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Raven123

(7,894 posts)
1. I disagree. He is the candidate. You debate the candidate
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 04:39 PM
Jun 2024

We all know TFG would say Joe is too old and demented to debate him. Now to be clear they will claim Joe is too old and demented to be POTUS, but everyone gets to see them side by side.

bucolic_frolic

(55,805 posts)
2. Agree. But Biden's team wanted the debates out of the way early.
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 04:39 PM
Jun 2024

And despite the hype, the deep public is not focused on this at this time.

I expect the Biden team will deliver prominent points about Biden's success, Trump's record, Trump's convictions, and Trump's 2025 fusion. That's all they have to do. No risks, no off-message, and limited barbs at Trump to see how it plays.

If this gets too out of hand, Biden could pull out of September's debate.

WarGamer

(18,859 posts)
3. Since they're turning off mics...
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 04:42 PM
Jun 2024

I think we'll see prepared statements on both sides without a lot of "off the cuff" moments...

Might be boring actually.

2naSalit

(103,806 posts)
4. This could be the time...
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 04:48 PM
Jun 2024

When pendejo45 actually bursts into flames!

He can't contain himself, he'll be jumping up and down, waving his arms all over while his mic is off. When it's his turn, he'll be boiling over about some jab made by Biden that he'll end up looking, for all the world to see, like the hot mess he really is. That's probably why Biden is okay with him having the last statement.

If it weren't the presidential debate, it could almost be called abuse of the infirm.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
10. I'm thinking every statement by Joe should end in a dig at Trump over his idiocy. Like speaking on an
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:52 PM
Jun 2024

accomplishment or plan, "while Donald is babbling about low flow toilets".

"We ended the pandemic and not by chugging bleach." Stuff like that every time to bait Trump into going off and wasting his time denying or defending shit everyone saw. He may not even remember many things if he's as bad as we think.

2naSalit

(103,806 posts)
13. I'm expecting a serious meltdown..
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:56 PM
Jun 2024

Right there on the stage, maybe leave in an ambulance.

wnylib

(26,454 posts)
8. If they make prepared statements, those statements would have to be memorized.
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:33 PM
Jun 2024

Debate rules say that they cannot bring written notes or statements to the debate..

They are allowed to have a pencil (or pen?) and a pad for taking notes during the debate, but cannot bring written material with them.

WarGamer

(18,859 posts)
9. Usually they will break it down into sections
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jun 2024

1) Economy, talking points 1-4

2) Immigration, talking points 1-3

3) Democracy, talking points 1-4

4) Foreign affairs, talking points 1-5

And throw in prepared and practiced Zinger line as desired.

They don't need to memorize... just remember an outline. In other words... Trump will be ranting and screaming.

Rebl2

(17,925 posts)
15. I heard all
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 06:17 PM
Jun 2024

they can have at their podium is a blank piece of paper, pen and glass of water. Don’t know if true though. I think I heard it on either WBBM radio or npr.

Walleye

(45,410 posts)
6. "Donald, would you please explain the thing about the shark in the electric boat again most people didn't quite grasp it
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 04:52 PM
Jun 2024

Joe is certainly not gonna let a convicted felon bully him into taking a drug test for crying out loud

wiggs

(8,849 posts)
11. Campaign should release statements about what to expect from Trump: ...'more whining, victimhood, unfounded
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:53 PM
Jun 2024

accusations, lies, anger, racism, chaos...stuff we are all sick of. Highly doubtful the twice impeached, convicted felon has the interest in or knowledge of policy issues and it's unlikely he will participate in policy discussion. Sad.'

Steal the thunder ahead of time...make him try to be unpredictable and emphasize policy.

Johonny

(26,593 posts)
12. No, Bidens problem is he need to kill the narrative
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:56 PM
Jun 2024

That he's too old. He need to get out in public more and this is a perfect opportunity to perform live. What Donald does almost doesn't matter. Biden isn't debating Trump so much as he's performing to the home audience.

bigtree

(94,667 posts)
16. too bad there wasn't already some sort of speech he could have given the nation
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 06:26 PM
Jun 2024

..which would clearly show that the age issue is bullshit, like an address before Congress or something.

This debate is actually to show the nation how much more looney and unfit Trump has become, and provide the contrast.

The narrative is a 78 year-old convicted felon, twice impeached presidential election loser (to Biden), against the most experienced man in the nation for the job with a proven record of successes and promises kept.

To go to this thing thinking he has to dispel something that doesn't exist would be the lowest of expectations out of this event.

Torchlight

(7,053 posts)
17. I think his inherent status as a convicted felon brings shame only to Mr. trump.
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 06:53 PM
Jun 2024

Pres. Biden loses nothing from the appearance, retains his status as a just, decent, and fair man, and avoids any negative narratives that would neccesarily be a by-product of refusing to show.

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