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Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 02:27 AM Jun 2024

Republicans Are Scrambling To Teach Cognitively Declining Trump Policy Before The Debate

Trump is not doing debate prep, but having policy time where Republican senators try to teach the cognitively declining ex-president before the debate. Maggie Haberman reported on CNN with Anderson Cooper:

He’s not doing mock debates. He’s not doing mock debates that could, that could certainly change. But he’s been doing what they’ve been describing as policy time where they bring in different people to brief him. A bunch of senators have come up, come in last week, Senator Marco Rubio and Senator Eric Schmitt, both briefed him at the RNC headquarters after his meeting with lawmakers around Capitol Hill, which was his first major meeting with party members since he became the presumptive nominee. And they are focusing on various issues that could come up, abortion, health care, energy, COVID and then very specifically, and this was one thing that came up last Thursday, what Trump will say when asked January 6th related questions, particularly his statements about pardoning some of the people who were arrested in connection with the violence that day.

This news that Trump is preparing for the debate by not doing any debate prep comes at the same time that it is being reported that Trump has serious memory issues. Senate Republicans are trying to teach a man who was president for four years about policy while he is dealing with severe memory problems.

What could possibly go wrong with this idea? We’ve already seen what can go wrong because it already did. When Trump was president, he refused to read or prepare and forced the people around him to give him verbal briefings, which explains how he could spend four years in the White House and appear to have learned nothing.

https://www.politicususa.com/2024/06/19/trump-debate-prep-2024.html

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Republicans Are Scrambling To Teach Cognitively Declining Trump Policy Before The Debate (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Jun 2024 OP
Trump could fall down on the bar his supporters set for him, and they would be happy. nt BootinUp Jun 2024 #1
'Scrambling To Teach Cognitively Declining Trump Policy?' elleng Jun 2024 #2
Be careful COL Mustard Jun 2024 #9
LOLOL! elleng Jun 2024 #11
All of the above! (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2024 #32
Moscow Mule? Tanuki Jun 2024 #45
Never had one; elleng Jun 2024 #48
Colonel Mustard in General Discussion with the Superb Advice. Aristus Jun 2024 #41
Only after he's buried COL Mustard Jun 2024 #44
Then it will be Colonel Mustard and Aristus in the study with champagne and cigars! Aristus Jun 2024 #54
Maybe by that time COL Mustard Jun 2024 #59
Good God Ellen, don't do a drinking game on debate night. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #15
LOL! elleng Jun 2024 #34
If you stick to lemonade you will be really hydrated!! Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #35
And up half the night COL Mustard Jun 2024 #46
Yes. If we are going to do a drinking game on debate night Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #47
Jacked up Joe could sleep right up to the start and still look far sharper that that POS captain queeg Jun 2024 #3
I said a couple weeks back that I expect them to bring in someone to do Trumps makeup and hair and brewens Jun 2024 #5
That could set the stage for his melt down. Especially if Joe or a moderator points it out. captain queeg Jun 2024 #7
If he's learning a damn thing, I'll eat my shorts! LOL I'd be willing to bet he's wasting almost all of the time brewens Jun 2024 #4
I Agree With Your Coaching Of The People Writing & Asking The Debate Questions..... global1 Jun 2024 #6
I'm looking forward to it for us it will be amusing. captain queeg Jun 2024 #8
I usually don't watch COL Mustard Jun 2024 #10
You might as well try to teach a chicken to play tennis DFW Jun 2024 #12
Famous psychologist B.F. Skinner taught pigeons to play ping pong. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #16
In this upcoming election, we should pay more attention to whom they nominate as his VP DFW Jun 2024 #17
Yes Trump's VP has a good chance of being president or running the show. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #21
I tend toward the latter DFW Jun 2024 #24
Oh yes I think you are quite correct. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #28
"Remember to pretend that you love American democracy." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Jun 2024 #13
And accuse Biden of doing all the crimes you commit. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #20
traitortrump gets his info from FOX and Putin, same as his enablers and supporters. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #14
Don't fall in love with the "Cognitively Declining Trump" narrative Bucky Jun 2024 #18
Good advice, take note all. captain queeg Jun 2024 #38
I agree. Aristus Jun 2024 #42
You are 100% correct. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #49
laughable HAB911 Jun 2024 #19
The format is awful for Trump Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #22
Frantically trying to slap some lipstick on that pig. tanyev Jun 2024 #23
He knows comedy. Kid Berwyn Jun 2024 #25
he's gonna have an earpiece..... getagrip_already Jun 2024 #26
Is that what they're calling diaper changing these days? Blue Owl Jun 2024 #27
They could actually do a better job. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #29
The microphone placement is critical. Arne Jun 2024 #30
Oh, that should go well. louis-t Jun 2024 #31
Yes Trump can probably get the questions ahead of time. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #50
The only policy Donald cares about is total loyalty to Trump. keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #33
And how can he get more money and power. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #51
Probably fluffing dslyahoo Jun 2024 #36
Why? RobinA Jun 2024 #37
Reading thru the comments reinforced my belief that he will make some excuse not to show up. captain queeg Jun 2024 #39
So! The GQP leaders are the "experts " who can "help"him? lindysalsagal Jun 2024 #40
"Besides the bible, obviously, what books have you recently read?" JoseBalow Jun 2024 #43
I'd think that after being President and running for the office twice as long TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #52
His groupies are the same. All they know is part of the second amendment. captain queeg Jun 2024 #55
I doubt he does anything to 'prep' for the debates....he knows more than anyone. spanone Jun 2024 #53
Rofl. Good luck with that. Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #56
Good grief moose65 Jun 2024 #57
Don the Con is a lazy asshole. He'll wing it like always Hassler Jun 2024 #58

elleng

(141,926 posts)
2. 'Scrambling To Teach Cognitively Declining Trump Policy?'
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 02:32 AM
Jun 2024

Heckuva job they've got.



What should I/We drink, that night? Dear Aristus???

elleng

(141,926 posts)
48. Never had one;
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:49 PM
Jun 2024

daughter and son in law may have.

P.S., surprise, @ lunch after grand daughter's nursery school graduation, daughter's Margarita $10, my Sangria $5!

Aristus

(72,318 posts)
41. Colonel Mustard in General Discussion with the Superb Advice.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 03:05 PM
Jun 2024

I really don't want to set a drinking game around anything that Trump may or may not do.

Except die.

When he's dead, champagne all around!...

Aristus

(72,318 posts)
54. Then it will be Colonel Mustard and Aristus in the study with champagne and cigars!
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 06:13 PM
Jun 2024

And the rest of DU is invited, too!

Irish_Dem

(81,869 posts)
15. Good God Ellen, don't do a drinking game on debate night.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 06:41 AM
Jun 2024

A drink for every time Trump lies, or shows his sociopathy and dementia symptoms.

A half hour in, you will have to be rushed to the ER for detox.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
3. Jacked up Joe could sleep right up to the start and still look far sharper that that POS
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 02:56 AM
Jun 2024

I’m talking mentally but I hope donny dresses himself and does his own makeup. That oughta be good.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
5. I said a couple weeks back that I expect them to bring in someone to do Trumps makeup and hair and
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 03:21 AM
Jun 2024

it will be totally obvious. They won't be smart enough to just get him looking like he did a couple years ago. They will go way too far. He'll be looking too sweet (for him) and it will stick out like a turd in a punch bowl.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
7. That could set the stage for his melt down. Especially if Joe or a moderator points it out.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 03:52 AM
Jun 2024
 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
4. If he's learning a damn thing, I'll eat my shorts! LOL I'd be willing to bet he's wasting almost all of the time
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 03:17 AM
Jun 2024

anyone puts in trying to help him. He can't admit not being a genius. Anything he does pick up will be erased by the next time he sees the issue lied about on whatever media he's watching.

I'd like to be coaching the people writing the debate questions. They would loaded with big words and technical terms and structured so Trump would have to reveal what he knows about the particular issue being discussed.

global1

(26,507 posts)
6. I Agree With Your Coaching Of The People Writing & Asking The Debate Questions.....
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 03:36 AM
Jun 2024

Many of Tr**p's positions are based on conspiracy theories; hoax's and lies.

If the questions are asked with that in mind - Tr**p will have to pivot from the political policy coaching he's been given by party members and will be answering the questions from his rally spiel.

If I'm right Tr**p will deviate from the policy and rely on his lies, hoax's and conspiracies that he's been pushing at his MAGA rallies.

I think that will make him look the fool.

Biden could then run circles around Tr**p when he gets to answer or reply to Tr**p's bloviating.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
8. I'm looking forward to it for us it will be amusing.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 03:55 AM
Jun 2024

For the trump supporters they’ll say he won no matter what. But for the 5-10% who haven’t decided yet it ought to be eye opening.

DFW

(60,317 posts)
12. You might as well try to teach a chicken to play tennis
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:02 AM
Jun 2024

Even if it did want to, the capacity to do so is simply not there.

Irish_Dem

(81,869 posts)
16. Famous psychologist B.F. Skinner taught pigeons to play ping pong.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 06:50 AM
Jun 2024

Renowned Harvard professor Dr. Skinner, who developed the psychology theory of behaviorism,
actually taught pigeons to play ping pong using behavioral shaping.

But your point is well taken, trying to teach Trump anything at this point is futile.
Even when he was more intact, he was lazy and disinterested in anything other
than himself.

So now it is a total waste of time.

They would do better to get him an earpiece and lots of teleprompter material.

DFW

(60,317 posts)
17. In this upcoming election, we should pay more attention to whom they nominate as his VP
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 07:22 AM
Jun 2024

I think that if any of them realistically see a chance of winning the presidential election, it will be with the intention of having Trump disappear (voluntarily or otherwise), William Henry Harrison style (but quicker), after the inauguration, and install the nut case they really wanted in the first place in the Oval Office.

I don't think there is a Republican strategist left who really WANTS Trump as president. But I am confident that there are some who want him to win, so that they can install the VP of their choice as President as soon as Trump discovers his "for reasons of health" within a couple of weeks of being inaugurated. I'm sure that even if he doesn't want to at first, promises of a miracle financial solvency accompanied by a full presidential pardon will bring him around within 15 minutes of the off-the-record conference that will make the decision.

Irish_Dem

(81,869 posts)
21. Yes Trump's VP has a good chance of being president or running the show.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 08:06 AM
Jun 2024

That is why they are groveling so hard to get the job.

Or there is already a band of minders who will run everything behind the scenes.

DFW

(60,317 posts)
24. I tend toward the latter
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 09:00 AM
Jun 2024

Who, in turn, are carefully screening his VP choice who they fully expect to take his place when his "health takes a turn for the worse" right after inauguration. They still need a figurehead who will do do their bidding.

Irish_Dem

(81,869 posts)
28. Oh yes I think you are quite correct.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 10:08 AM
Jun 2024

The minders and power behind the scene people are vetting the VP candidate carefully.

Yes they want a good figurehead who is easier to manage. Who takes direction. But presents well.

Vance might be their man. Desantis is foolish and headstrong. Nikki Haley a bit too independent.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
13. "Remember to pretend that you love American democracy." - G.O.P.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:28 AM
Jun 2024

"That always works with the suckers and losers out there." - G.O.P.

Irish_Dem

(81,869 posts)
20. And accuse Biden of doing all the crimes you commit.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 08:04 AM
Jun 2024

The suckers and losers love that.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
18. Don't fall in love with the "Cognitively Declining Trump" narrative
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 07:52 AM
Jun 2024

Republicans keep fucking themselves with the "feeble old vegetable Biden" fable they tell each other constantly... and that sort of mythological tunnel vision keeps on coming out to bite them in the ass.

Constantly denigrating your opponent till you believe they're incapable of putting up a fight is an amateur's mistake. Arrogance, as Gidget Bobert keeps finding out, always queues up a self inflicted comeuppance.

Trump may be batshit crazy, but please stop telling yourself (and especially quit propagating in Democratic circles the foolish notion) that Trump isn't a wily, malicious sociopath who can play his marks like a fiddle and motivate them to hate, disbelieve objective facts, ignore their own self interests, storm government buildings, and get out to vote. He's learned the art of weaponizing white resentment. He's a one trick pony, but it's a powerful trick.

He's an idiot, but he's still a cornered crafty and dangerous wild animal. Our contempt alone won't be his undoing. We have to fact bomb our neighbors and family members, not ignore his manipulative genius.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
38. Good advice, take note all.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 01:13 PM
Jun 2024

It ain’t over till it’s over and in this case his stench will last years. But the US has to survive the next 8 months or so and the rethugs are totally invested in trump and for him it’s a life and death situation. And many of his followers are equally invested. Don’t underestimate what he and they are capable of.

Aristus

(72,318 posts)
42. I agree.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 03:12 PM
Jun 2024

In 2000, everyone with a brain knew that Al Gore could debate the shit out of George W. Bush.

And he did.

But what we were sold was:

Gore's bad makeup job and heavy sighing.

The wall-to-wall media narrative that Al Gore claimed he invented the internet.

And George W. Bush's child-like glee at finally landing "Fuzzy math", which you knew he had waited all evening for a suitable place to drop it. (Looky, Momma! I got a whole ROW of gold stars!..."

Irish_Dem

(81,869 posts)
49. You are 100% correct.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:51 PM
Jun 2024

Trump is a street smart, cunning and very dangerous sociopath.
We underestimate him at our own peril.

Johnny2X2X

(24,320 posts)
22. The format is awful for Trump
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 08:12 AM
Jun 2024

Trump needs constant feedback to keep talking. Feedback from an audience, or in this case feedback from a debate opponent. He's going to ramble and go way off script. And all of his big moments in the previous debates were on interuptions, the microphone cut is going to take that away.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
26. he's gonna have an earpiece.....
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 09:58 AM
Jun 2024

or a collar speaker. one his stage mic won't pick up.

it's the only way he can say anything on point. he won't even be able to remember a question 5 seconds in otherwise if it is a full sentance long. Usually the questions he gets are just a few words and very simple. f he gets a complex question by a real reporter, he won't understand it.



Irish_Dem

(81,869 posts)
29. They could actually do a better job.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 10:14 AM
Jun 2024

The senators are worthless.

A team of specialists might be able to patch trump together enough to look a bit better. Highly trained specialists.

Arne

(3,609 posts)
30. The microphone placement is critical.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 10:22 AM
Jun 2024

It must be right near the ass crack but not in the diaper.

louis-t

(24,637 posts)
31. Oh, that should go well.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 10:27 AM
Jun 2024

Never had any interest before, but now he's fighting for his life. Maybe they'll try the old 'hidden earpiece' trick again. Or writing the words on his shirt sleeve. Maybe someone will slip him the questions in advance so he can memorize the answers. All the moderators would have to do is ask the questions out of order. That would be hilarious.

Irish_Dem

(81,869 posts)
50. Yes Trump can probably get the questions ahead of time.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:52 PM
Jun 2024

When you are a mob boss you can get whatever you want with no problem.

dslyahoo

(179 posts)
36. Probably fluffing
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 11:44 AM
Jun 2024

The senators might go in thinking that they will brief and may even bring up a couple of talking points. But, in my opinion, it is likely they are spending most of their time massaging TSF’s ego. Remember, the televised staff meetings he had? They all just said how great they thought he was.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
39. Reading thru the comments reinforced my belief that he will make some excuse not to show up.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 01:30 PM
Jun 2024

That won’t matter to his true believers but anyone that still hasn’t decided might start having more doubts about him. The rethugs might finally remember that old adage: better to keep your mouth shut if people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

He will want to go to the debate thinking himself a genius but perhaps this time he’ll take some advice from others. Now that I think about it the rethugs will plant all sorts of crazy ideas in his head in an attempt to get him not to go and these ideas will all come out if he does go or as his excuse not to go.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
52. I'd think that after being President and running for the office twice as long
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 06:03 PM
Jun 2024

he would have some baseline policy knowledge and the fact he doesn't would be a glaring red flag.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
55. His groupies are the same. All they know is part of the second amendment.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 06:24 PM
Jun 2024

But those few who have stayed away but now decide to pay attention will be stunned by his stupidity.

spanone

(141,846 posts)
53. I doubt he does anything to 'prep' for the debates....he knows more than anyone.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 06:08 PM
Jun 2024

...or so he thinks.

moose65

(3,456 posts)
57. Good grief
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 07:27 PM
Jun 2024

Of course he won’t prepare - he thinks he already knows everything, so why should he? And the idea that they are educating him about policy is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Trump doesn’t give two shits about policy. He will answer every question with his talking points and word salad from his campaign speech. And there will be no adoring audience for him to feed on. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t fall asleep.

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