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a kennedy

(35,928 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 05:28 PM Jun 2024

How can this be allowed to happen....10 commandments required in all classrooms????

Louisiana public schools are now required to display the Ten Commandments in all classrooms, after Republican Gov. Jeff Landry signed the requirement into law Wednesday.

House Bill 71, approved by state lawmakers last month, mandates that a poster-size display of the Ten Commandments with “large, easily readable font” be in every classroom at schools that receive state funding, from kindergarten through the university level.

The legislation specifies the exact language that must be printed on the classroom displays and outlines that the text of the Ten Commandments must be the central focus of the poster or framed document.

Before signing the bill, Landry called it “one of (his) favorites.”

“If you want to respect the rule of law, you gotta start from the original law given which was Moses. … He got his commandments from God,” Landry said.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/19/politics/louisiana-classrooms-ten-commandments/index.html

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How can this be allowed to happen....10 commandments required in all classrooms???? (Original Post) a kennedy Jun 2024 OP
Thou Shalt Not Worship Any Graven Images Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #1
+1. Although the shalt not kill, steal, lie about others, ain't too bad. Silent Type Jun 2024 #2
Calling Church of Satan!!! I'm surprised they're not on this already. Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #3
GOP politicians break the commandments every day. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #4
And that bdamomma Jun 2024 #23
MAGAs too. They break them all. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #25
I guess a religious mandate is A-OK because FREE SPEECH Shermann Jun 2024 #5
No, it's not. EndlessWire Jun 2024 #17
more to come. rampartc Jun 2024 #6
are picx of the adulterer in chief still hanging in classrooms if trump wins nt msongs Jun 2024 #7
Legislators don't pay any penalty for violating the Constitution. HeartachesNhangovers Jun 2024 #8
There needs to be something like vexatious litigant Lithos Jun 2024 #13
Now tenets from all other faiths must be posted. lpbk2713 Jun 2024 #9
I agree. crim son Jun 2024 #12
The Ten Commandments are Jewish in origin, not Christian. former9thward Jun 2024 #30
Pastafarian minister here, voicing strong support for this idea nt ramen Jun 2024 #28
Hey GOP -- Thou Shalt Fuck Off Blue Owl Jun 2024 #10
There will be lawsuits. spanone Jun 2024 #11
They are certifiably insane JanMichael Jun 2024 #14
Keep any/all religion out of my public schools, MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #15
the clowns have the votes they can do what they want dembotoz Jun 2024 #16
It is time to donate to the ACLU again LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #18
Good thing we have the courts to overrule this. Emile Jun 2024 #19
And republicans as a whole, break 1, 2 & 9 on a daily basis. William769 Jun 2024 #20
It gets the whackos to the polls. Iggo Jun 2024 #21
So, what does a Louisiana teacher do when a school kid pipes up and says...... DFW Jun 2024 #22
I can just see it... jmowreader Jun 2024 #24
Those elementary school students better not covet another student's wife Blue Owl Jun 2024 #26
And the governor says he's looking forward to lawsuits. catrose Jun 2024 #27
This can only happen because TheFarseer Jun 2024 #29
As I've said before the MAGAS in control of Louisiana are in a horse race to B.See Jun 2024 #31
As a guide to living, they are pretty lame Doc Sportello Jun 2024 #32
Fine, you wanna play that game? Here's a statue of Baphomet in every classroom. sakabatou Jun 2024 #33
It could be two things: no_hypocrisy Jun 2024 #34
Why Louisiana's radical new law on Ten Commandments, schools matters LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #35

Shermann

(9,058 posts)
5. I guess a religious mandate is A-OK because FREE SPEECH
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 05:37 PM
Jun 2024

What's scary is that SCOTUS may end up with the ability to codify this.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
17. No, it's not.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 06:43 PM
Jun 2024

It's mandated speech. What about non Christians? This is a public school. The US has separation of church and state. The next thing to enforce will be a picture of Trump in every room, if we fail to turn out and win the November election. Not much farther to go to make Trump into an enshrined Gawd with his own specialized Bible.

Here's a link to an explanation of Louisiana school funding:

https://lailluminator.com/2024/04/17/school-funding/

Because I ran into sources that said some Federal money might be involved, I thought that's what I would find. But, no.

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
6. more to come.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jun 2024

these characters have a new constitution for the state. and are catching up with desantis already with the crazy.







8. Legislators don't pay any penalty for violating the Constitution.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jun 2024

They can't be held civilly or criminally liable. They should be punished by being voted out of office, but voters apparently would rather stick it to the other side than to vote out miscreants.

Lithos

(26,637 posts)
13. There needs to be something like vexatious litigant
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 06:00 PM
Jun 2024

Creating laws that were created knowing they are likely fraught with legal issues for partisan or ideological purposes should expose the legislator to some automatic censure. This is essentially malfeasance of duty.

crim son

(27,552 posts)
12. I agree.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 05:52 PM
Jun 2024

This is the only way to fight back. I am not a Christian and my kids are not Christians. Why would I approve their being forced to view Christian-only propaganda? Either keep all religion out of schools, or include ALL religion in schools. Educate the kids that there are a brazillion Christian sects, and just as many non-Christian religious groups out there, not to mention the atheists and agnostics. Tech them about Mormon polygamy, the burning of Protestants, the burning of the witches, the treatment of women under various religions throughout history. Why wait? If we can send our kids to war at age eighteen, we can surely inform them about religious hypocrisy during their senior year in high school.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
30. The Ten Commandments are Jewish in origin, not Christian.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 09:54 PM
Jun 2024

Islam has adopted them also and they are thru out the Quran. Why you think it is "Christian-only" I don't know.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
15. Keep any/all religion out of my public schools,
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 06:19 PM
Jun 2024

off my money, out of my government. It belongs in churches, private schools, and in your own home ONLY

William769

(59,147 posts)
20. And republicans as a whole, break 1, 2 & 9 on a daily basis.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 07:42 PM
Jun 2024

Don't even get me started with them & 7.

DFW

(60,158 posts)
22. So, what does a Louisiana teacher do when a school kid pipes up and says......
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 08:23 PM
Jun 2024

"Hey, Ms. Teacher? About that first commandment? I have LOTS of other gods before whatisname on the wall, there. Odin, Zeus, Apollo, Zoroaster, the Great Spirit, Stan Lee, Superman and Joe Pesci. Does this mean I can skip school now, or do you gotta kick me out first?"

(Hey, there have to be at least a few Louisiana school kids who have heard of George Carlin)

jmowreader

(53,168 posts)
24. I can just see it...
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jun 2024

"Mrs. Smith, the Seventh Commandment says 'thou shalt not commit adultery.' What's adultery?"

Mrs. Smith tells them what adultery is.

Two days later Mrs. Smith is fired for discussing sex with children, branded a groomer, stripped of her teaching license and forced to move out of state in the middle of the night so she won't be killed.

catrose

(5,364 posts)
27. And the governor says he's looking forward to lawsuits.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 09:28 PM
Jun 2024

Good, because the first one’s already been filed.

TheFarseer

(9,769 posts)
29. This can only happen because
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 09:29 PM
Jun 2024

Our courts are politicized to the point of being a complete joke - even worse than the rest of the government. Any other time in our history and this would have been laughed out of court as obviously unconstitutional.

B.See

(8,439 posts)
31. As I've said before the MAGAS in control of Louisiana are in a horse race to
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 10:20 PM
Jun 2024

OUT MAGA Texas and Florida.

Curiously, the bill their governor signed requires the Ten Commandments be displayed in all PUBLIC schools. Not those private and parochial schools, FUNDED incidentaly by a bill also just signed by Landry that enables TAXPAYER PAID VOUCHERS to those exempt private and parochial schools.

But Hey. It's the MAGA way. "Membership" has its privileges.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
32. As a guide to living, they are pretty lame
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 11:11 PM
Jun 2024

One third of them are about subjugating oneself to "the Lord" and some of the others are about things people do on a regular basis, sometimes for good reasons like lying so as to not hurt people's feelings. Oh yeah, do not kill is a good one except for the fact that religions have propagated more mass murders than anything I can think of.

no_hypocrisy

(54,881 posts)
34. It could be two things:
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 04:57 AM
Jun 2024

A test case that is hoped to go to the current USSC, which may in fact approve it.

Or it's baiting MAGAts (and Trump) to have a new issue where they're "fighting to protect our God".

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,571 posts)
35. Why Louisiana's radical new law on Ten Commandments, schools matters
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 08:45 AM
Jun 2024

The Supreme Court has said Ten Commandments displays in public schools are unconstitutional. Louisiana Republicans passed a new law on this anyway.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/louisianas-radical-new-law-ten-commandments-schools-matters-rcna158001

In recent months, a handful of Republican-dominated states have flirted with the idea of government-sponsored religious displays in public school classrooms, though those efforts ultimately fell short. As NBC News reported, however, GOP officials in Louisiana actually followed through on the idea.

Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom under a bill Republican Gov. Jeff Landry signed into law Wednesday. The GOP-drafted legislation mandates that a poster-size display of the Ten Commandments in a “large, easily readable font” be in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities.


Under the new law, which will take effect in 2025, assorted other documents — including the Mayflower Compact and the Declaration of Independence — can also be displayed in classrooms, but only the Decalogue is required.....

It wasn’t long before Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana, and the Freedom from Religion Foundation announced their intention to challenge the new law in court.

“The law violates the separation of church and state and is blatantly unconstitutional,” the groups said in a joint statement. “The First Amendment promises that we all get to decide for ourselves what religious beliefs, if any, to hold and practice, without pressure from the government. Politicians have no business imposing their preferred religious doctrine on students and families in public schools.”....

So why would Louisiana Republicans take a step that the Supreme Court has already rejected? It’s probably because they’re confident that the newly politicized high court and its dominant far-right majority — not to mention the brazen Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals — will simply overturn the Stone precedent, doing fresh harm to the wall that’s supposed to separate church and state in this country.

“I can’t wait to be sued,” Landry said at a fundraiser over the weekend. Those were the words of a partisan who expects his ideological judicial allies to let him trample over Louisianans’ religious rights.
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