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Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 09:53 AM Jun 2024

Will Trump show up at next week's debate?

The rules don't favor him. My understanding is that there will be no audience, a two minute limit to answer a question, and mics will be cut off when the other person is speaking.

Given that there will be no one to cheer for him, his endless rambling being cut short after two minutes, and his inability to interrupt Joe because his mic will be dead, I can see Trump either throwing a tantrum, or walking out. His handlers know that, and are probably trying to talk him out of showing up. I'm sure they have a dozen excuses prepared.

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Will Trump show up at next week's debate? (Original Post) Cyrano Jun 2024 OP
He's checking with his draft-deferment consultants BoRaGard Jun 2024 #1
Hair spurs? sop Jun 2024 #2
If you saw some of the tapes of him meeting the GOP Senators last week, you saw he had 3 handlers that FSogol Jun 2024 #3
Hopefully he'll bring a coat, because the studio might be cold. Omnipresent Jun 2024 #4
If he doesn't he knows he will be taunted relentlessly as a chicken and a loser. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #5
He already IS a chicken and coward as well as a loser. SWBTATTReg Jun 2024 #11
my crystal ball and gaydar have been broke for years . AllaN01Bear Jun 2024 #6
Trump without a mic or an audience is like a shark on dry land. sop Jun 2024 #7
I can't believe he didn't negotiate for a better deal for himself. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #13
ON KO today, he mentoned that TSF had posted on truth social, FalloutShelter Jun 2024 #8
I think he shows up (in form maybe, if not in function) Torchlight Jun 2024 #9
The assumption is no Johonny Jun 2024 #10
I think Biden should show up even if Trump doesn't, Ocelot II Jun 2024 #12
Bad idea. At the 2012 Republican Convention, Clint Eastwood Cyrano Jun 2024 #16
But Eastwood wasn't the candidate, and he handled the show poorly by addressing the chair. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #17
Not close to the same situation Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #18
Biden should take questions in the debate format pfitz59 Jun 2024 #22
I think he will have to do prime time rallies.Nonstop Tribetime Jun 2024 #14
Hope not Rebl2 Jun 2024 #15
I agree with peppertree after NY Highest court ruling on gag order. republianmushroom Jun 2024 #19
I doubt that TFG will show up LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #20
I'll bet you $1,000 right now that he does Polybius Jun 2024 #24
You'd win. He showed up in 2016 and 2020, although he did weasel out of primaries. Silent Type Jun 2024 #26
Hannity seems worried LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #30
Well played, Mitt Bucky Jun 2024 #31
He is already working on a list of excuses BigmanPigman Jun 2024 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #23
I think Trump will be "seriously ill" at the last moment. lpbk2713 Jun 2024 #25
Trump will show up for the same reason he won't be wired with an earpiece... brooklynite Jun 2024 #27
I really don't care, do u? Emile Jun 2024 #28
I'm going to go with Trump Tantrum, Arne Jun 2024 #29
I think he'll show up. EndlessWire Jun 2024 #32
He has to...entire campaign built on Biden's age 617Blue Jun 2024 #33
In this case, if he shows up or not, he'll get what he always wants. Ping Tung Jun 2024 #34

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
1. He's checking with his draft-deferment consultants
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 09:57 AM
Jun 2024

Dodging the military draft five times worked bigly for the republican felon, so maybe (he figures) he should also cash in on a debate deferment.

After all, he doesn't want to be a "sucker and a loser."

FSogol

(47,534 posts)
3. If you saw some of the tapes of him meeting the GOP Senators last week, you saw he had 3 handlers that
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 10:08 AM
Jun 2024

were obviously not Secret Service. They kept within 3-5 feet of him to direct him around and they seemed panicky whenever he hugged / kissed people or moved around.

He won't show up because they won't have any way to control him on stage. They'll need some reason to cancel and blame it on Biden.

Omnipresent

(7,319 posts)
4. Hopefully he'll bring a coat, because the studio might be cold.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 10:10 AM
Jun 2024

That Dumbass convict forgot to bring a coat, every day he was on trial

Ocelot II

(129,374 posts)
5. If he doesn't he knows he will be taunted relentlessly as a chicken and a loser.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 10:11 AM
Jun 2024

I think he'll show up for that reason, and also because he can't stand to turn down a free opportunity to bloviate to a national audience. HE doesn't think he's senile and nuts, even though his handlers must be painfully aware that although the wheel is still turning the hamster is dead. He wants to show how smart and strong he is and how slow and old Biden is. And he definitely doesn't want to be seen as a chicken and a loser.

SWBTATTReg

(26,082 posts)
11. He already IS a chicken and coward as well as a loser.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 10:50 AM
Jun 2024

I predict that he'll chicken out. He will state something like Pres. Biden refused to take a drug test or some other BS reason.

FalloutShelter

(14,214 posts)
8. ON KO today, he mentoned that TSF had posted on truth social,
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 10:25 AM
Jun 2024

that he "Heretofore agrees", to meet Joe Biden for debate at FOX News on October 5.

The Biden campaign shot back that there is NO plan to debate TSF on Fox.

My guess is this will be the out..."I agreed to Fox News and if not then, the headline will be "Biden chickens out on Oct5 Debate in Fox News, and therefore I'm out."

Just MHO.


Torchlight

(6,362 posts)
9. I think he shows up (in form maybe, if not in function)
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 10:47 AM
Jun 2024

I tend to think his ego is too large to allow himself any possibility to excuse or avoid a public confrontation with very person he's unleashed his years-long tantrum on. It would be seen by his flock, and advertised by his opponents, as laying on the floor with a curled tail and showing his belly.

But, it's Mr. trump, and I've learned (late, but I've learned) to never expect a rational reaction from him.

Johonny

(25,566 posts)
10. The assumption is no
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 10:48 AM
Jun 2024

But how he backs out and what Biden does if Trump no shows . . .

I think Biden needs to speak more in public and show his mental fitness. You have to feel Biden benefits for showing and laying out his agenda.

Ocelot II

(129,374 posts)
12. I think Biden should show up even if Trump doesn't,
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 10:58 AM
Jun 2024

and his campaign should announce in advance that Biden will be there no matter what. If TFG doesn't show up Biden gets free air time to debate an unoccupied lectern.

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
16. Bad idea. At the 2012 Republican Convention, Clint Eastwood
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 11:13 AM
Jun 2024

addressed an empty chair. He was supposedly speaking to Obama. (Mitt Romney was the Republican candidate.)

It fell flat and I'm sure Eastwood probably regrets it, even now.

Ocelot II

(129,374 posts)
17. But Eastwood wasn't the candidate, and he handled the show poorly by addressing the chair.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 11:23 AM
Jun 2024

It was just a symbolic performance at the GOP convention, not a real debate for which one candidate didn't show up. If Biden appeared unopposed, he could answer the moderators' questions and show how normal and not-senile he is, and he wouldn't have to address the vacant lectern at all.

Happy Hoosier

(9,424 posts)
18. Not close to the same situation
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 11:35 AM
Jun 2024

Without TCF there, it essentially becomes an opportunity for Biden to present his case without having to split the time.

pfitz59

(12,383 posts)
22. Biden should take questions in the debate format
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 06:44 PM
Jun 2024

With crickets chirping during Trump's time.

republianmushroom

(22,125 posts)
19. I agree with peppertree after NY Highest court ruling on gag order.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 12:29 PM
Jun 2024

"And you can bet this will be his excuse for ducking the upcoming debates
The gag order will become what the "tax audit" was for Cheeto in 2016:
His pretext for avoiding anything and everything that makes him uncomfortable." peppertree

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

lpbk2713

(43,250 posts)
25. I think Trump will be "seriously ill" at the last moment.
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 07:43 PM
Jun 2024


His handlers will insist that he doesn't embarrass himself any more than he already has.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
27. Trump will show up for the same reason he won't be wired with an earpiece...
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 07:48 PM
Jun 2024

He believes he’s a brilliant communicator.

Arne

(3,609 posts)
29. I'm going to go with Trump Tantrum,
Tue Jun 18, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jun 2024

on stage, drug fueled, uncontrollable tantrum.
Ranting bumbeling mishmash of absurd nonsense.
And then,,,
next question sir.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
32. I think he'll show up.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 11:08 AM
Jun 2024

I never understood why he called for the debate in the first place. How quickly Biden accepted seemed to stun him. And now he's backed into a corner. The debate rules favor him, really, if he had anything substantive to say. He frequently doesn't, and removing his punching bags might leave him without a plank to stand on.

But, he can't back out now without seeming cowardly. If he is going to, I'd say by Monday. I agree that the most likely excuse would be the gag order ruling. But, because he has started setting up an excuse for losing the debate, I think he'll show up. If not, what an excellent opportunity for Joe to deliver a speech. And, that's another reason he'll probably show up.

Ping Tung

(4,151 posts)
34. In this case, if he shows up or not, he'll get what he always wants.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 12:13 PM
Jun 2024

To the dunce, everything is just Showbiz and performance.

If he doesn't show it''ll be "It's rigged! Why should I have to entertain the low-life, reporters giving creepy Joe a chance to insult me and you the people."

If he does show and and walks out, headline, "Trump walks out. Claims the debate is rigged.'

If he does show, and stays, headline, "Trump claims overwhelming, history making, victory."

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