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Link: https://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/biden-needs-to-emasculate-trump
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Steve Schmidt is still an awesome political strategist, and I'm glad he's come over to the good guys!
Walleye
(45,412 posts)spooky3
(38,860 posts)Humiliate, call him a liar, etc. are fine. There is no parallel for a female candidate, which implies that being masculine is a good thing but being feminine is not.
Irish_Dem
(82,312 posts)The tactics may not appeal to everyone.
But by God we are fighting for our freedom, our democracy, and in some cases our lives.
Use whatever works to fight evil.
I would have called Hitler every name in the book if I could have saved any of the
75 million lives lost in WWII.
If I as a woman have to take a ding in the name calling, so be it.
I hope I have enough courage to take a few dings to save lives.
spooky3
(38,860 posts)In order to take Trump down. Thats a false choice. Its not man on man or appropriate any more than implying that undermining someones whiteness (as if that could be done) would demonstrate that they were consequently less suited to be President.
Dark Brandon has done a good job of demonstrating how to hit the target.
misanthrope
(9,627 posts)and worldview revolves around machismo, traditional masculinity and misogyny, I think "emasculate" is precisely what is needed. That would be striking at Trump's weak spot. It will rattle him.
Irish_Dem
(82,312 posts)He can do whatever the hell he needs to do to save our democracy.
And I am damn well not going to get my feelings hurt one bit.
And I am not going to tie his hands behind his back bickering about
his wording.
If he can save our democracy, save lives, save our future,
he has my permission to throw me right under the bus.
I have the guts to take the hit.
I come from a military family which sacrificed a heck of a lot more
than their delicate sensibilities year after year. Some even gave their lives.
The least I can do is suck it in for Joe Biden to fight the good fight.
And fight to win.
brush
(61,033 posts)Where'd you get that from?
Tom of Temecula
(1,632 posts)Thanks for posting.
Johonny
(26,593 posts)Trump looked like his personal servant when they were together.
Irish_Dem
(82,312 posts)where Trump comes out looking like a whipped animal.
misanthrope
(9,627 posts)I think Trump is essentially a coward who backed down in front of someone he is naturally scared of, a KGB veteran who has been trained in ways that intimidate the "grubby real estate hustler masquerading as a big shot, a two-bit playboy who lied his way into the tabloids."
Irish_Dem
(82,312 posts)The look on Trump's face was incredible and very telling.
So was Putin's face and demeanor.
And we know that both Trump and Putin are ruthless narcissists and sociopaths.
I think Trump went in to that meeting, pontificating and on a narc high.
He had believed all the bull shit Putin fed him before the election
about how wonderful Trump was. Trump is very easy to manipulate
with fake flattery.
As soon as Putin was successful in installing Trump into the White House,
Putin had a come to Jesus meeting with Trump, fed him a reality sandwich,
and set forth Trump's marching orders.
In no uncertain terms Putin let Trump know the bill was due and must be paid in full.
And Putin made it perfectly clear how he really felt about Trump, and what would
happen if Trump let him down.
Something along these lines.
It was an ugly sucker punch right to Trump's gut.
calimary
(90,775 posts)I remember the body language. Trump looked like a kid whose dad just took him to the woodshed, and Putin looked like The Man In Complete Control. He had a cocky I got this look on his face.
Irish_Dem
(82,312 posts)I know that some people here hate any kind of educated speculation based on facts.
But it is called the scientific method, and legitimate.
The scenario I outlined is my best educated guess, knowing the well established psych profiles
of both Trump and Putin.
Danascot
(5,292 posts)Something that really struck me is that Putin who is thought to be about 5'-7" came out of the meeting looking much taller and larger than Trump, who claims to be 6'-2" but is actually about 6'-0", still about 5" taller than Putin. It almost looked like a magic trick.
Irish_Dem
(82,312 posts)Putin was stretched out tall, smiling, head up.
So Trump appears to have shrunk, Putin has grown.
Yes almost by magic, but a very real presentation.
Putin must have given Trump a real ass kicking.
Good catch.
rubbersole
(11,277 posts)Awe and subjugation were probably the least of it.
Irish_Dem
(82,312 posts)Trump looked sucker punched in the gut.
And yes Putin is the richest man in the world.
Perhaps worth $300 billion.
Not bad for a poor KGB agent.
When you are a mob boss over a country with a lot of oil,
you skim all the profits even if it means many Russians do not have indoor plumping
outside of Moscow.
doc03
(39,178 posts)low for him to try. He walked back and forth behind Hillary, wouldn't shut up with Biden and
knew he had COVID.
JI7
(93,900 posts)they need to show him as a loser. Bring up things like the business failures and needing to pay for sex.
KS Toronado
(23,862 posts)Who's the President of XXX? Who's the minority leader in the XXX , who was before them? Who was your 2nd
Secretary of XXX? Quick how much is 12 x 12?
FakeNoose
(42,391 posts)This format doesn't allow the participants to directly interact with each other. If Chump should suddenly start talking directly to Biden (or vice versa) his mic will be shut off.
KS Toronado
(23,862 posts)can this truly be called a "debate", it's more like .....please answer our predetermined questions we gave you
a list of before today. I'd much rather see the moderator's only job as turning mics off and on.
Let's see them go after each other so voters can see who's informed and can think on their feet.
TSF would look like the idiot he is and Biden would look Presidential.
FakeNoose
(42,391 posts)Joe could really kick Chump's butt if he got the chance.
He could do a Rope-A-Dope, then a Pile Driver, and Chump would be screaming for mercy.
wiggs
(8,849 posts)complain about format and media in general, declare he wishes this was a real debate because Biden wouldn't stand a chance, say the public deserves better, and storm off the stage in protest because he 'doesn't need any of this' to win.
He won't risk looking like the selfish idiot he actually is.
MurrayDelph
(5,776 posts)what I think should be literal.
Aristus
(72,515 posts)a dickless wonderboy. One would assume that he would never have appealed to the baseball-cap-and-rat's-nest-beard-wearing schmucks of red state America. But one would have been wrong, of course.
FakeNoose
(42,391 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 21, 2024, 12:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Chump's Dad paid a friendly doctor in New York, and I think the weaselly doctor came up with the "bone spurs" idea.
What made the red-staters love Chump wasn't the whining, it was the racism. AND the fact that American voters elevated a Black man to the White House. If that hadn't happened in 2008, I don't think the red-staters would have lost their minds over Chump.
Aristus
(72,515 posts)A bunch of lazy-ass white boys who were pissed that they lost their free work force. And the only work they could be persuaded to do was tie nooses.
appmanga
(1,530 posts)...on his characterization of the race. As more people tune in to the race, the more it starts to tilt toward Biden.
Yes, Biden should emasculate Trump, but not in a bombastic way. Joe Biden needs to be the prosecutor in the courtroom making the final argument, concisely, emphatically, but always in control. The litany of Trump abuses is too long to focus on too many, so hit the big four: being a convicted felon; being an insurrectionist; being unable to accept reality/responsibility; and being anti-American. Talk about how those last three have directly hurt the people of this country. The inability to accept the reality of COVID killed people. The inability to accept the results of the election has divided the country and caused the gullible to be incarcerated. The embrace of dictators has emboldened Putin and Xi and their ilk.
But Trump can't be the whole focus. People are still hurting in this good economy. What's the message for them? Talk about the achievements that have been drowned out by the circus of the Trump Show and the media that salivates over covering it while claiming to detest it. Don't fall into the trap of being a guest star in Trump's bullshit anti-reality show. Talk about the work that remains to be done and how having more Democrats in the Congress will make that happen. Don't let this be all about Trump. If it is, he wins.
FakeNoose
(42,391 posts)I believe Joe Biden is, and always has been, a good guy and he'd never want to emasculate anyone. "Emasculate" is Steve Schmidt's word, and he's the type of political analyst who thinks that way. When he worked for Repukes, that was his style even then.
But now he's left the Dark Side, and he's trying to use the Force to help the good guys. I know I'm simplifying this, but Steve's being Steve and most Democrats are nicer than Steve. In a way I appreciate the lesson he's giving us, that maybe we shouldn't worry about being mean once in a while.
Joe's regular debating style will be just fine for next week. He can throw a zinger when he feels like it, like ... "Will you just SHUT UP man?"
That one went a long way four years ago.
karynnj
(61,093 posts)My knee-jerk response to the op was the same as yours .. although I could not have expressed all you did. In addition to all you say, your advise strongly attacks Trump without getting in the pig style with him.
A problem with the advise in the op is that it moves the contest into Trump's field rather than remaining reasonable, presidential and above the mud.
gulliver
(14,075 posts)I think Biden and the Biden Team have a very good understanding of the electorate and the ebb and flow of politics. Trump's strategy is "gimmick of the day plus classics." Biden's is more like the methodical isolation, trapping, and disposal of a pest animal. All while Biden is effortlessly being an example of the best a President can be.
I do think it's important to emasculate Trump. His entire masculinity, as I've said before, is in his hairdo, makeup, and vocal register. Real men, in my book, think Trump is a fat wuss. Biden's a man; Trump isn't. That's why Biden can get a good woman and Trump can't.
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