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Bayard

(29,685 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 01:15 AM Jun 2024

Planet Nine: Is the search for this elusive world nearly over?

Astronomers have been scouring the outer solar system for signs of a hypothetical ninth planet for almost a decade, without success. However, we may finally be on the cusp of finding it, experts say.


Scientists think there may be a ninth planet hiding in the distant reaches of the solar system — and a new telescope could finally prove its existence. (Image credit: Nicholas Forder for Live Science)


Deep in the outer reaches of the solar system — so far away from the known planets that the sun would barely be distinguishable from a nearby star — a massive, icy world may be lurking in the shadows, waiting to be discovered by humanity. And the day that we finally find this elusive planet may be coming soon, thanks to a state-of-the-art telescope that will begin scanning the sky next year.

The solar system has eight official planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. But in recent years, astronomers have proposed that a ninth world, imaginatively nicknamed "Planet Nine," could be hiding in the far reaches of our cosmic neighborhood.

And no, we're not talking about Pluto, which was demoted from full planetary status to "dwarf planet" in 2006. Instead, scientists believe Planet Nine is a gas or ice giant billions of miles farther out than the rest of the planets. If it exists, it could also rewrite our understanding of the solar system's origins and evolution.

Astronomers have predicted how big this hypothetical world could be, how far away it could lie and even where it should be in its orbit around the sun. Yet actually finding Planet Nine, sometimes called Planet X, has eluded scientists for nearly a decade.
But the hunt for the solar system's potential ninth planet may soon be coming to a close. With the opening of the groundbreaking Vera C. Rubin Observatory in 2025, we may either finally find Planet Nine within the next few years — or rule out the idea for good, experts told Live Science.


https://www.livescience.com/space/planets/planet-nine-is-the-search-for-this-elusive-world-nearly-over



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Silent3

(15,909 posts)
2. It's funny how many different ideas must exist for "inside the solar system"
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 02:19 AM
Jun 2024

Voyager 1 is currently around 162 AU away from us, and more than once has been reported to have "left the solar system", as different scientific and popular press notions have kicked in. Voyager 1 is now beyond the "heliopause", where the force of our own sun's solar winds drops to where it is indistinguishable the pressure of the interstellar medium.

Planet Nine, however, is estimated (if it exists) to be around 500 AU away, way far beyond the heliopause and Voyager. But we can't very well call it a planet in our solar system and say it's beyond our solar system at the same time.

yagotme

(4,135 posts)
6. We just don't know how much we don't know.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 11:18 AM
Jun 2024

If Planet X is found out that far, that will just reset the outer limit of the solar system, as long as it actually abides by planetary rules.

Angleae

(4,801 posts)
11. Planet 9/X/whatever, if it exists, is likely to have a highly elliptical orbit.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 04:09 PM
Jun 2024

One that takes it from near pluto's orbit all the way out to the nether regions of outer space.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
3. Maybe the current iteration of this has been
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 02:37 AM
Jun 2024

going on for a decade, but I remember an astronomer named Chuck something speaking to an astronomy group on Long Island in the early 1970’s about his search for “Planet X”, the 9th planet. He was not accorded a heck of a lot of respect.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
7. I feel the way about "dwarf" planets the way...
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 11:34 AM
Jun 2024

I do about “Reagan” National. Pluto is a planet.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,211 posts)
10. Do you regard Eris as a full-scale 'planet', then?
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 01:11 PM
Jun 2024

It's heavier than Pluto, after all. How about Haumea and Makemake - they're closer to the Sun, on average, than Eris. What are your cut-off criteria that stop Ceres, or other asteroids, being a planet (remembering that Ceres used to be called a planet too)?

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