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It took 12 years for a court to order Alex (Original Post) MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 OP
Justice hasn't even sped up in the digital age. bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #1
Once you understand that the goal of the law industry in the United States is to dobleremolque Jun 2024 #2
I get all that. MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2024 #6
It did not take 12 years Ohio Joe Jun 2024 #4
I was referring to the 12 years from the time MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #8
Sometimes Justice must be asked for in order for it to be administered Mr.WeRP Jun 2024 #11
That's just what I was going to say! ShazzieB Jun 2024 #13
Okay, I'll go. I get all that but, 6 fuckin' years? jaxexpat Jun 2024 #20
October 2022: Connecticut jury awards $965 million in compensatory damages. OverBurn Jun 2024 #5
The wheels of justice often turn slowly but they grind exceedingly fine. TomSlick Jun 2024 #7
I saw a clip of him literally senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #9
No, it didn't. TwilightZone Jun 2024 #10
OK then 6 years? You and I would have been tried and decision rendered in less than 2? Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #12
6 years is about right. ShazzieB Jun 2024 #14
Thanks. Seems like a long time for those families Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #18
Are you an attorney? Have you ever tried a case like this one? onenote Jun 2024 #19
There was a hilarious discussion on local radio some years ago malaise Jun 2024 #15
We have also been thoroughly ruined by MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #16
Scalia, Thomas, Alito malaise Jun 2024 #17
No shit DENVERPOPS Jun 2024 #22
Our 2 tier justice system, if, you have the wealth to play the system. republianmushroom Jun 2024 #21
I just did a run thru of "Star Trek: Discovery" slightlv Jun 2024 #23

bucolic_frolic

(46,512 posts)
1. Justice hasn't even sped up in the digital age.
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 05:11 PM
Jun 2024

A disgrace. All that technology, all the databases, government/legal websites, and the snail's pace reigns.

dobleremolque

(889 posts)
2. Once you understand that the goal of the law industry in the United States is to
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 05:54 PM
Jun 2024

administer the statutes and rules of procedure without error or gaffe that could lead to reversal on appeal, you won't be surprised. Very occasionally, the U.S. system results in "justice", but that isn't the day-to-day goal most of its practitioners.

Response to MOMFUDSKI (Reply #3)

ShazzieB

(18,404 posts)
13. That's just what I was going to say!
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 08:02 PM
Jun 2024

Where did 12 years come from? The shooting wasn't even 12 whole years ago; it will be 12 years this coming December.

Jones started with the lies on his broadcast in April 2013 (just over 11 years ago), and the first parents filed suit in April 2018 (6 years ago). He was found liable for defamation in September 2021, and the amount of the damages was determined by a Texas jury in Auust 2022.

The whole timeline is here: https://www.reuters.com/legal/legal-fallout-alex-jones-false-sandy-hook-claims-2022-09-13/

jaxexpat

(7,621 posts)
20. Okay, I'll go. I get all that but, 6 fuckin' years?
Sat Jun 15, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jun 2024

Yer welcome. Have the plaintiff's been paid yet?

TomSlick

(11,731 posts)
7. The wheels of justice often turn slowly but they grind exceedingly fine.
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 07:07 PM
Jun 2024

Alex will be left without a pot or a window.

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
9. I saw a clip of him literally
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 07:18 PM
Jun 2024

crying today on MSNBC. I mean wailing like a three year old with snot running out of his nose. I thought these freaks were supposed to at least pretend to be macho.

TwilightZone

(27,955 posts)
10. No, it didn't.
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 07:22 PM
Jun 2024

No one even tried to hold him liable until 2018, when the suit was filed.

I get the point you're trying to make, but it did not take "a court" 12 years to find him liable and order him to liquidate assets. Your assertion is simply false.

ShazzieB

(18,404 posts)
14. 6 years is about right.
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 08:08 PM
Jun 2024

Suit was filed in April 2018, he was found liable for defamation in September 2021, and the amount of the damages was determined by a Texas jury in August 2022. Since then, there's been wrangling about how he's going to pay up.

So it's been a little over 6 years from the lawsuit being filed until now.. That's not bad at all for a major lawsuit involving that kind of money,

The whole timeline is here: https://www.reuters.com/legal/legal-fallout-alex-jones-false-sandy-hook-claims-2022-09-13/

malaise

(277,353 posts)
15. There was a hilarious discussion on local radio some years ago
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 08:16 PM
Jun 2024

as a man argued with the popular host about the length of time a case was taking. He was adamant and reminded her that they solve everything in an hour on Law and Order.

I am just glad that Pillow Guy will be penniless/

We have been thoroughly ruined on matters justice by TV programms. Perry Mason also solved cases quickly

DENVERPOPS

(9,850 posts)
22. No shit
Sat Jun 15, 2024, 01:57 PM
Jun 2024

How DARE they be allowed to even be called: "Justices".............can they even be held accountable by ANY branch of the Government for their corrupt and criminal deeds?????????? The Republicans certainly used their corrupt appointments to pad the opinions of the USSC. The USSC corruptly and un-constituionally appointed Bush in 2000, failed to question the corruption in the voting machines in 2004, and here we are today..........
If you think this Republican controlled group of "justices" has made some horrific calls so far, just wait for the decisions in the next few months about some extremely important matters. If Trump gets in, as far as their rulings then, it will be:
KATIE BAR THE DOOR.............

They have been working at this overall current situation since 1980 when HW and Cheney committed treason to rig the voting for Reagan and against Carter. It came to a head in the 2016 election. They did the same thing with Comey? another of their infamous "October Surprises" to go after Hillary two weeks before the election.......

They demonstrated what lengths they will go to, to try and overthrow (corruptly and un-constitutionally) our Democracy.
And they damn near pulled it off on J6th..........Thx to Pelosi who blocked Alito from pulling an "end run" and Pence finally seeing they were directing the crowd to kill him if necessary, he insisted on declaring a Democrat victory that night......

This "New" Republican Party of the top Uber Rich 1%, are pulling all stops this time around, and to top it off, they have the Republican corrupted Supreme Court in their basket of goodies "Standing Back and Standing BY, to put the final nail in the coffin if needed, much the same as in 2000.........

I don't know if anyone else is frightened to even think about the night of November 5th, and even more so about November 6th, but I am far more than concerned. I think we will witness something far worse than this Nation and Democracy has ever experienced in the entire history of this nation......



slightlv

(4,196 posts)
23. I just did a run thru of "Star Trek: Discovery"
Sat Jun 15, 2024, 03:11 PM
Jun 2024

again. One line stood out to me... I'm probably paraphrasing here but it was something to the point of -- the Law without taking into account context (circumstances) does NOT lead to Justice.

I wonder... have we *ever* had a judicial/law system that took into account the reasons behind a crime... both good and bad... and ruled in accordance to the context, not just to the letter of the "law"? The closest I can think of is when juries decided NOT to punish pot users. I remember even around here in KS, some courts going crazy because the juries were taking it upon themselves to decide whether a broken "law" should be punished or not. Of course, this can backfire against the good, as we well know. But when juries start taking exception to the law and, in effect, nullify it by refusing to send "lawbreakers" to prison, and the concept goes as far as into our modern-day mythologies. Man, something is definitely upside-down!

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