some errors.

As for acronyms, you can see how I feel about them from my signature line. There are some that are basic and universal such as OMG and WTF, but others look like lazy shorthand where people just don't want to spell out the words. I honestly think that some people make them up as they go, knowing full well that there are people who will have no idea what they're saying.

There are times when abbreviations and shortcuts are understandable, maybe even necessary, but when you're writing on a forum such as DU or Daily Kos, clarity and coherence are important. Also it is rude to turn random phrases into acronyms to save time, even though it could make the reader go to Google to find out what they are saying.

[thesquanderer]

62. He even messed up the title. The period after "friends" belongs inside the quotation mark. n/t

[PatSeg]

65. Oh yes, I missed that one

[Skittles]

84. yes

entirely unnecessary and disgracting

[PatSeg]

90. It is a shame

The writer seems quite articulate, but most of what I remember about what I read was grammar and misspellings.

[Skittles]

92. it is a huge pet peeve of mine

it gets worse and worse

I have seen CAUSE replace BECAUSE even in work emails - WTF

[niyad]

94. Or even "coz"!!!

[Skittles]

98. don't get me started on WELP

or PROLLY

[niyad]

100. Agreed. However, "welp" is actually the correct word in some instances, none

of which are the situations to which you are referring.

[Skittles]

101. from google

The usage of "welp" as an alternative to "well" emerged as internet slang in the early 2000s. It is often used to convey resignation, disappointment, or a casual response to a situation.

[PatSeg]

95. That is unnerving

Both my grown children are sticklers for proper grammar because I constantly drummed it into them over the years. Now they are both excellent writers. I think they write wondering how Mom would grade them!

[Skittles]

99. I admit my dad quite the fanatic too

my mum was English so there were some differences there

[unblock]

14. In short: "why should I respect you if you won't respect me"

[Hotler]

20. Hard to make nice with people that say "the only good democrat and liberal is a dead democrat and liberal".

Arm yourselves. They'll come for us.

[gay texan]

79. Already have n/t

[NewHendoLib]

21. No - it becomes about values and deep belief in lies - so I cannot be friends with repubs. No way.

[chouchou]

23. It's that power bullshit.

Plus, I know what's much better than what you think about anything in this reality. Ram it up your ass, Republican.

[DownriverDem]

25. Beyond that

When I see those on the left talking about being friends with those on the right I cringe. We are way beyond being nicey, nicey. Their views and who they vote for will destroy our country.

[magicarpet]

69. Have you ever heard Kumbaya? We could all sit in a circle on the floor and hum a few bars.

Should we include or exclude the most Fascist of Republicans.

You know too, "Don't Worry,... Be Happy" is a very comforting and delightful tune.
Would anyone happen to have a copy of the 8 track tape or DVD ?

[CrispyQ]

26. I friended some high school pals on FB a few years ago after a reunion. I've unfriended most of them since.

One accused me of posting fake news & when I proved it wasn't fake, she wrote, "Can't we just agree to disagree?" I wrote, "Sure, but that's not what happened here." She refused to see the difference between agreeing to disagree & accusing me of posting fake news, so bye, bye.

[Freddie]

30. I was friended by my HS boyfriend

We parted on good terms so, sure. Quickly found out he was a Tea Party Patriot. Once he posted a pic of Joe and Kamala with the infamous 1963 Lincoln convertible with the caption, “wouldn’t those two look nice riding in this car.” (FB said that “did not violate community standards”!!). And to think I was devastated when he dumped me all those years ago.

[PatSeg]

49. How depressing!

At least you're fortunate that he dumped you.

I had a similar reaction to some really ugly memes that my former brother-in-law posted about Barack and Michele Obama. I unfriended him. I remember when he was a huge supporter of JFK back in the day.

[PatSeg]

48. Yeah I know what you mean

Now I am very hesitant to accept friend requests from old friends and relatives. I've had too many unpleasant surprises. If I'm seriously thinking about accepting them, I will check their Facebook page to be sure there's nothing extreme right-wing or Trumpish.

[OldBaldy1701E]

28. OMGs I was just having this 'discussion' with my 'landlord'!

He always wants to turn up the thermostat when he gets cold or warm. (It appears that his 'comfort zone' is 5 degrees F since he wants the heat set at 70 and the A/C set at 75, but I digress...)

Basically, I told him that it was very telling that he always expected the whole world to change to suit him rather than just taking a few simple steps to address the situation, which in effect means you are changing to suit the whole world. Now, obviously I am not talking about conforming in any way (shudder), but it is far easier (and cheaper!!!!) to stop running five fans that compete with each other, thus creating a vacuum in that part of the house, while not keeping the storm windows tightly locked in place (the sun hits that side of the house in the afternoon, so its either understand physics or sweat), to open your freaking doors so that the A/C can circulate properly, and to realize that a little desk fan can do wonders for where you are sitting at the moment.

The arrogance of someone who really thinks the world is just some adjustable game setting is astounding and yet it is getting more and more prevalent and dangerous. "My ignorance is just as acceptable as your facts." (Asimov) shows that this was a foreseeable future.

Yet, here we are.

In summary... I second...

F*ck Them, and their denial of reality just for comfort and prestige.

[aggiesal]

29. I'm no fan of Barry Goldwater, but I agree with this statement and it applies to this post ...

[Harker]

56. Nor am I.

Still, it's interesting to see him creeping steadily leftward by comparison to his descendants.

[SweetT]

32. One is friends

with humans and animals that share our values, behaviors and feelings, normally. By denying women rights you cannot claim you support women's struggles, except in a very obtuse way, namely by causing the problem we face. It is a simple thing really. LGBTQ+ politics has shown us that allies are essential and also that an ally shares many of the same qualities of the friend. A friend who denies my dignity and respect is NOT a friend. I cannot claim to be your friend while I work against you, believe contrary to you and deny your rights.

I have a friend who went to pick up a friend with car trouble. He had to pick him up at a bar nearby and so , he drove to a nearby parking lot and called his friend to walk over to the lot. My friend's sister heard the story 3rd hand and turned her brother in to his probation officer (property crime when he was years younger and dumber) for violating his parole. He DID NOT enter the bar and it was his friend's testimony to the PO that kept my friend out of jail. When confronted about the "snitching", the sister is claimed to have said that "he had it coming for breaking the law"... He decided he did not need such a sister and he has not spoken with her in some time. She laments how "mean" he is being. He says, "you don't put your family and friends in jeopardy." I say he is correct.

[SWBTATTReg]

52. I would say Wow, such a sister. And you're right, you don't put your friends and family in such unnecessary peril,

when he still didn't go into the establishment (the Bar). God, what a mean and awful sister.

[TBF]

33. I have a high school reunion this year & not going -

I don't mind staying "friends" with many of them on FB (although I've had to block the ones who go on about dear Leader or have gun fettishes) ... but it's a rural area and I don't trust we'll get through an evening without someone going off on politics.

[FakeNoose]

43. That's the reason I quit Facebook after January 6th

I was shocked at how many of my former classmates - we're all Baby Boomers and Class of 1969 - supported Chump. It was depressing and I decided I didn't want to know. They were posting MAGA shit on my Facebook page, and I was sick of it. This is why we can't have nice things anymore.

[TBF]

46. I'm early Gen X -

I was in high school & college during the 80s. There are a few other liberals in my graduating class, but I can count them on one hand. I have aunts and uncles your age and a lot of them are MAGA now. I remember when they were teens in the 70s and they certainly weren't so conservative in those days! Smh.

[Paladin]

40. No. No we can't.

I have broken off my association with, and my affection for, all those individuals who used to be friends but who still support trump. Relatives included. The only thing that keeps me awake at night is thinking about the actual warfare that I believe is fixing to break out in this country. I'm not afraid---just angry.

[617Blue]

45. Me too, including my idiot brother who went down the hole.

Started blaming his career problems on "woke".

[FakeNoose]

42. They think they are guided by their "religion"

... which I don't even believe in. But they don't care, I still have to follow their "rules" anyway.
And if I don't, I go to prison. That's how fascism works.

[Skittles]

86. their "religion" is very selective

for example, most anti-choice folk seem to LOVES THEM SOME GUNS

[617Blue]

44. There is no equivalency. nt

[bluesbassman]

51. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just not their own set of facts.

I have nothing against people of faith using their scriptures to guide their lives. More power to ‘em as the saying goes. That’s exactly where it stops though. As much as I respect and defend your right to have an opinion or belief based on unscientifically verifiable writings in books that have been transcribed and interpreted dozens and dozens of times after being first recorded from word of mouth recollections, the plain fact is such a state of affairs is no way to enact policy for the governance of a great group of people that includes those who choose to follow faith teachings and those who do not.

Used to be that the people of faith largely stayed in their lane. I’m not implying that all people of faith are bigots, homophobes, racists, misogynists, fascists, and anti-democratic, but what has become more prevalent is this attitude on the right that their side is the final arbiter of right and wrong, good and bad, just and unjust. You know who else thinks like that? Evangelical Christians. It's hardwired in the sermons they hear and what they’re taught. Their God is the Allmighty and they are doing His work, so how could THEY possibly be wrong about anything.

No, you can’t agree to disagree with such people, because they won’t even “agree” with you on anything in the first place

[hadEnuf]

53. Yeah, I find it a bit hard to be friends with people who would like to shoot me in the street

or put me into a prison camp.

Nazis generally don't make good friends unless it's another Nazi. Even then, they will turn on their "friends" in a second.

I guess I'm just kinda different that way....

[Old Okie]

58. Comments

This article and the thoughtful comments on its content was a lot easier to read on Daily Kos due to the lack of multiple comments on spelling and punctuation that appeared to hijack the discussion. Is it possible to collapse this responses to a response so one does not have to look at them, as is done on YouTube or Reddit. Having to scroll through a page of comments to see some thoughtful responses like #5 seems unnecessary.

[niyad]

93. Goddess forfend that people comment on things that are important to them,

even if not important to you.This is a discussion board, which means we can discuss things that are of interest to us, including whether a person's style of writing, poor grammar, spelling, and punctuation affects the message.

You are, of course, free to express your displeasure with whatever comments you choose, or just skip them.

[hay rick]

61. If you support Trump, you don't want me to be your friend.

First off, it wouldn't really be friendship, it would just be me being nice to you but believing you're stupid or you're an asshole.

For the record, I am not someone who thinks a lot of people are stupid. I think a lot of people are morally or psychologically damaged.

[orleans]

67. omg! love your first line:

"First off, it wouldn't really be friendship, it would just be me being nice to you but believing you're stupid or you're an asshole."

me too. and i admit i would lean toward "you're an asshole" rather than giving them the benefit of the doubt and thinking they're just stupid.

i don't have friends who aren't dems/liberals. i dumped all those other assholes in 2016 (but truth be told: i didn't know that many trumpers... on purpose!)

[Liberal In Texas]

63. Good rant.

I'm in the apostrophes are part of the language for a reason.

[Wounded Bear]

64. We probably could...but "they" definitely can't...

[Model35mech]

66. Well, they see the word "abortion" as a euphemism for the "m" word

"m" is a behavior of humans that is criminal everywhere I have taken time to look. The "they" are leveraging that to take advantage of what they see as nearly global support for their sentiment. Of course not every nation that recognizes "m" calls abortion and/or contraception "M"

It's going to get worse as "they" control many legislatures willing to pass "Personhood" from conception and they've gained significant influence on the Judiciary.

As the states start adding into a significantly long list there will be greater and greater efforts to pass federal laws on personhood.

[magicarpet]

70. Once they get their foot in the door and sieze the territory,..

.... it is nearly impossible to get that territory back away from them short of total annihilation.

They do not give up captured ground gracefully. A battle royal with these Fascist extremists and religious zealots may well be in our not too distant future. Compromise with these people is not going to be part of the equation as we seek closure to this societal mess instigated by the likes of the Orange Menace.

[allegorical oracle]

71. Never been able to thread the logic of "agree to disagree." Both options seem absolute.

[Silent3]

73. Totally glossing over the important point (which I agree with), and being a language snob instead...

...what's with, not just dropping the apostrophes, but substituting "z" for "s"?

In places it doesn't even make phonetic sense!

I can sort of see "boyz" instead of "boys", but "thatz" instead of "that's"? It's an S sound, for godz sake!

[brush]

77. Being friends with magats, not a chance. With just plain republicans either for that matter.

Never-trumpers get the side-eye too.

There's no compromising on that.

[oldsoftie]

82. Where I live, if I live by that rule I'll be a very lonely person.

Certainly SOME have been discarded, but they've been discarding most of EVERYTHING normal.
Yes, there are some folks who think like I do, but my wife wouldnt like me hanging out with single women. And some others are SO political they're just no fun to be around.

[Evolve Dammit]

83. No we can't. Righteous

[58Sunliner]

89. My ex has family that vote for DT.

I think they are nice Nazis. Nazis all the same.

[Trueblue Texan]

96. It's like a friend telling you,...

…I’m going to burn down your house, but we can still be friends, can’t we? Uh, no…No, we can’t.