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Baitball Blogger

(52,300 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:56 PM Jun 2024

No f*****g way should we change the Democratic candidate for the presidential election.

It HAS to be Joe Biden. Look how difficult it was to get people to galvanize and vote for Hillary Clinton after the primary in 2016. Our party was divided, there were hard feelings that had to be resolved.

If you change the candidate now, we are going to see what happens in Florida with the Democratic candidates. Not enough name recognition, not enough connection with the person's platform and under the least worst scenario, people will not show up to vote because they are not convinced.

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No f*****g way should we change the Democratic candidate for the presidential election. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2024 OP
Also, a "new" candidate would Island Blue Jun 2024 #1
Right. So I hope the pundits stop pushing the concept of talking to Biden as in hoping he'll step down. Baitball Blogger Jun 2024 #5
It would be a mess. How would a new candidate be chosen, and by whom? Ocelot II Jun 2024 #2
The only one that would make sense is Kamala Harris standingtall Jun 2024 #8
Or it goes to the convention and other candidates compete with Harris. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #15
Erased Melon Jun 2024 #17
Andrew Yang is posting for his removal Melon Jun 2024 #3
No one here cares what Andrew Yang thinks. shrike3 Jun 2024 #6
Who is Andrew Yang? Baitball Blogger Jun 2024 #9
Certain people think he's important for some reason. shrike3 Jun 2024 #11
Yang can go piss up a rope. oasis Jun 2024 #12
Andrew Yang is not among the people whose opinions I value. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #19
It would have to be Joe's decision. mzmolly Jun 2024 #4
Thats the only way quakerboy Jun 2024 #20
If not Joe renthalwinston Jun 2024 #7
I don't think they should--big Biden fan here-- EndlessWire Jun 2024 #24
I suspect exactly no one who matters actually said that DarthDem Jun 2024 #28
So you want to lose Tribetime Jun 2024 #10
I'd say YOU want to lose if you're pushing for a new candidate. Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #35
Agreed. That would be political suicide... DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #13
I agree. It is way too late. orange jar Jun 2024 #14
It's too late at this point. alarimer Jun 2024 #16
OMFG Diraven Jun 2024 #18
Does he have a cold? Baitball Blogger Jun 2024 #21
It's been mentioned, but I'm not sure by whom. shrike3 Jun 2024 #23
Yes campaign said he has a cold. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #26
The calls for a replacement for Joe come from Vogon_Glory Jun 2024 #22
If the media would stop harping on it we would not be having these discussions, I think yellowdogintexas Jun 2024 #32
Let's not go there. Grins Jun 2024 #25
That's crazy talk, but Trump is terrified of Biden so consider the source. liberalmuse Jun 2024 #27
Anyone peddling that here should be outright banned. edisdead Jun 2024 #29
Agreed cjoki4 Jun 2024 #31
The very thought is something the plutocrats requested Mersky Jun 2024 #30
tfg has some more big fuckups coming his way. C Moon Jun 2024 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2024 #34

Baitball Blogger

(52,300 posts)
5. Right. So I hope the pundits stop pushing the concept of talking to Biden as in hoping he'll step down.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:02 PM
Jun 2024

If you're going to talk to Biden, do it only to offer him a Red Bull. No other reason at this point.

Ocelot II

(130,439 posts)
2. It would be a mess. How would a new candidate be chosen, and by whom?
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:59 PM
Jun 2024

Primaries are over; it would have to be at the convention the old-fashioned way, but how could it even be done without dividing the party and causing all sorts of chaos?

standingtall

(3,148 posts)
8. The only one that would make sense is Kamala Harris
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:02 PM
Jun 2024

and Biden would not only have to end his campaign, but resign the Presidency and that would still be a bad idea.

Ocelot II

(130,439 posts)
15. Or it goes to the convention and other candidates compete with Harris.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:07 PM
Jun 2024

Either way it would be a mess.

Ocelot II

(130,439 posts)
19. Andrew Yang is not among the people whose opinions I value.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:08 PM
Jun 2024

He can fuck right off.

 

renthalwinston

(18 posts)
7. If not Joe
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:02 PM
Jun 2024

Then who? MSNBC was saying that some in the Democratic Party were talking of replacing Joe..oh my..

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
24. I don't think they should--big Biden fan here--
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:33 PM
Jun 2024

but Harris/Obama might be acceptable. Obama can run for VP if he lives in a different state from Harris, and he is highly, highly respected. Repubs would shit a brick. It would destroy all the lies Trump told courting the Black vote tonight.

DarthDem

(5,461 posts)
28. I suspect exactly no one who matters actually said that
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:22 AM
Jun 2024

Anyone who did is not a serious person. So Biden was hoarse. Big deal!

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
13. Agreed. That would be political suicide...
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:05 PM
Jun 2024

Anyway, no potential Democratic "replacement nominee" polls near to President Biden against Trump--
almost all of them run about 10 percentage posts behind President Biden....

Replacing him is a political fantasy.

orange jar

(878 posts)
14. I agree. It is way too late.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:06 PM
Jun 2024

While I agree with the sentiment that Biden didn't do too well, it is absurd to call for a different presidential candidate. It is too late, and I just don't believe anyone currently available would have a stronger pull.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
16. It's too late at this point.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:08 PM
Jun 2024

But those discussions should have happened as soon as he was elected.

Diraven

(1,892 posts)
18. OMFG
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:08 PM
Jun 2024

Biden has a cold so he looked a little sick so we have to replace him because now he can't possibly win against someone who just proved he's pretty close to insane?

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
26. Yes campaign said he has a cold.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:21 AM
Jun 2024

Hope Trump gets it.

P.s. they said Biden did a covid test, not covid. Just a cold.

Vogon_Glory

(10,289 posts)
22. The calls for a replacement for Joe come from
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:31 PM
Jun 2024

Talking heads and corporate media types who want an effing horse raise. The only reason I’d support replacing Joe is if an anvil fell out of the sky and killed him.

The jabs about Joe’s stutter make me angry. I have a stutter, and I still have my marbles. The candidate whose health we need to watch is Donald John.

yellowdogintexas

(23,693 posts)
32. If the media would stop harping on it we would not be having these discussions, I think
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 01:24 AM
Jun 2024

The media hasn't stopped talking about the President's age since he was inaugurated. It is almost like propaganda.

Grins

(9,443 posts)
25. Let's not go there.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:18 AM
Jun 2024

No one is going to change the candidate(s.)
Primaries and caucuses are over and done. For both parties.

What both party’s have is what we are stuck with.

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
27. That's crazy talk, but Trump is terrified of Biden so consider the source.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:22 AM
Jun 2024

I'm not saying I'm not terrified of another Trump presidency, but c'mon. We know there are bad actors on the nets and in Russia, China, etc who want Trump in and they are working hard tonight, mark my words.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
29. Anyone peddling that here should be outright banned.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:36 AM
Jun 2024

Sorry but thats how I feel. If you are not 100% on board with the nominee you SHOULD NOT BE HERE AT ALL!

cjoki4

(42 posts)
31. Agreed
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:53 AM
Jun 2024

Stop this talk about replacing Biden - the best President of my lifetime!

Stop the panic. Neither won the night if looking at undecided panels, most are split.

Lets get back to "Ridin with Biden" and GOTV!

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
30. The very thought is something the plutocrats requested
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:37 AM
Jun 2024

And will give gratuity for after the election. See how that works?

Biden will be fine. He’s under a SHIT TON of pressure. tRump’s only pressure was whether to lie about porking a porn star or $35 insulin. He chose to lie about both of those and 3 dozen more. So, same old tRumpshit (pretty sure that should be a compound word at this point.)

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