Dr. Fauci says "Illegitimi non carborundum" means "Don't let the bastards wear you down", but...

[Towlie]

Dr. Anthony Fauci says empathy motivated his medical career but an old phrase from high school kept him going.

Dr. Fauci says "Illegitimi non carborundum" means "Don’t let the bastards wear you down", but the research I did indicates that it means "Illegitimate silicon carbide".

If we could only figure this out then it might be an appropriate motto for us to adopt.

[Maeve]

1. Mock latin dating from WWII

[AZSkiffyGeek]

2. Popularized in Handmaid's Tale NT

[Celerity]

7. that was 'Nolite te Bastardes Carborundorum'

Handmaid’s Tale: The Strange History of “Nolite te Bastardes Carborundorum”

The key to unlocking this phrase’s origins might be in its final word.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/05/handmaids-tale-nolite-te-bastardes-carborundorum-origin-margaret-atwood

https://archive.ph/U90UF



It’s one of the most iconic phrases in modern literature—as evidenced by the bevy of women who have it scrawled across their bodies in tattoo form. But what does it mean? Technically speaking, “Nolite te bastardes carborundorum”—a phrase found in Margaret Atwood’s novel The Handmaid’s Tale and, more recently, its TV adaptation that was just renewed for a second season on Hulu—means nothing. It’s a made-up phrase in mock Latin—a schoolboy’s joke, as it’s explained in both the novel and the series. If it were a real phrase, it would roughly translate to “don’t let the bastards grind you down.” Outside the world of the book, the phrase has taken on a life of its own, as a sort of feminist rallying cry for women—and even within the book, it inspires Offred to fight back against the repressive powers that be.

But various forms of the phrase actually go back much further than Handmaid itself; as Atwood herself said, the motto was a joke when she was in school, too. “I’ll tell you the weird thing about it,” Atwood told Time magazine about the quote this spring. “It was a joke in our Latin classes. So this thing from my childhood is permanently on people’s bodies.” So, where did the original faux-aphorism come from? Vanity Fair spoke with Michael Fontaine, a classics professor from Cornell University, who took his best guess. To Fontaine, the phrase “nolite te bastardes carborundorum” “looks like someone tried to put the English into Google Translate for Latin.” “Nolite” means “don’t” (plural) in Latin, Fontaine wrote in an e-mail, while “te” means “you.” “Bastardes,” however, is a made-up word with a Latin suffix, and “carborundorum” is not Latin either.

Per Fontaine, “carborundorum” is an English word that originated around 120 years ago; the Oxford English Dictionary, indicates that carborundorum was an industrial product used as an abrasive. “That’s where the idea of ‘getting someone down’ or ‘wearing someone down’ originated,” Fontaine explained to Vanity Fair, adding that the made-up, Latin-sounding name is similar to products like “Nexium” and “Crestor.” Since “carborundorum” looks vaguely like Latin, it works as an approximation of the real thing—and the word ends in [the similar] “-ndum,” a suffix that means “is needing to be.” (Think “referendum” as an example.) Another similar Latin joke phrase with the same supposed translation is “illegitimi non carborundorum,” which Fontaine noted was equally fake—though it’s perhaps a little more legit as Latin, since it at least doesn’t use the made-up “bastardes.” “Illegitimi is a real Latin word,” Fontaine wrote. “It could indeed mean ‘bastards’ (though it’s not the usual word, which is spurius or nothos).”

“My guess is that c. 1890-1900, some American people thought it would be funny to pretend like ‘carborundum’ was actually a Latin word meaning ‘needing to be worn down’ or (making allowances for ignorance, which is surely part of it) ‘to wear down.’ If the phrase was originally illegitimis non carborundum, then the original idea was that ‘there must not be a wearing down (of you) by the bastards,’ or in plain English, ‘don’t let the bastards get you down.’ Either then or soon after, illegitimis would have become illegitimi, which changes the grammar, but most English speakers can’t tell because our grammar doesn’t work that way. That would pretty quickly give you illegitimi non carborundum. QED.” “The key to the mystery is knowing (from the O.E.D.) that carborundum was a trade name,” he continued. “Whatever it was, it’s not in use any more, so we’ve lost all memory of it. Nowadays it just looks like a strange, broken Latin word to us.” But to be fair, it does make a pretty killer tattoo.

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[usonian]

3. Those of us of the "handy" persuasion recognize carborundum/silicon carbide as an abrasive.

We've known it for ages. Won't say how many.

[Marthe48]

4. My Dad had a cardboard sign with this phrase

hanging in our family grocery store. I found one or 2 copies in his papers.

He said it meant "Don't let the bastards grind you down."

[NutmegYankee]

5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum

[Celerity]

6. Illegitimi non carborundum is a mock-Latin aphorism, often translated as "Don't let the bastards grind you down". The

phrase itself has no meaning in Latin and can only be mock-translated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum

[IcyPeas]

8. Reminds me of lithography class. We used carborundum to ....

grind down the stone.