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RandySF

(84,260 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:12 PM Jun 2024

NY-16: Bowman's taking it well.






David Weigel
@daveweigel
Bowman conceding defeat tonight: "We should be outraged when a super PAC of dark money can spend $20 million to brainwash people into believing something that isn’t true."
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NY-16: Bowman's taking it well. (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2024 OP
Am I allowed to say he won't be missed? madaboutharry Jun 2024 #1
Maybe not. nycbos Jun 2024 #4
Thanks for helping. madaboutharry Jun 2024 #9
I think the best way to phrase it Pototan Jun 2024 #38
Wow, proof that this was a fantastic win. He is the one trying Nixie Jun 2024 #2
EXACTLY right Nixie... democratsruletheday Jun 2024 #25
I think what Bowman is doing Pototan Jun 2024 #37
Sucks when it's Russia Bok_Tukalo Jun 2024 #3
Are you suggesting RandySF Jun 2024 #5
I mean, we actually know who spent millions on him, right? Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #10
Jewish Americans!!! OMG how scary!!! tritsofme Jun 2024 #13
Specifically the PAC that supports Trump and election deniers Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #35
The one where Joe Biden and Hakeem Jeffries are amongst the biggest recipients? tritsofme Jun 2024 #36
If I recall correctly isn't our President Joe Biden the biggest recipient all time of AIPAC money? nt kelly1mm Jun 2024 #52
PACs aren't a good thing Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #48
Bowman held a fundraiser in VA with Nihad Awad, who is actively working to defeat President Biden. lapucelle Jun 2024 #58
What Exactly are you saying? Bowman Lost Because of Cha Jun 2024 #15
I probably would've voted for Bowman if I was in his district, yet everything you say is true ColinC Jun 2024 #29
TY for looking at the reality.. I would have voted for Cha Jun 2024 #31
Keep working on it JoseBalow Jun 2024 #40
American Jews are not Israel and have a right to their opinion and to spend their money as they choose. Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #78
Guess Hillary was right, again Deuxcents Jun 2024 #6
All this weirdo is proving is that the Democratic voters in that district are incredibly wise and willing to acknowledge tritsofme Jun 2024 #7
Correct... democratsruletheday Jun 2024 #27
Yeesh, what a crybaby DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #8
So the PAC that loves Trump and election deniers Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #11
You mean the PAC that Joe Biden and Hakeem Jeffries are top recipients of? tritsofme Jun 2024 #14
And, Nancy Pelosi! Cha Jun 2024 #16
AIPAC strongly supported Bowman before. Igel Jun 2024 #18
But, but, but they only support Republicans LeftInTX Jun 2024 #90
Latimer also endorsed by a Jewish PAC RandySF Jun 2024 #19
nope. saying that voter disenchantment in all likelihood stopdiggin Jun 2024 #20
I'm going to guess that the firefighters Pototan Jun 2024 #39
Radical idea Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #49
Isn't that the PAC that has given the most donations to (checks notes ....) President Biden? nt kelly1mm Jun 2024 #54
Bowman raised funds with Nihad Awad whose mission is to defeat President Biden. lapucelle Jun 2024 #59
+1 betsuni Jun 2024 #60
I guess some PACS are better than other PACS, and some money is darker than other money? It would seem to be... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2024 #62
As I knew he would.. "dark money" dark money" dark money" Cha Jun 2024 #12
Seriously? Tesha Jun 2024 #17
It was a closed primary RandySF Jun 2024 #21
And, many didn't like that Bowman voted Against Cha Jun 2024 #24
Joe Biden and Hakeem Jeffries are top AIPAC recipients. This narrative is ridiculous. tritsofme Jun 2024 #22
Is it really? Tesha Jun 2024 #26
The recipient of the most AIPAC money of all time is ........ President Biden. Just saying! nt kelly1mm Jun 2024 #55
And is that a good thing??? Tesha Jun 2024 #63
I don't see anything nefarious in that fact, why do you? tritsofme Jun 2024 #66
because money is not speech!!! Tesha Jun 2024 #73
Perhaps some people, AIPAC donations haven't corrupted President Biden or Leader Jeffries. tritsofme Jun 2024 #74
It's a shame that PACS have the influence that they have. choie Jun 2024 #28
NO.. Bowman Lost Because of Bowman. Cha Jun 2024 #23
That "solid Dem" voted against the infrastructure bill. NT Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #34
Yes, Voted w MAGA. And voted w MAGA against raising the debt ceiling, risking shutdown. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #77
Here's a thought. pink Jun 2024 #44
I don't think our President Biden, the biggest recipient of all time of AIPAC contributions, would kelly1mm Jun 2024 #56
Sea change in the democratic party Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #51
Quite True, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2024 #68
Wasn't that promoted by some people in regards to Nixon back then... electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #83
The Comintern's Slogan In 1933 The Magistrate Jun 2024 #84
Woah! electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #87
Who wants Latimer to lose in November? LeftInTX Jun 2024 #89
Stop attacking Democrats and the Us (progressives, good) vs Them (establishment, centrist, bad) betsuni Jun 2024 #88
ah yes. the fire alarm ProfessorPlum Jun 2024 #70
So uh...no thoughts on his rape denial, 9/11 trutherism, or the other things mentioned by the poster? tritsofme Jun 2024 #71
Good luck getting a reply. orange jar Jun 2024 #75
I did mention two other pretty egregious issues Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #79
Mahalo for this, DG. Cha Jun 2024 #76
yes. yes we did ProfessorPlum Jun 2024 #69
Sore loser. nt LexVegas Jun 2024 #30
George Latimers' Excellent CNN interview! Cha Jun 2024 #32
Blame Jewish money. How original. NT Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #33
Yeah, Not looking at himself and why he may have lost so badly. Cha Jun 2024 #41
Most expensive House primary ever krawhitham Jun 2024 #43
Don't care. When a candidate loses... Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #65
A) he won't be missed, b) He's not wrong krawhitham Jun 2024 #42
Bowman wants everyone "outraged" like he is.. maybe if Cha Jun 2024 #45
Anyone see the ads that "brainwashed" everyone? What wasn't true? What's the conspiracy theory? betsuni Jun 2024 #46
+++ Cha Jun 2024 #47
"What is not being reported and considered by the MSM and far left advocates.. " Cha Jun 2024 #50
That's what an article I saw said, most ads were about the infrastructure bill and other votes. betsuni Jun 2024 #53
How do you brainwash with facts? Cha Jun 2024 #57
Best news I've heard all week, and it's only Tuesday!!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2024 #61
I'm Over the Moon, Tarheel.. I wanted Cha Jun 2024 #72
And he pulled in the heaviest of heavy hitters on the progressive wing, and it still didn't didn't help. It would... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2024 #80
Every time. their Go To. Cha Jun 2024 #81
If he has a political future, he should have learned a lesson. kentuck Jun 2024 #64
The differences between the two parties Red Mountain Jun 2024 #67
I am amused that Bowman thinks that it is okay for him to use dark money but not anyone else LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #82
An AIPAC cash dump can nudge the needle 1-2 % points Tarc Jun 2024 #85
"The Real Reason Bowman Lost" From someone in his District Who Tried To Help him When he First Won in 2020 Cha Jun 2024 #86
That's how to do politics! betsuni Jun 2024 #91
Well put, betsuni! Especially this part and everything else... Cha Jun 2024 #92
If Latimer had a 17 point lead before AIPAC aired ads, why the "brainwashing" hysteria? betsuni Jun 2024 #93
Yeah, it is "instultig".. that's why Cha Jun 2024 #94

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
1. Am I allowed to say he won't be missed?
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:14 PM
Jun 2024

Because if it’s against the rules I won’t say it.

Pototan

(3,132 posts)
38. I think the best way to phrase it
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 12:44 AM
Jun 2024

is that "I'm so glad Latimer won. He is a fierce supporter of Joe Biden."
'

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
2. Wow, proof that this was a fantastic win. He is the one trying
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:15 PM
Jun 2024

to brainwash. He had every advantage as an incumbent.

democratsruletheday

(1,880 posts)
25. EXACTLY right Nixie...
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:15 PM
Jun 2024

and he blew it. Was a crappy rep for his district and humiliated himself by pulling a fire alarm. BUH BYE.....

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
35. Specifically the PAC that supports Trump and election deniers
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 12:03 AM
Jun 2024

at a very high rate. I don't care what their religion/ethnicity is. I just need to know that MAGA loves them and they love MAGA.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
36. The one where Joe Biden and Hakeem Jeffries are amongst the biggest recipients?
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 12:06 AM
Jun 2024

Very scary!

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
52. If I recall correctly isn't our President Joe Biden the biggest recipient all time of AIPAC money? nt
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:42 AM
Jun 2024

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
48. PACs aren't a good thing
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:20 AM
Jun 2024

but they spend on every election. Why is this one receiving all the hysteria?

"AIPAC" is the new "ZIONIST" in dog whistle circles.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
58. Bowman held a fundraiser in VA with Nihad Awad, who is actively working to defeat President Biden.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 06:28 AM
Jun 2024
Context:

White House Disavows U.S. Islamic Group After Leader’s Oct. 7 Remarks

The director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said in a speech that he was “was happy to see” Palestinians break out of Gaza on the day Hamas attacked Israel.

The White House disavowed an American-Islamic advocacy organization on Thursday after the group’s director declared that he “was happy to see” Palestinians break out of Gaza on Oct. 7, the day of the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel that killed an estimated 1,200 people and led to the seizure of 240 others as hostages.

A spokesman for President Biden condemned the remarks by Nihad Awad, the national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, who declared in a speech that Palestinians in Gaza “have the right to self-defense” but that Israel “as an occupying We condemn these shocking, antisemitic statements in the strongest terms,” said Mr. Biden’s spokesman, Andrew Bates. “The horrific, brutal terrorist attacks committed by Hamas on Oct. 7 were, as President Biden said, ‘abhorrent’ and represent ‘unadulterated evil.’” Mr. Bates added that the atrocities of that day “shock the conscience” and said that “every leader has a responsibility to call out antisemitism wherever it rears its ugly head.power” does not. Mr. Awad said his comments were being misconstrued.

“We condemn these shocking, antisemitic statements in the strongest terms,” said Mr. Biden’s spokesman, Andrew Bates. “The horrific, brutal terrorist attacks committed by Hamas on Oct. 7 were, as President Biden said, ‘abhorrent’ and represent ‘unadulterated evil.’” Mr. Bates added that the atrocities of that day “shock the conscience” and said that “every leader has a responsibility to call out antisemitism wherever it rears its ugly head.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/us/politics/white-house-cair-nihad-awad.html

============================

Arab American Fury Toward Biden

[Nihad Awad] doesn’t only want Biden to be politically corrected; he wants him politically crushed.

Of the president, Awad says, “I don’t think he can continue to lead our country.” When I asked if there is anything Biden can do to change his mind, Awad said, “He can retire.”

snip-----------------------------------

Awad said he doesn’t like Trump and doesn’t welcome a second Trump term, but he’s prepared to accept that outcome for the sake of punishing Biden. “I’m going to live under Trump, because I survived under Trump, because he’s my enemy,” he says. “I cannot live under someone who pretends to be my friend.”

He believes that proving a point about the power of the Muslim vote is worth it. “Is it going to be painful? Four more years under Trump?” he asks. “I say yes, and we are bracing for it,” adding, “At least what I have accomplished is, I told every politician, ‘Don’t take us out of the equation, because you will miss.’”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/opinion/voters-michigan-biden-gaza.html


Cha

(319,067 posts)
15. What Exactly are you saying? Bowman Lost Because of
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:36 PM
Jun 2024

Bowman.

He lost touch with his Constituents. Now he's burring bridges with them.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
29. I probably would've voted for Bowman if I was in his district, yet everything you say is true
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:27 PM
Jun 2024

There’s no way he didn’t bring this on himself.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
31. TY for looking at the reality.. I would have voted for
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:36 PM
Jun 2024

George Latimer, of course.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
78. American Jews are not Israel and have a right to their opinion and to spend their money as they choose.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:33 PM
Jun 2024

Bowman refused to condemn Hamas and likely would have lost the seat.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
7. All this weirdo is proving is that the Democratic voters in that district are incredibly wise and willing to acknowledge
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:26 PM
Jun 2024

their own mistakes.

democratsruletheday

(1,880 posts)
27. Correct...
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:16 PM
Jun 2024

at this point it's just the lament of a LOSER. Take your beating and move on Bowman.

DinahMoeHum

(23,604 posts)
8. Yeesh, what a crybaby
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:27 PM
Jun 2024

Duuuuude, too many questionable stances in too short a tenure in Congress is what led to your ouster.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
11. So the PAC that loves Trump and election deniers
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:29 PM
Jun 2024

doesn't cause you any concern? Cool cool cool.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
18. AIPAC strongly supported Bowman before.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:54 PM
Jun 2024

Donated beaucoup to his campaign.

This was at the time of "Trump and the election deniers."

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
20. nope. saying that voter disenchantment in all likelihood
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:59 PM
Jun 2024

did NOT stem from 'lies'. But, rather - plain old job performance.
(plus they had someone on hand that they felt was an able replacement .. )

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Pototan

(3,132 posts)
39. I'm going to guess that the firefighters
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 12:52 AM
Jun 2024

in Bowman's district didn't support him. Pulling the fire alarm is hard to explain. And the firefighter's national union was the first to endorse Biden.

As a retired agent that worked in a trade union, Bowman's opposition to Biden's infrastructure plan, with Davis-Bacon included was my biggest issue.

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
49. Radical idea
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:24 AM
Jun 2024

Bowman would have lost even without AIPAC money in this particular election. He was a 9-11 conspiracy theorist, voted against the infrastructure bill (much to his constituents frustration) and pulled a fire alarm and lied about it in the capitol.

That doesn't include his gross rape denial re: Israel, which infuriated his local jewish population.

He is a bad candidate and solidified that in the last 8 months. BYE.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
54. Isn't that the PAC that has given the most donations to (checks notes ....) President Biden? nt
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:45 AM
Jun 2024

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
59. Bowman raised funds with Nihad Awad whose mission is to defeat President Biden.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 06:34 AM
Jun 2024

High dollar fundraiser at a private home in VA. Dark money can't get any darker than that.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
62. I guess some PACS are better than other PACS, and some money is darker than other money? It would seem to be...
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 07:20 AM
Jun 2024

the only explanation for those screaming about the "dark money" strawman. Bowman and his allies could've chosen to lose with dignity, instead they've chosen to blame everyone but Bowman. Go figure.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
12. As I knew he would.. "dark money" dark money" dark money"
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:31 PM
Jun 2024

Bowman lost because of Bowman.. he lost touch with his Constituents.

Tesha

(21,141 posts)
17. Seriously?
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:52 PM
Jun 2024

80% of the money spent in this race is from AIPAC

Republican funded! Was this all about funding Israel???
Did we lose a solid Dem for a man who is supported by R's?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/09/aipac-republican-donors-democratic-primaries-00162404

RandySF

(84,260 posts)
21. It was a closed primary
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:00 PM
Jun 2024

Only Democrats voted. Bowman ended his own political career when he called Oct. 7 “propaganda”.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
24. And, many didn't like that Bowman voted Against
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:08 PM
Jun 2024

Pres Biden's Infrastructure Bill.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
22. Joe Biden and Hakeem Jeffries are top AIPAC recipients. This narrative is ridiculous.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:01 PM
Jun 2024
 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
55. The recipient of the most AIPAC money of all time is ........ President Biden. Just saying! nt
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:48 AM
Jun 2024

Tesha

(21,141 posts)
73. because money is not speech!!!
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 03:28 PM
Jun 2024

Money in politics corrupts.

It corrupts the system, it corrupts people, it corrupts decisions.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
74. Perhaps some people, AIPAC donations haven't corrupted President Biden or Leader Jeffries.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 03:34 PM
Jun 2024

Nor George Latimer.

choie

(6,905 posts)
28. It's a shame that PACS have the influence that they have.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:21 PM
Jun 2024

I don’t care who they support.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
23. NO.. Bowman Lost Because of Bowman.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:06 PM
Jun 2024

he lost touch with his Constituents.. and they wanted someone who represented them.

Even the Yonkers Times Endorsed George Latimer.. Bowman's hometown.

DEMOCRATS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF BOWMAN, EMBRACE LATIMER

https://yonkerstimes.com/democrats-have-had-enough-of-bowman-embrace-latimer/

pink

(532 posts)
44. Here's a thought.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 01:41 AM
Jun 2024

Why doesn't AIPAC donate all their money directly to Israel instead of the US taxpayer. By doing that, they're not interfering with the election process and the money saved could be spent on health, infrastructure and housing.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
56. I don't think our President Biden, the biggest recipient of all time of AIPAC contributions, would
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:51 AM
Jun 2024

look to kindly on such a plan.

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
51. Sea change in the democratic party
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:33 AM
Jun 2024

the voting public is frustrated with the fringe left, and he's one of the most prominent representatives who could be classified as such. He promoted a 9-11 conspiracy on his blog in the past. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ny-rep-jamaal-bowman-promoted-911-conspiracy-theories-on-blog]

He was charged for pulling a fire alarm in congress: https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/politics/bowman-charged-pulling-fire-alarm/index.html]

And he was forced to apologize for denying rapes and violence against the Jewish victims on October 7th https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/26/congress/funding-bridge-rebuild-federal-baltimore-transportation-00149081]

Democrats are tired of crazy divisiveness in our politics and they voted accordingly.

Seeing as how Republicans kept Boebert in, they're crazy, it looks like only one party is interesting in calming the rhetoric.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
68. Quite True, Sir
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 09:55 AM
Jun 2024

And certainly Democratic voters would have more patience with the 'fringe left' if it ceased attacking Democrats. This feeling is aggravated by the tendency of fringe figures to proclaim they represent the base of the party. It annoys the people the Party can actually count on to turn out and vote for its candidates every time.

Through modern political history there runs a red thread of those furthest to the left taking for their chief foe the center-left, rather than the far right. Radical aims can be achieved only when the whole left is united by radical leadership, and so until such unity is achieved, radical leadership sees little point in fighting the far right. Sometimes this course comes with an extra spice: the idea that actual rule by the far right will drive the masses towards radical leadership and ignite a revolution they will lead. A precondition for this is destruction of center-left parties, and as this is an aim of the right as well, the far left will happily cooperate with the far right in attaining this goal.


"They believed nothing they could not prove, and could prove anything they believed."

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
83. Wasn't that promoted by some people in regards to Nixon back then...
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 09:36 PM
Jun 2024

Let Humphrey lose, Nixon's in, and "The Revolution" will come.

It was the first Presidential Election I was following at 15 yrs old.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
89. Who wants Latimer to lose in November?
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 01:52 AM
Jun 2024

Isn't that what Susan Saranwrap and Michael Moore wanted in 2016? Let Hillary lose, Trump will bring a revolution.

betsuni

(29,076 posts)
88. Stop attacking Democrats and the Us (progressives, good) vs Them (establishment, centrist, bad)
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 12:31 AM
Jun 2024

divisiveness that only helps Republicans (which media often repeats), understand the base, understand that the majority of Americans are not secretly far left socialists yearning for revolution but the evil Democratic establishment is hoodwinking them. It is not too much to ask!

ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts)
70. ah yes. the fire alarm
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 02:14 PM
Jun 2024

glad we are choosing our representatives based on such excellent, relevant reasons.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
71. So uh...no thoughts on his rape denial, 9/11 trutherism, or the other things mentioned by the poster?
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 02:18 PM
Jun 2024

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
79. I did mention two other pretty egregious issues
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 06:26 PM
Jun 2024

that you chose to ignore while mocking the fire alarm.

He has a pattern of egregious behavior devaluing his constituents and the institutions in which he serves.

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
65. Don't care. When a candidate loses...
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 08:00 AM
Jun 2024

… and blames the spending against them, you have a shitty candidate.

His reaction, and the reaction of many of his supporters isn’t to consider that maybe he pissed off a lot of constituents, but to blame Jewish money. Dem voters aren’t stupid. They don’t vote by this margin based just on ads. Bowman’s positions alienated many of the Dems in the district. It’s that simple.

“Squad” types can learn from that, or blame Jews.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
45. Bowman wants everyone "outraged" like he is.. maybe if
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 01:51 AM
Jun 2024

he had paid more attention to his Constituents he wouldn't have lost by so much.

The Yonkers Times Endorsed George Latimer.. Bowman's hometown.

DEMOCRATS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF BOWMAN, EMBRACE LATIMER

https://yonkerstimes.com/democrats-have-had-enough-of-bowman-embrace-latimer/

betsuni

(29,076 posts)
46. Anyone see the ads that "brainwashed" everyone? What wasn't true? What's the conspiracy theory?
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 03:27 AM
Jun 2024

betsuni

(29,076 posts)
53. That's what an article I saw said, most ads were about the infrastructure bill and other votes.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:43 AM
Jun 2024

Wonder how that "brainwashed" anyone.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
57. How do you brainwash with facts?
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:57 AM
Jun 2024

Mt Vernon is where George was born. I didn't know it was a Diverse city until I read this tweet..

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
80. And he pulled in the heaviest of heavy hitters on the progressive wing, and it still didn't didn't help. It would...
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 07:40 PM
Jun 2024

appear that some of their influence is on the wane, so they trot out the old "dark money" conspiracy.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
64. If he has a political future, he should have learned a lesson.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 07:59 AM
Jun 2024

Be careful of the enemies that you make.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,823 posts)
82. I am amused that Bowman thinks that it is okay for him to use dark money but not anyone else
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 08:52 PM
Jun 2024

I am on the Justice Democrat mail email list and I was getting four or five emails a day pleading for money for Just Us Democrats. How is the dark money from Justice Democrats, DSA, Our Revolution, and Sunrise any better than the money from other sources?







I have gotten five or six emails today asking for money for other Justice Democrats

Cha

(319,067 posts)
86. "The Real Reason Bowman Lost" From someone in his District Who Tried To Help him When he First Won in 2020
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 10:14 PM
Jun 2024

Last edited Wed Jun 26, 2024, 10:52 PM - Edit history (1)


betsuni

(29,076 posts)
91. That's how to do politics!
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 02:32 AM
Jun 2024

Seems to be confusion sometimes about what the job is. It's not personal activism or following the agenda of national organizations instead of acting independently on behalf of your constituents (infrastructure bill says hey), picking and choosing which constituents are deemed worthy of attention (and knowing where your district is!), especially not insulting constituents!

Name-calling and demonizing divisiveness should stop.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
92. Well put, betsuni! Especially this part and everything else...
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 05:55 AM
Jun 2024
(infrastructure bill says hey),

Yes, "not insulting constituents by not showing up for them".. and so many Jewish Constituents(Ovvious!).. not calling Oct 7 "Propaganda.

Bowman reverses after calling reports of Oct. 7 sexual assaults in Israel ‘propaganda’

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/26/congress/bowman-house-israel-october-7-sexual-assault-hamas-00148426




betsuni

(29,076 posts)
93. If Latimer had a 17 point lead before AIPAC aired ads, why the "brainwashing" hysteria?
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 06:36 AM
Jun 2024

AIPAC is somehow buying elections where the person already has a 17 point lead? It's offensive to suggest that Democratic voters are mindless nincompoops hypnotized by magical ads.

I don't get the big conspiracy. And the people going on about Latimer suddenly turning into a Republican because a PAC ran ads are being ridiculous. But talking points are talking points. Knock yourselves out!

Cha

(319,067 posts)
94. Yeah, it is "instultig".. that's why
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 05:33 PM
Jun 2024

I mentioned that Bowman is burring bridges in District 16 with that accusation.

People can Think for themselfves!

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