My bet is that Trump will have a "hidden" earpiece in the debate...

[kentuck]

His handlers know that he is incapable of functioning in a high-level debate and will have to find some way to "assist" him in his responses, in my opinion.

But, that would be cheating, you say.

It would be easy to hide a small receiver with today's technology, and not necessarily in the ear .

Just a hunch.

That is one of the big scandals of this campaign. The entire Republican Party knows he is too incapable and incompetent to be the President but they will find a way to cover for him until the election is over, in my opinion.

[Meadowoak]

1. My bet, he's a no-show.

[kentuck]

21. You may be right.

He will say that it is being handled by the fake news and it just isn't fair to him. He doesn't want to expose himself anymore than he already has.

[republianmushroom]

25. Agree

[birdographer]

43. I've been saying this from the start

Even have a few bets going on it...

[LiberalLovinLug]

65. He's a no show IF he doesn't have this earpiece plan ready to go

It would be hillariouis if he DID have this plan, and Democratic loyal technicians, in anticipation, were able to jam the signal. He'd even look more flustered and lost than if he'd come in without one. And then devolve into his insane ramblings for all to see. Please let this happen

[Walleye]

89. Or it won't be loud enough for him, and he will rant and rave at the technician and threaten not to pay him

[Arne]

2. Thoroughly frisk him on stage at the podium.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. My thought as well. Has anyone given thought to when Trump derails?

It's coming.

[Arne]

13. He had a shaky podium that almost toppled him in Minnesota.

And of course those slippery ramps.

[bucolic_frolic]

18. Not exactly the type of derail I had in mind, but I'll take it! /nt

[Marcuse]

60. Check him for weapons too.

[Arne]

62. At our court house they took away my pocket knife.

I said wait, and showed them it was actually a Thumb Drive.

[Tribetime]

77. I feel sorry for the guy who has to frisk his diaper

[PatSeg]

3. Brings back memories of Bush debating Kerry

Many people were sure that he had a listening device to help him with the answers. There was something bulging on his back that looked suspicious.

[MadameButterfly]

23. and medical professionals said

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the way he was blinking indicated listening. I can't corroborate truth of that these years later, just know it was in the discussion then

[PatSeg]

31. It isn't fresh on my mind now,

but I do recall it being discussed a lot at the time. There was one point where it appeared Bush was talking to someone who was feeding him answers.


Edit to add link to article about that debate:

https://www.theregister.com/2004/10/12/bush_wireless_coaching/

[Kid Berwyn]

58. "Let me finish!"

Smirko McCokespoon to no one, as no one was speaking,
other than Smirko McCokespoon and, evidently, the voice in his ear.

[PatSeg]

87. Yes, apparently there were a couple of moments like that

His behavior came across as extremely odd at the time.

In the first debate, during a reply to Kerry, he ranted, "Let me finish!" Oddly, neither his opponent, Senator Kerry, nor the moderator, Jim Lehrer, was attempting to cut him off, and he had plenty of time left on the clock. One explanation is that he was disoriented and confused, as he often is without a script. But a somewhat better explanation, in view of the pictures and his sudden debating competence, is that he was addressing not his opponent or the moderator, but a remote coach who had prompted him to move on to a fresh topic before he was ready to do so.

At one point, when Bush had taken a question, and Kerry had delivered a spirited rebuttal, moderator Charlie Gibson decided to extend the session. But he had trouble getting the words out, as Bush leapt up and leaned into his face, repeatedly demanding the very extension that Gibson was attempting, without success, to offer him.

A fair reading of the scene would have Bush's remote coach urging him to respond at that moment, with enough vehemence to distract the President from what was happening right before his eyes. "You've got to respond to that - you can't let it go. He's insulting our allies," we can imagine the coach saying. And we can imagine Bush getting flustered to the point that he failed to grasp what the moderator was trying to tell him.

https://www.theregister.com/2004/10/12/bush_wireless_coaching/

Trump has been so painfully awful, that it is easy to forget what a real dope GW was. Bush was stunningly incompetent and unsuited for the job. Bush's entire administration was about deceiving the American people by exploiting the threat of terrorism to further their agenda. I remember whenever there was some criticism of the administration, all of a sudden the threat level went up from yellow to orange or some old video tape of Bin Laden would magically appear. The deceit was so obvious and predictable. A truly contemptable lot. Who knew at the time that it could get much, much worse?

[John1956PA]

73. Also, he shouted, "Let me finish!" to no observable person.

The next day, I listened to a portion of Hannity's radio show. I believe he knew about the ear piece. He could not resist playing us Dems for fools by declaring that 43 needed a haircut. I believe that 43 let his hair grow out prior to the debate in order to conceal the earpiece wire.

[PatSeg]

88. Oh, I hadn't thought about his hair

That makes sense.

I wrote more in comment #87 above about the possibility that he was wearing an earpiece in two debates.

[Hugin]

4. I'm putting my two dollar bet on the convict showing his contempt for debates...

By sleep-farting through it.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. I expect the same meandering Trump but with themes, and a grand jugular move.

This is about dominance for two men who don't like one another. Joe will take the logical high road. We know Trump won't.

[brooklynite]

7. No, he won't for the reasons I outlined in the LAST thread that suggested this.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19036703

[niyad]

28. Thank you. I completely missed that entire thread!

[Think. Again.]

29. Yes, he will.

[Bucky]

80. Well argued

I can't believe people are coming up with "reasons Trump won't fight". Trump is all fight and zero reasoning.

[Think. Again.]

81. I try to avoid arguments.

[agingdem]

30. you're right..

Trump only trusts the vomit in his head...

[rubbersole]

44. A very large brrrain...

[Random Boomer]

64. Nailed it

My immediate thought was that he simply can't handle multiple sensory inputs. Just one is enough to confuse him. And his narcissism wouldn't accept the need for coaching.

[NBachers]

8. Hack the frequency and feed him even more insane shit.

[Arne]

14. You Win.

[Uncle Joe]

59. Keep repeating to him over and over "flap your arms and cluck like a chicken."

I'm not sure if his cult followers would even pick up on it though if he were to do so?

[elias7]

90. My thought exactly

[no_hypocrisy]

9. Debate team will jam any frequency.

They’re not stupid like TSF thinks they are.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. I bet they are not stupid but does anyone have information beyond speculation? . . . nt

[Bucky]

82. Of course not. We don't live in a world where people need facts before drawing conclusions

... I miss those days.

[Ocelot II]

10. I doubt it, for the simple reason that even his handlers know

that he wouldn't be able to respond coherently to the instructions or information they fed him. He can barely read from a teleprompter right in front of him. Anyhow, he thinks he's smarter than everybody else so he'd refuse to accept any such arrangement; in the pot of cold oatmeal that passes for his brain he doesn't need anybody's help.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

53. And...Biden will still be able to provoke him...

Lead him away from his coaches like an angry bull.

[KPN]

11. Nah, he wouldn't listen to it. Even if he did, what he really needs is a hidden mouthpiece.

[MiHale]

12. He'll hide the device in his diaper...we'll find out when...

He opens his mouth and only gas hot gas and sh!t comes out.

[Tickle]

15. George Bush did that

or so I remember hearing. They can mute tRump so I'm not worried

[niyad]

33. There was that questionable box-like bulge on his back that no wrinkle in a

suit jacket would account for.

[kentuck]

16. They would not feed him full sentences...

Only words for him to rif with and only on certain questions. Just enough to keep him from brain-locking.

[WheelWalker]

17. An earpiece in the hairpiece?

[QED]

20. I like that the debate will have a mute button.

Mics will only be live during one of the candidate's turn to speak.

Joe won't need to deliver his best line: "Will you just shut up, Man?"

[nikatnyte]

56. Joe still might need to tell him to shut up

Just because TFG's mic is turned off doesn't he won't be screaming like a spoiled child.

[MOMFUDSKI]

22. Dubya had the square doohickey under the

upper back of his jacket. Clown? In the diaper! Cheaters all

[Ocelot II]

71. It never was determined what that was, but a difference between W and Trump

is that W, though not the sharpest knife in the drawer, was less stupid, less crazy, and more self-aware. He knew Kerry was far more knowledgeable about most everything, and since he wasn't a delusional narcissist like Trump who thought he was smarter than anybody else, that he'd need help with debate questions. And he would have accepted it, since he wasn't above dirty tricks. The allegation that he was wired has been mostly debunked, or at least never proven, and IIRC he didn't seem much improved anyhow. But unlike W, Trump would never acknowledge that he needed debate answers or talking points fed to him through an earpiece, and would shoot down the idea if anybody brought it up.

[sop]

24. Trump will bullshit his way through the entire debate.

His time will be spent repeating the same demented nonsense MAGA crowds always cheer at Bund rallies. Following the spectacle, corporate media hacks will tie themselves in knots making sense of his insane stupidities, then try to make the whole thing seem normal.

[LuvLoogie]

26. Joe could have the secret service run a frequency scan and broadcast

"you're a fucking idiot" over and over. Or just jam any rouge frequency.

[Think. Again.]

32. I hope they actually do take that precaution.

[Talitha]

41. Keep saying "you're a fucking idiot" over and over - he'll think Pooty is talking to him.

[Towlie]

27. Surreptitiously repeating what you hear is probably much more difficult than reading out loud.

If Trump were to get spoken advice then it would probably be hard for him to conceal that, so I don't think it'll happen. What I think is that instead of addressing the subject he'll simply try to change it to what he wants to talk about.

[Think. Again.]

34. They'll rehearse it.

[ZonkerHarris]

35. It would go like this:

Guy in the earpiece: "Repeat after me Donald..."

Trump: 'Repeat after me Donald...."

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

50. I can see that happening and

it would be hilariously funny!

[birdographer]

45. I was thinking this, too

It's not that easy to remember words spoken in your ear with no lips to read. He would end up bungling it and sounding his usual blithering idiot. "Did he say election or selection? Did he say inflation or conflation? Did he say I do want that or I do not want that?" What did he say about the podium? I missed that last bit, I was sleeping."

[ThoughtCriminal]

36. It won't help much since his advisors are also imbeciles

Any approximation of "voices of reason" were purged a long time ago.

[bluestarone]

37. Joe Biden should DEMAND that

BOTH of them debate UNDER OATH!!

[onenote]

66. Under oath? It's not a court of law. Who would enforce such a thing?

[bluestarone]

69. Maybe just to highlight TFG LIES all the time?

Just being sarcastic, BUT would bring to point that tTFG LIES all the time?

[Bristlecone]

38. It wouldn't matter. He doesn't listen to goddamn thing.

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[twodogsbarking]

39. He should be in a cage.

[keithbvadu2]

40. Trump is looking for excuses to bail. I think he may suddenly call in sick with a horrible, temporary illness.

Trump is looking for excuses to bail.

I think he may suddenly call in sick with a horrible, temporary illness.

[Talitha]

42. Is it too late to request Judge Merchan as another Moderator?

[Bettie]

46. Even with an earpiece

he never listens to anyone but himself, so....how much will that help him really?

[AnotherMother4Peace]

47. I use bone conduction headphones when I swim: Just 2 little speakers that hook onto my goggles strap.

They can be tucked under my cap. They play from memory or bluetooth. I'm sure one could be hidden under that thing he wears on his head.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

48. Doesn't need one. He hears voices all the time.

Mainly from the devil himself.......

[LudwigPastorius]

49. Why would the "MIT connected" man with a "very good brain" need help answering questions?

Trump would never do it, as that would be an admission that he isn't the smartest man in the building.

He may not even do any prep work at all for the debate, supremely confident in his ability to spew bullshit.

[KS Toronado]

51. TSF's standard answer to every question...."Can I phone a friend"?

[Martin68]

52. I doubt Trump would function a whole lot better with an earpiece. He'd have to pay attention and he'd have

to understand the advice, neither of which her is very good at doing even when he's not on a debate stage. It might actually confuse him.

[oldsoftie]

54. Thats exactly what they accused both Hillary & Biden of having.

I'm pretty sure SOMEONE would be able to tell if anyone has electronic help; and if you've ever tried talking while having an earpiece I cant see Trump being able to pull it off. He'd likely be halting & look like an even bigger idiot.

[Siwsan]

55. Since the debate is at 9pm, if he is 'sun downing' it will be on full display

I'm sure President Biden's debate prep team is preparing responses for every possible excuse and/or outrageous behavior.

[lame54]

57. Hack his frequency...

If that's a thing

[Sneederbunk]

61. When was the last time TSF took questions from the press?

[Mike Nelson]

63. You may be right...

... but even with a "red alert SHUT UP now!" code word, Trump does not have the discipline to use one effectively.

[Patton French]

67. It wouldn't matter.

He’s incoherent as it is. Imagine him trying to talk with someone speaking into his ear. President Biden will mop the floor with him (if he shows up).

[Xavier Breath]

68. His handlers could be reciting the Declaration of Independence into his ear

and that fucking moron would still be rambling on about how he admires Dracula and the inherent evils of mustard potato salad

[CanonRay]

70. Could we plant someone in the audience with a jammer?

[Buns_of_Fire]

72. One word: Suppository. A BIG suppository.

If he can fit a UV light and Mike Johnson up there, a 80-watt speaker with a wifi connection should be no problem.

[DemocraticPatriot]

74. I don't think that Trump is cognitively competent enough, to repeat

whatever any earpiece may tell him to say, in the middle of his first debate in four years....

If they do that, I think it is more likely to confuse him.

[ProfessorGAC]

75. What Good Will That Do?

He doesn't listen to anybody, so why would he listen to a voice in his ear?
Second, it's a lot harder to talk while hearing a added info in one's ear. I'd think he'd get very scattered if he's saying one thing while someone is telling him what to say next.
Professional newscasters sometimes have a problem doing it, and they do it every day.
I'm saying the chance of it happening are near zero.

[Ocelot II]

76. This kind of speculation is silly and I wish it would just stop.

[Cathy Bayer]

78. hidden earpieces

It always seemed to me that GWB used one of those for every public appearance as he was incapable of coming up with intelligent thoughts or scripts or responses... so... you are probably right... ugh

[WarGamer]

79. Maybe a robotic clone of Trump that can actually speak and looks 20 years younger?

A good clone robot... like the ones in Westworld. Did you see that series on HBO?

I totally think it can be done.

[Lettuce Be]

83. How would that be helpful? He does not listen to others.

I can't see this being an issue, and even if they tried, it wouldn't work because he'd ignore whatever advice he was getting.

[librechik]

84. They will both have earpieces. That's how audio is done on live TV. n/t

[Turbineguy]

85. The signal could be jammed or at least detected.

[brewens]

86. Let him. There's no way he can pull that off. He'll look like he's listening really hard for several seconds after

the question, then fuck up repeating what he's just been told. It will stand out like a turd in a punchbowl! LOL