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kentuck

(112,539 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 12:59 PM Jun 2024

This is not a conspiracy theory.

But the question I have: Is the Trump Campaign still paying for favorable polls?

As I recall, during the last campaign, Trump was even paying for online polls. Anything that showed him ahead or favored was worthy of his attention. Although online polls are probably the most untrustworthy of all polls, he still wanted it to show that he was winning.

Is the campaign still manipulating any of these polls? Would any legitimate pollsters take money from Trump to show that he was tied or ahead of Joe Biden? Perhaps none of them would take money from a campaign, but with Trump, it is worthy of attention, in my opinion.

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This is not a conspiracy theory. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2024 OP
The whole trump campaign is a staged production. pwb Jun 2024 #1
And aren't they PAYING a band of paid followers to show up behind his staged appearances? usaf-vet Jun 2024 #6
You mean like the church in Detroit that TSF attended. gab13by13 Jun 2024 #7
Some day it will come to pass that all pastors are revealed to be mere mortal vessels, just like everyone else. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #11
EXACTLY. I saw that post. And It prompted me to post the question. usaf-vet Jun 2024 #12
Don't know but I got a cell phone poll from Trump yesterday. My unlisted # bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #2
Well, your reponse won't be recorded. erronis Jun 2024 #17
The poll rigging I heard about from the recent trial was for "NY's most popular businessman" or some such nonsense AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #3
The RW radio hosts are pushing polls that say Trump is up by 12% w/ Hispanics Jacson6 Jun 2024 #4
Many pollsters accept commissions for polls from both parties Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #5
Even if it is just some consumer 'product' poll, I first ask 'who is paying for this poll?' Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #15
Of course he is. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #8
And they're not alone. ananda Jun 2024 #9
This news was from the trial. BadgerMom Jun 2024 #10
But it was an old story anyway, and nothing consequential. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2024 #14
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2024 #13
re: "Is the campaign still manipulating any of these polls?" thesquanderer Jun 2024 #16

pwb

(12,156 posts)
1. The whole trump campaign is a staged production.
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jun 2024

He could say shit smells good and his paid clappers would applaud.

usaf-vet

(6,783 posts)
6. And aren't they PAYING a band of paid followers to show up behind his staged appearances?
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:56 PM
Jun 2024

Rumors and now some proven evidence seem to confirm this might be true.

Anyone?

gab13by13

(24,588 posts)
7. You mean like the church in Detroit that TSF attended.
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 02:03 PM
Jun 2024

to address the needs of black people? The pews were full of white people.

Shame on that pastor to give TSF that photo-op.

jaxexpat

(7,621 posts)
11. Some day it will come to pass that all pastors are revealed to be mere mortal vessels, just like everyone else.
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 03:22 PM
Jun 2024

It would be nice to hear that the church in question uses funds provided by Trump's misuse of their building to benefit a worthy cause. Of course, that wish is predicated on the fantasy that Trump's check would actually clear the bank. But the best irony would be that the worthy cause would be one which benefits some entity that he hates.

usaf-vet

(6,783 posts)
12. EXACTLY. I saw that post. And It prompted me to post the question.
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 03:26 PM
Jun 2024

Ok, let's talk about other Trump-driven schemes to help him steal an election.

For a couple of years now, I have been using the USPS service to receive notifications of incoming mail and packages.
It has been a great service so that we can be on the watch for important mailings.

The feature has been changed to a new display recently (in the last couple of weeks). The screen is more cluttered and less informative.
Adding CONFUSSION.

It gets my attention when I see anything that seems to have anything to do with mail delivery.

My first thought is, what in the hell is DeJoy doing now to confuse mail delivery?

I believe DeJoy's primary mission as the Postmaster General has always been directed at the 2024 election and finding ways to SLOW DOWN or LOSE voter ballots in an effort to help 45 STEAL the 2024 election. A few lost ballots here in this voting district and here and here can add up to enough lost votes to swing a close election.

HE IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED!

bucolic_frolic

(46,512 posts)
2. Don't know but I got a cell phone poll from Trump yesterday. My unlisted #
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jun 2024

They are desperate to create buzz and be seen as winning. I did reply. Do you support Trump? NO!!!!!

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,506 posts)
3. The poll rigging I heard about from the recent trial was for "NY's most popular businessman" or some such nonsense
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:10 PM
Jun 2024

I don't think it had anything to do with the election. But if he did it for something so inconsequential, I wouldn't be surprised if he did it for something else.

Jacson6

(665 posts)
4. The RW radio hosts are pushing polls that say Trump is up by 12% w/ Hispanics
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:30 PM
Jun 2024

and 22% with African Americans. They didn't say who did the poll or if it was a "web poll".

Fiendish Thingy

(17,982 posts)
5. Many pollsters accept commissions for polls from both parties
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 01:47 PM
Jun 2024

Some are traditionally Republican pollsters, some Democratic.

Some pollsters never accept commissions from any party, but often work with media organizations, who fund, and then report the results using their own framing and narratives.

So, yes, I think it leans more towards conspiracy theories to suggest the Trump campaign is bribing pollsters to rig poll results, when they can just as easily pay an organization to conduct a poll with the questions and sample make up that would be favourable to them, and when the corporate media, without any enticement from the campaign, will pay for and report on polls in a manner favourable to the Trump campaign, at no cost to the campaign.

Why invent some sort of secret, underground chicanery, when the flaws and biases of many polling agencies are public knowledge?

Attilatheblond

(4,090 posts)
15. Even if it is just some consumer 'product' poll, I first ask 'who is paying for this poll?'
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jun 2024

No body ever even understands the question, maybe because it's not included in their script. But when they fumble and mumble, and after I re-state it twice more, I tell them I am hanging up now and not to call back.

Most polls are useless. People with brains generally won't engage.

ananda

(30,403 posts)
9. And they're not alone.
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 02:42 PM
Jun 2024

Polls are being manipulated all over the place.

A lot of it is to see if they can keep it a horse
race, make money, and get ratings.

H2O Man

(75,210 posts)
13. Recommended.
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 03:31 PM
Jun 2024

Keep in mind that a heck of a lot of conspiracy theories are true. This includes in criminal and non-criminal settings. Any time two or more people plan for a crime, for example, that is true. When investigators seek to solve crime, they come up with a theory on how those people conspired to commit the crime. If they have enough evidence, they tuen it over to the prosecutoe. "January 6" was rooted in a conspiracy. When it eventually gets to court, the prosecution's theory on the felon's role will be presented, with enough evidence to convict him.

thesquanderer

(12,286 posts)
16. re: "Is the campaign still manipulating any of these polls?"
Mon Jun 17, 2024, 03:34 PM
Jun 2024

Based on the story that came out, his attempts at rigging those polls--as inconsequential as those polls were--were unsuccessful.

At any rate, the media and any informed voters have long ago learned about those once-popular "online polls" and it seems they are hardly done anymore, or if they are, nobody pays attention to them.

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